Would we be better served bringing in 5th year guys....

[catrecruit]

To plug holes ?

Might prevent such drastic down years (2013) from occurring perhaps??.....Always having freshmen can be a difficult task year after year.....Cal's fade to gray bears that out

Discuss

 

[ukcatsfan2]

there is a need to have true veterans on teams with Freshman/Sophomores.

and it seems we have lots of Freshman/Sophomores Every year!!!

 

[AnarchoNeoLuddite]

I was thinking more along the lines of your regular old transfer...have them come in for a year, workout, learn this system and boom you got experience. ISU has made a living off of it, MSU and Izzo have a couple this year too.

 

[2Adulterers]

that's what SEXtino does because he cannot recruit..no thanks

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

Did Julius Mays help the Goodwin team?

 

[bigbluedon]

Would have loved to have had Damion Lee this year or the Thorne kid that went elsewhere. We could use his size now.

 

[catrecruit]

Did Julius Mays help the Goodwin team?

Big time! Shot 37% from 3 and was an 85% FT shooter

He was just on a team that had Harrow and Goodwin wipe out all his production....Nerlens getting hurt was the dagger too

 

[RJKentuckyBlue]

Would have loved to have had Damion Lee this year or the Thorne kid that went elsewhere. We could use his size now.

No doubt, Lee would be a huge help to this team.

 

[StubbornPenny]

I'd support it, especially in years where even the top talent is obviously down, like 2012-2013 and now.

 

[Primedfor9]

So which one of Monk, adebayo, Gabriel, jones, fox..should we boot off the team for the next Julius mays?

People here lose their sanity after a loss.

 

[StubbornPenny]

So which one of Monk, adebayo, Gabriel, jones, fox..should we boot off the team for the next Julius mays?

People here lose their sanity after a loss.

No one said that. OP said "to plug holes." It was pretty well known that the talent in this class wasn't the same caliber as previous or upcoming years. And, Cal did it before with Mays. We could have used an extra big and an extra shooter. Maybe Mulder was brought in to do that, who knows. I know there were a few older bigs out there that we could have used right now.

 

[Primedfor9]

I know what you mean but those guys aren't certainties either, we thought Mulder was going to be that guy for us this year and for whatever reason cal doesn't trust him out there, though he played last night. The top rate graduate seniors aren't going to come here with the type of freshmen we bring in.

 

[Smashcat]

So which one of Monk, adebayo, Gabriel, jones, fox..should we boot off the team for the next Julius mays?

People here lose their sanity after a loss.

Agree

 

[bluescat92]

To plug holes ?

Might prevent such drastic down years (2013) from occurring perhaps??.....Always having freshmen can be a difficult task year after year.....Cal's fade to gray bears that out

Discuss

There are a couple that play for Looserville you can go root for. Geez.....you post something like this after all the success Cal has brought us

Cal has taken two teams that lost nine ten games to the final four. He can do it with this team as well.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

No, because for whatever reason, Cal doesn't play them.

Not sure why he bothers with transfers and 5th year seniors at this point. At best they are practice bodies for the rest of the team.

 

[LouievileKat]

Just look at what Kansas is doing with 5th year guys. Perry Ellis is amazing.

 

[AnarchoNeoLuddite]

Dude, Cal has had one 5th year transfer and 2 JUCO players. Mays, if you recall started, Dodson started for a time but self destructed. Mulder hasnt been good enough, yet. Care to add some more insight?

 

[JB1370]

To plug holes ?

Might prevent such drastic down years (2013) from occurring perhaps??.....Always having freshmen can be a difficult task year after year.....Cal's fade to gray bears that out

Discuss

Such drastic down years like 2011 (Final Four), 2013 (Outlier, not consistent with Calipari era), or 2014 (NCAA Runner Up)? Yeah, things clearly need to be fixed around here...

 

[Kiimohawk]

Just look at what Kansas is doing with 5th year guys. Perry Ellis is amazing.

Perry is a 4th year guy. I know it seems like more. Traylor, Lucas and Mikelson are the guys who had a redshirt or transfer year.

 

[bluescat92]

Why do people not grasp the fact that Cal is the only coach that has to rebuild his team every year from scratch with freshman. Yes elite players but still freshmen

So when we go on the road and play against a senior junior laden experienced team and get beat people freak out.

95% of the other coaches have senior and juniors that have played together and are experienced.

If you don't enjoy what Coach Cal has done here then there are plenty of other teams to go root for that will full fill all the desires you have for UK except getting to the final four.

This team is going to get beat seven or eight times this year but that does not mean they are a bad team or Cal can't coach.

Once Cal learns all the pieces and how to put them together and the players learn how to handle hostile road games this team will make a run just like all he's teams.

 

[AnarchoNeoLuddite]

Perry is a 4th year guy. I know it seems like more. Traylor, Lucas and Mikelson are the guys who had a redshirt or transfer year.

Exactly and aside from Perry those other 3 are 21 feet of turd. Does the guy complaing want more of that?

 

[ukalum]

Why do people not grasp the fact that Cal is the only coach that has to rebuild his team every year from scratch with freshman. Yes elite players but still freshmen

So when we go on the road and play against a senior junior laden experienced team and get beat people freak out.

95% of the other coaches have senior and juniors that have played together and are experienced.

If you don't enjoy what Coach Cal has done here then there are plenty of other teams to go root for that will full fill all the desires you have for UK except getting to the final four.

This team is going to get beat seven or eight times this year but that does not mean they are a bad team or Cal can't coach.

Once Cal learns all the pieces and how to put them together and the players learn how to handle hostile road games this team will make a run just like all he's teams.

Sunshine pumper. Calipari does not have to rebuild from scratch every year. It's the way he chooses to do it. You don't get to complain that 95% of other coaches have juniors and seniors that have played together and are more experienced.

 

[3 fan]

Of course you guys assume these 5th year guys wait until May or June to commit.

Cal had a horrible spring and missed on a ton of recruits we usually get. Add that to the fact that it is appearing that this years freshman class was overrated and Skal being a complete bust has killed us.

Imagine if Murray had went to Oregon.....

 

[Poetax]

To plug holes ?

Might prevent such drastic down years (2013) from occurring perhaps??.....Always having freshmen can be a difficult task year after year.....Cal's fade to gray bears that out

Discuss

We have players who are not freshmen, Alex(Sr.), Lee(JR), Willis(JR), and Ulis(soph). Plus Mulder is a (JR). The problem is, when your freshmen class doesn't have that
Wall or MKG, it helps the freshmen out tremendously. Guys like Miller, Lamb, and Jones showed direction and experience in their extra years.

 

[mustnotsleepnow]

Dude, Cal has had one 5th year transfer and 2 JUCO players. Mays, if you recall started, Dodson started for a time but self destructed. Mulder hasnt been good enough, yet. Care to add some more insight?

Don't let facts get in the way of a good Cal bashing.

 

[bluescat92]

Sunshine pumper. Calipari does not have to rebuild from scratch every year. It's the way he chooses to do it. You don't get to complain that 95% of other coaches have juniors and seniors that have played together and are more experienced.

Well let's get Tubby and BCG kind of recruits back on the team to cheer on.

So you have not enjoyed any of his teams cause "he chooses to do it" the way he does.

Your an idiot. When his freshmen teams are talented enough to beat experienced teams your happy but when they are not and it takes awhile and you have to suffer thru seven or eight losses Cal sucks.

Knights team played just like this team losing eight road games. The Harrison's first team everyone tried to run them out of town. But both of those teams went to the final four.

They do not call it a season for no reason. Fool

 

[Poetax]

Sunshine pumper. Calipari does not have to rebuild from scratch every year. It's the way he chooses to do it. You don't get to complain that 95% of other coaches have juniors and seniors that have played together and are more experienced.

Those that complain now also complained that Tubby didn't recruit the elite top recruits. Why wouldn't you recruit the top athletes in the country? I'll take this kind of team once in a while, the 2011 team started like this team so there's a good chance that things fall in place.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

Did Julius Mays help the Goodwin team?

That's a bad example because Julius Mays was not very good. With that said......yes, he did help out that team. A lot!

 

[Poetax]

That's a bad example because Julius Mays was not very good. With that said......yes, he did help out that team. A lot!

But it's another example of not having either enough young or experienced leadership and when Noel went down the ship sank.

 

[AnarchoNeoLuddite]

There is a reason teams have 3 and 4 year players...and is they havent been that good and or are not NBA prospects. You really think Perry Ellis was planning on being in college 4 years, hail no. Same with Brice Johnson, dude dosent have a nba body but in the watered down college game he is a super stud. Also add in that self and roy are notorious for not playing FR

 

[anon_013cn8yrfncx2]

Well let's get Tubby and BCG kind of recruits back on the team to cheer on.

So you have not enjoyed any of his teams cause "he chooses to do it" the way he does.

Your an idiot. When his freshmen teams are talented enough to beat experienced teams your happy but when they are not and it takes awhile and you have to suffer thru seven or eight losses Cal sucks.

Knights team played just like this team losing eight road games. The Harrison's first team everyone tried to run them out of town. But both of those teams went to the final four.

They do not call it a season for no reason. Fool

Tubby had excellent recruits, just not nearly enough of them and, not unlike Cal, he liked athleticism over shooting to his detriment.

 

[bluescat92]

Tubby had excellent recruits, just not nearly enough of them and, not unlike Cal, he liked athleticism over shooting to his detriment.

Yes Tubby brought in some good players but not arguing that point.

The discussion is why Cal chooses to go after all one and dones instead of solid four year players. Could he achieve the same results.

We know that even with excellent recruits but not nearly enough of them Tubby did not get us to the final four except the one he won.

Before Cal was hired we all wanted the next coach to make UK relevant again by:
Not getting beat at home to crap teams (Cal is 109-4 at Rupp)
To handle our biggest rival Looserville (Cal is 8-1 vs UofLsucksville)
To become relevant on the national level and get to the final four (four final fours in six years and a championship)

Geez.....why all the hate.

Oh, right, haters never stop hating no matter what. Sucks to be a hater.

 

[RC_Texas]

Would have loved to have had Damion Lee this year or the Thorne kid that went elsewhere. We could use his size now.

Thorne blewout an ACL and was done before Game #2 of the season...

 

[RC_Texas]

Exactly and aside from Perry those other 3 are 21 feet of turd. Does the guy complaing want more of that?

All three have played a role on this year's team. Not exactly '21 feet of turd'...

 

[MysticSeer]

All three have played a role on this year's team. Not exactly '21 feet of turd'...

Regardless of what they are or are not, Lucas and Traylor were 3 star recruits never expected to be more than role players. Mickelson is in his 2nd season under Self and is a solid player. In fact, he was very good in the World Univ games.

 

[CUT-NETS]

6 Five stars (2 of which are juniors) isn't enough?

What does a supposed HOF coach need? 14 senior Kevin Durants?

Said this very thing about the 2013 team. Everyone says "our best player got hurt". Oh well darn that left us with only 4 five stars. Can't expect Cal to make it to the NCAA tournament with only 4 five stars.

Then everyone says "well Harrow and Goodwin weren't what we thought they were". Well, they were highly ranked coming out of high school, what happened?

 

[RC_Texas]

Regardless of what they are or are not, Lucas and Traylor were 3 star recruits never expected to be more than role players. Mickelson is in his 2nd season under Self and is a solid player. In fact, he was very good in the World Univ games.

When you look at the rotation of the 'fifth starter' in the OU game, that group had 20 points, 17 rebounds and 4 blocks. Every team needs those types of role players.

 

[AnarchoNeoLuddite]

Fantastic. Still turds.

 

[Poetax]

Said this very thing about the 2013 team. Everyone says "our best player got hurt". Oh well darn that left us with only 4 five stars. Can't expect Cal to make it to the NCAA tournament with only 4 five stars.

Then everyone says "well Harrow and Goodwin weren't what we thought they were". Well, they were highly ranked coming out of high school, what happened?

One couldn't take the pressure and the other played out of position. Crap happens.

 

[MysticSeer]

Guess what, fellas.....a couple 3 star recruits didn't turn out to be world beaters. Who woulda thunk it?