Would Quickley return for another year?
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Better chance of IQ coming back than landing Banchero.
Banchero is pretty much a lock for Washington. Yes, I know they suck but kids don't care about that. They want to serve their one season sentence and if they can go under the radar (so their stock doesn't drop), even better. Let's hope EJ gets good advice and comes back.
I’ve been hearing rumblings (or was it chatter?) that we are in great position with Banchero.
It was someone farting in a chair next to you, that’s the sound you heard my friend.
Not sure this is true. Because it’s UK we automatically assume strong play equates to 1st round draft pick. It could be at this point in time he’s just a really good college player whose game doesn’t necessarily mean 1st round pick.
Ideally he com s back and shows at 6-3 he can run the point which he would need to do at the next level.
Oh we're in it just like we are with every top kid. Every top kid has us in their top 3 (for marketing purposes) but there's no indication that we're in first place either.
When IQ starting scoring and leading the team i thought he might be gone but it would not surprise me if he came back. Does anyone know what he is majoring in ? What kind of grades he has ? I could see him coming back to get that degree.
A lot of things would contribute to him going or staying. What other CBB players leave early and the influence of foreign player entering the draft. I like most of you would love to see him come back.
A lot of things would contribute to him going or staying. What other CBB players leave early and the influence of foreign player entering the draft. I like most of you would love to see him come back.
jones had question marks of being a go-to scorer and creating a shot. we lived and died with it for most of ‘11 and it was mostly bad. the pressure to be “the guy” was taken away as everyone on the ‘12 team we’re essentially role players that could all play multiple positions. we were perfectly wound and his will to be the man was not needed like his efficiency. he had a higher ceiling than quickley but more to improve imo. what does quickley need to work on? he’s a combo guard without a great handle. could he improve it? yes. but we won’t need a distributor next year as much as his scoring, defense and leadership which is clearly his game.Well then you're absolutely right in a lot of ways.![[laughing]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/laugh.r191677.gif "Laughing [laughing]")
jones’ game became defense, back up center, rebounding, rim protection, help pushing everything in transition, and being a ready post anchor. he improved all these things in ‘12. he didn’t take as many threes as ‘11 and became a better post player. harrellson was twice the post player for us than jones in ‘11 who was still being featured as a stretch 4 who could drive in the high post. most of that, except the occasional three, essentially went away in ‘12.
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I view 2012 as the opposite: they were all potential go-to guys who didn't need to be because we were so good. We had three guys who could have easily been the best player on a national title contender.
My point about Jones was a simple one. He was the best returning player we've had, as in the guy with the most accomplished season prior to returning + the most NBA talent/upside for coming back.
So while it's possible IQ matches Jones in terms of production in the year prior, I don't think he has the potential upside or overall talent Jones had.
i understand and agree. the point is that it would mean he had more to improve because of that ceiling. each of those improvements means a possible question mark on how he’s to be used. that’s not an instant thing. there’s no mystery with quickley. i agree getting jones back scared the field more because of his potential, but quickley would be the impact he is already. it’s hard to put a price on what would probably be 18 ppg from a good defensive college 2 guard. jones could do more and was clearly the better prospect because of his size and versatility but quickley scoring is probably more valuable in college because it is now consistent. a given.
Extremely tough to get those Washington guys away from their home state. The Huskies coaches aren't historically very good but they have a tight grip on their AAU circle there. Isaiah Thomas, Terrance Ross, Jaden McDaniels all had us in their final two and then opted to stay home to a crappy team. Even Jones committed to them first before switching over to us in a very bizarre way.
Flipping this around to you, how do you know we are getting Banchero?
Did you read the article? The only way he returns and increases his draft standing is to run the show. That means the ball in his hands. He’s not coming back if it’s to be in the same role he is in now.
He needs to return to play PG and help facilitate Askew's adjustment to the college game. A junior Quickley would be a top 5-10 college player.
I've said it before, and I'm saying it again, it isn't the elite recruit we miss out on but the UK player who leaves us slightly too early. If Quickley stays he'll help expedite next season's growth and be one of college basketball's best performers.
Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to what we can accomplish this season heading into March. So long as guys don't get distracted by individual accomplishments, then the rest of college basketball has been put on notice. Go Cats!!!!
I've said it before, and I'm saying it again, it isn't the elite recruit we miss out on but the UK player who leaves us slightly too early. If Quickley stays he'll help expedite next season's growth and be one of college basketball's best performers.
Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to what we can accomplish this season heading into March. So long as guys don't get distracted by individual accomplishments, then the rest of college basketball has been put on notice. Go Cats!!!!
Both Corey Evans and Dan McDonald have him pegged for UK. Washington was a threat a year or so ago, but not anymore. Tennessee is a bigger threat than Washington.
I don't, but I didn't claim to know. I thought maybe you had some information or knew somebody close to the situation. I don't disagree with your logic at all. but I hope it's incorrect.
He's a point guard if he goes pro and he isn't getting drafted in 2020.
Why come back?
1. He isn't getting drafted this year...so he's not risking millions of dollars.
2. He can run the team as the point guard next year, it will be his team if he returns and he can show scouts and develop his ball handling skills. Nothing beats game reps and college gives you high pressure situations that empty G-League and Overseas gyms can't replicate.
3. It will raise his profile. As the star player on probably the preseason #1 team and a preseason AA and POY candidate...it will make him a lot more marketable.
4. He knows coming back it will be his team. Askew isn't going to be the dominant point on day 1 like some think...this will be IQ's team. He isn't being recruited over and can truly be a star.
5. A whole year to get stronger and faster. That's really what he needs to be that next level guy.
Look at the UConn and Villanova guards who came back as upperclassmen and raised their stock by strong tournament years.
Why come back?
1. He isn't getting drafted this year...so he's not risking millions of dollars.
2. He can run the team as the point guard next year, it will be his team if he returns and he can show scouts and develop his ball handling skills. Nothing beats game reps and college gives you high pressure situations that empty G-League and Overseas gyms can't replicate.
3. It will raise his profile. As the star player on probably the preseason #1 team and a preseason AA and POY candidate...it will make him a lot more marketable.
4. He knows coming back it will be his team. Askew isn't going to be the dominant point on day 1 like some think...this will be IQ's team. He isn't being recruited over and can truly be a star.
5. A whole year to get stronger and faster. That's really what he needs to be that next level guy.
Look at the UConn and Villanova guards who came back as upperclassmen and raised their stock by strong tournament years.
For Quickley to get drafted, Cal would need to give him the keys to the PG spot next year and let him be the face of a stacked team.
Has nothing to do with how good he is, he’s awesome. He’s just not gonna get drafted as a 6’3 SG in the NBA with little to no vertical leap.
Has nothing to do with how good he is, he’s awesome. He’s just not gonna get drafted as a 6’3 SG in the NBA with little to no vertical leap.
that’s a good one too. I went with Juan Dixon but bigger and more pg potential. Not the shooter he is yet but I’m comparing Sr All American Dixon
I don’t think he is a PG nor is best to play him there. His best trait right now is scoring. It’s better to let him do that and let the NBA question whether he can make the conversion than to let him put up mediocre numbers at point.
the article is telling you what NBA scouts are thinking. His stock would help tremendously if he came back because right now they don’t view him as draftable but next year if he shows he can play pg, he could go first round and maybe lotto
Immanuel is NOT a good passer and his handle needs work before he could ever play PG in the NBA. He is not as good with the ball in his hands unless he is driving from the wing or coming around a screen.
If he could come back and work hard on passing and running the offense, he could definitely improve his NBA potential. However, this years NBA Draft is going to be considerably weaker than next years. If we can reach the Final 4 and he continues to score at his recent clip, I wouldn't be surprised to see him declare.
If he could come back and work hard on passing and running the offense, he could definitely improve his NBA potential. However, this years NBA Draft is going to be considerably weaker than next years. If we can reach the Final 4 and he continues to score at his recent clip, I wouldn't be surprised to see him declare.
With IQ I wouldn’t be surprised either way. It’s usually easy to tell which players have one foot out the door their freshman year, or in his case after 2 years. Don’t have a valid reason for saying, but my gut has been telling me all year that he comes back. He just seems different to me for some reason, and by that I mean different for the better. Of course it’s just my opinion, like everyone else. Could be the red eye gravy and biscuits weighing on my gut.
I tend to agree but what makes you assume he is a lock to Washington? Sources etc? I haven’t seen much insinuating as such.
As many have said, IQ is different type young man than most we’ve had. Not that the others were bad, just that IQ is special in a good way. He’s extremely bright and surrounded with a tremendous group of family and friends. He could easily become a huge success in a few other fields besides basketball (and he certainly has the ability to be successful in the NBA as well). IQ is one player that I will be happy for regardless of whether he chooses to leave or come back. He represents UK as well as any player we’ve had in our program.
Quickley is a combo guard. There are plenty of players in the NBA who are shorter than him and don't play the point. He could play the point at Kentucky next year, but given Calipari's track record, he'll play Askew, a true point guard, next year and play Quickley off the ball. So, there is no value to Quickley to come back next year and play like he is this year with less shots given the recruits coming in and a stronger draft.
Well I certainly can understand why he would want to go to UDub, since they have done such a bangup job with the top recruits they signed last year. Below .500, and last in the Pac 12, going nowhere.
Personally, I think he comes back. He’s not projected anywhere in the draft as of now and even though he has been playing great right now, I don’t see him moving into any boards anytime soon. He can really do some damage next year running point or being the great scorer that he has been this year.
Seems like some people can’t comprehend or do not care what the scouts in the league think. It’s cómical bc it’s made perfectly clear that scouts in the nba think IQs path is as a pg.
There are plenty of opportunities to play professionally that does not include the NBA and make good money.
I actually believe as of right now quickley will be back. He is a smart kid I doubt he leaves if he is not even projected to get drafted.
