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Would you favor having a Sportsbook at Rupp?

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Idea is being taliked about nationally . Another way for colleges to raise revenue By getting a piece of the pie from sports betting on their games .

Then students can increase their student loans so they can bet at games . Money money money . That’s all that matters in higher education. That’s what it’s about. Squeeze every last dollar you can out of the fans .

Student athletes of course won’t bet . Their friends will carry bets for them . Only for them to win at first . But then someone will realize a safer bet is to simply shave points and still win the game . Nobody hurt right?
 
Irrelevant.
For some reason, the state legislature is beholden to the horse racing industry. Bets can only be placed in Kentucky through 7 horse tracks.

They have a lot of power for a niche industry. Only in Kentucky...
 
I know that there are multiple professional arenas/stadiums that have sports books. While I think all sports gambling should be legal, I think including it in the actual venues, especially if the teams get a cut, is a bad idea. If I remember correctly, the reason Las Vegas didn't use to have pro teams is that because it was illegal for their casinos to put lines on and take bets on teams located there. I remember you didn't used to be able to get a line (legally at least) on UNLV games. Now that it is legal in most states, I guess that idea is gone, but I don't think people making money off playing the games should have a hand in the fans betting on the games. Too much opportunity for corruption.
 
Seems like something that will snag a Kentucky player before long, and cause all these issues we're seeing with players getting caught gambling. Last thing we need is Jeff Goodman types spending extra time trying to find a Kentucky player who made bets.
 
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I went to the Sportsbook attached to Wrigley Field a few weeks ago, it was awesome.

I personally think it's a great idea. You'd be able to bet on college or pro games across the country, and it could be open 7 days/week for people to go to.

Just basically a sportsbar that you can bet in- no different from going to KSBar and placing bets on your DraftKings app, but with this, the university could get a cut of the revenue and it would drive even more people downtown.

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Gambling is a net negative for society.

I don't gamble, but you could also say the same for alcohol, and people are clamoring for that to be sold at Kentucky events.

If you don't like alcohol, you don't have to buy it. If you don't like gambling, don't participate.

But both things would make a ton of money for UK, which is why alcohol is finally being sold this upcoming year.
 
I don't gamble, but you could also say the same for alcohol, and people are clamoring for that to be sold at Kentucky events.

If you don't like alcohol, you don't have to buy it. If you don't like gambling, don't participate.

But both things would make a ton of money for UK, which is why alcohol is finally being sold this upcoming year.
Very solid point....I guess I need people to talk me into why gambling potentially impacts the game on the field/court...alcohol does not have that effect.
 
I don't gamble, but you could also say the same for alcohol, and people are clamoring for that to be sold at Kentucky events.

If you don't like alcohol, you don't have to buy it. If you don't like gambling, don't participate.

But both things would make a ton of money for UK, which is why alcohol is finally being sold this upcoming year.

I do and I will. Alcohol is also a net negative for society. Free choice is great but that also requires the decision maker be well informed. I get your point but I can’t be a cheerleader for it.
 
I don't gamble, but you could also say the same for alcohol, and people are clamoring for that to be sold at Kentucky events.

If you don't like alcohol, you don't have to buy it. If you don't like gambling, don't participate.

But both things would make a ton of money for UK, which is why alcohol is finally being sold this upcoming year.
So if they were to bring in a "ton of money", what would they lower the price of?
 
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So if they were to bring in a "ton of money", what would they lower the price of?

What do you mean? Sorry, I don't follow. If you're wondering if this would lead UK to lower ticket prices or something, that ain't happening either haha.

It's more of just- if people are going to gamble, might as well get a piece of the pie.

Same with alcohol, People were drinking at football games regardless (in the parking lots, sneaking in bottles, etc.)- so people were still drinking, Kentucky just didn't get any of the benefit/profit from it.

If they are going to drink anyways, might as well share in the profits. Same with gambling.
 
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Irrelevant.
For some reason, the state legislature is beholden to the horse racing industry. Bets can only be placed in Kentucky through 7 horse tracks.

They have a lot of power for a niche industry. Only in Kentucky...
That’s just like the first 2 weeks. After that, you can do it online like any other state.
 
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Idea is being taliked about nationally . Another way for colleges to raise revenue By getting a piece of the pie from sports betting on their games .

Then students can increase their student loans so they can bet at games . Money money money . That’s all that matters in higher education. That’s what it’s about. Squeeze every last dollar you can out of the fans .

Student athletes of course won’t bet . Their friends will carry bets for them . Only for them to win at first . But then someone will realize a safer bet is to simply shave points and still win the game . Nobody hurt right?
NO.
 
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Irrelevant.
For some reason, the state legislature is beholden to the horse racing industry. Bets can only be placed in Kentucky through 7 horse tracks.

They have a lot of power for a niche industry. Only in Kentucky...
We have a similar issue in Florida, with the beneficiary being the Tribe (Seminoles). They have a lot of power and have a kung fu grip on the gambling market in the state.
 
Idea is being taliked about nationally . Another way for colleges to raise revenue By getting a piece of the pie from sports betting on their games .

Then students can increase their student loans so they can bet at games . Money money money . That’s all that matters in higher education. That’s what it’s about. Squeeze every last dollar you can out of the fans .

Student athletes of course won’t bet . Their friends will carry bets for them . Only for them to win at first . But then someone will realize a safer bet is to simply shave points and still win the game . Nobody hurt right?
Hell no, so many issues would arise from that. You can already bet on your phone in most states. Colleges don’t need any other easy access for players to shave points or bet on games. Just not good.
 
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except on the market?
My grandad was a strong Baptist and a dairy farmer . He pointed out to me one day that he was the biggest gambler in the world .He gambled on the weather, crop and milk prices, diseases of his herd Etc.
Me , I gamble on the market which has been very good to me SO FAR .
 
Absolutely not. It will work its way into games, and no one should be okay with that. The University of Kentucky should make a strong statement to the media against this.
 
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I personally don't get the appeal of an on location Sportsbook... doing it on my phone is just so much easier.

Although I'm an introvert and likely not the targeted market lol
 
Since sports betting is not a UK thing and Rupp Arena is owned by the city, how does UK make money off this? They don’t make money on concerts there.
 
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I personally don't get the appeal of an on location Sportsbook... doing it on my phone is just so much easier.

Although I'm an introvert and likely not the targeted market lol
I have bet with a bookie for years. Sportsbooks mean nothing to me. When I've gone to Vegas, I've bet over the phone with my bookie. No reason to wait in line and pay up front, when I can just make a phone call, or now online, and pay later if I lose.
 
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I don't gamble, but you could also say the same for alcohol, and people are clamoring for that to be sold at Kentucky events.

If you don't like alcohol, you don't have to buy it. If you don't like gambling, don't participate.

But both things would make a ton of money for UK, which is why alcohol is finally being sold this upcoming year.

Lots of people smoke crack. Should we sponsor that and get a cut too? Prostitution? Where do you draw the line or do you just think that the things that people spend money on are inherently good and should be capitalized on?
 
Lots of people smoke crack. Should we sponsor that and get a cut too? Prostitution? Where do you draw the line or do you just think that the things that people spend money on are inherently good and should be capitalized on?

WTF? You just listed and tried comparing it to a bunch of stuff that is ILLEGAL. Gambling is a perfectly LEGAL activity- just because YOU don't personally agree with it does not mean you have the right to tell anyone they shouldn't do it.

What a dumb post that was.

I suppose if you didn't drink soda because you thought it was unhealthy and bad for people, you wouldn't want to see Kentucky sell that either? I mean sure it's legal and all but that doesn't mean we should be okay with it, right? Where do YOU draw the line?

Gambling is perfectly legal, it's a lot less harmful to society than alcohol and tobacco, so what are we talking about here?
 
WTF? You just listed and tried comparing it to a bunch of stuff that is ILLEGAL. Gambling is a perfectly LEGAL activity- just because YOU don't personally agree with it does not mean you have the right to tell anyone they shouldn't do it.

What a dumb post that was.

I suppose if you didn't drink soda because you thought it was unhealthy and bad for people, you wouldn't want to see Kentucky sell that either? I mean sure it's legal and all but that doesn't mean we should be okay with it, right? Where do YOU draw the line?

Gambling is perfectly legal, it's a lot less harmful to society than alcohol and tobacco, so what are we talking about here?
Gambling and drinking operate similiarly on the dopamine receptors. Some people can get a little hit of dopamine and be fine, others are triggered to need more and more for the same effect -- "I use to be a lightweight -- 2 beers and I would be on the floor, now it takes a 6-pack just to get buzzed"; that sort of thing.

Seeing someone pound beers at Rupp would be pretty easy to spot and managed. However, someone looking to get the same level of dopamine through placing a wager is harder to spot and the ever-increasing amounts of money to get the same rush could be economically catastrophic. As you mentioned there are plenty of online apps that are already available. People can already be in Rupp placing their bets at the game. What would the advantage of having a sports book there? What's the math?

Legal vs Illegal is not the same as Good-for-you vs Not-good-for-you. Go to Colorado and see a bunch of young, stoned homeless people sucking on a joint. Sorry to sound preachy -- I am a recovered (or recovering) alcholic. Starting is easy, quitting not so much -- no one says, "I think I'm going to get addicted to alchol, gambling, binge eating, smoking".
 
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WTF? You just listed and tried comparing it to a bunch of stuff that is ILLEGAL. Gambling is a perfectly LEGAL activity- just because YOU don't personally agree with it does not mean you have the right to tell anyone they shouldn't do it.

What a dumb post that was.

I suppose if you didn't drink soda because you thought it was unhealthy and bad for people, you wouldn't want to see Kentucky sell that either? I mean sure it's legal and all but that doesn't mean we should be okay with it, right? Where do YOU draw the line?

Gambling is perfectly legal, it's a lot less harmful to society than alcohol and tobacco, so what are we talking about here?

Gambling was illegal now it is not. Prostitution has been legal and now it is not. Legality and morality aren’t tied at the hip. Fricking slavery was legal here for gods sake. Same with cocaine and morphine. I was just questioning the way you seem to be fine with the school capitalizing on what was once illegal activity as long as there is money to be made from it. In my mind that is not a good enough justification.
 
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