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Not necessarily....an awful lot of the talent we recruit are kids that want to play in the SEC and UK is their best chance. ...think Ohio kids that want to be close enough to home that family can come see them .I get the reason why you shouldn’t leave the SEC. But if we were in the ACC we would be contending for conference championships a lot of the time. We talk about our program taking the next step, the next step if we were in the ACC would be consistently winning conference titles aka become the next Clemson. Would be fun
Precisely. We’d be back to recruiting in the 45-50 range which would put us mid pack ACC and it’s also just a matter of time until that conference is ripped apart.Not necessarily....an awful lot of the talent we recruit are kids that want to play in the SEC and UK is their best chance. ...think Ohio kids that want to be close enough to home that family can come see them .
Go to ACC and that pool dries up .....we go back to recruiting acc level kids and we may not be competitive .
This is rightGo to the ACC and in a few years we would have no conference.
How about we find a way to truly compete in our own conference?
But we really haven't competed since the 1950's. And now the SEC will be even tougher adding Oklahoma and Texas and the league going to a 9 game schedule probably after next year. I just think the gap is gonna widen further once all this happens.Go to the ACC and in a few years we would have no conference.
How about we find a way to truly compete in our own conference?
Will there be places that continue to have advantages? Yes. But as this super conference thing develops the advantages shrink some once you get past the truly elite and the value to how well you run your organization increases because all participants don’t have the same income and assets but they all have competitive level resources. The NIL won’t stay like it is right now and new rules will come into play. The new lawsuit in Oregon will probably force some adjustments even if the ncaa doesn’t introduce more formal rules but will take a few years to have some impact. The challenge for us is we need to be very organized in everything and in our coaching.So, i guess from reading all the replies, we’re just as well to suck it up and remain as one of the sec’s eternal little brothers. could be worse i guess.
Probably true. But the problem is our 'SEC level' recruits are still nowhere near competing in the SEC. And our recruiting would probably drop if we moved to the ACC but that league doesn't recruit nearly as well as the SEC so we would be on a more even level and a better chance to compete.If UK goes to the ACC they would start getting ACC level recruits. Many if not most of the better players we recruit or get through the portal are coming here to showcase their talents in the best conference in hopes of advancing their NFL aspirations.
I don’t think the gap widens but it will expose how well we really are doing things as we lose more of the formula for managing outcomes.But we really haven't competed since the 1950's. And now the SEC will be even tougher adding Oklahoma and Texas and the league going to a 9 game schedule probably after next year. I just think the gap is gonna widen further once all this happens.
Never gonna happen not even in a down year like this yearGo to the ACC and in a few years we would have no conference.
How about we find a way to truly compete in our own conference?
The playoffs will still take 1-2 teams from the ACC every year and we'd have a much easier time competing for one of those spots (see UL this year) than we will in the SEC.This is right
Any football not in sec or big10 ain’t going to be considered legit here in next five years. Best player will want to be in those two conferences
Mid pack in the ACC is still much easier to overcome vs being in the bottom 3 or 4 in the 16 team SEC. This is my point.Precisely. We’d be back to recruiting in the 45-50 range which would put us mid pack ACC and it’s also just a matter of time until that conference is ripped apart.
That's nice for the school but will the fans continue to support a team that will probably go 5-7 or 6-6 every year?I’ll take the SEC . It’s all about money and they payout more .
And, all that could very well be true, but if all that does happen it will be equally applied to sec teams and uk will remain on the same rung as now.Will there be places that continue to have advantages? Yes. But as this super conference thing develops the advantages shrink some once you get past the truly elite and the value to how well you run your organization increases because all participants don’t have the same income and assets but they all have competitive level resources. The NIL won’t stay like it is right now and new rules will come into play. The new lawsuit in Oregon will probably force some adjustments even if the ncaa doesn’t introduce more formal rules but will take a few years to have some impact. The challenge for us is we need to be very organized in everything and in our coaching.
THIS. And when it happens, UK would never get back in SEC. The B1G not going anywhere & if we was there, at least they have a lot more mediocre teams we could compete with.Go to the ACC and in a few years we would have no conference.
How about we find a way to truly compete in our own conference?
This... I don't even know why it's even a subject to discuss..... you would have to fail basic money math to be in favor of a move to the ACC..Go to the ACC and in a few years we would have no conference.
How about we find a way to truly compete in our own conference?
How does that make it better for uk fans?I’ll take the SEC . It’s all about money and they payout more .
Yeah, I'd hate to have some here as CFO of my business.This... I don't even know why it's even a subject to discuss..... you would have to fail basic money math to be in favor of a move to the ACC..
This. Who cares about the money, right? We've been told all year, "who cares how much money Stoops/Cal makes, it's not your money." Why do I care if UK makes a bunch of money. Hopefully they turn around and spend the majority of it on football but you know what? So are the other football powerhouses who are already ahead of us and most likely will be throughout future seasons.How does that make it better for uk fans?
damn hard head.. you do know your performance will drop with less money right? Give it a rest already.This. Who cares about the money, right? We've been told all year, "who cares how much money Stoops/Cal makes, it's not your money." Why do I care if UK makes a bunch of money. Hopefully they turn around and spend the majority of it on football but you know what? So are the other football powerhouses who are already ahead of us and most likely will be throughout future seasons.
I want to win. I want conference titles. I wanna go to the 12 team playoff. All of those are unlikely in the new look SEC.
Ok. Enjoy the Dukes Mayo Bowl in a good year, going forward.damn hard head.. you do know your performance will drop with less money right? Give it a rest already.