With the portal closing out, I bet Oscar and Reeves both return to Kentucky.
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That was pretty funny. Like 10 seconds before or after your post it was announced he was returning to MSU. Impeccable timing.
I doubt Cal knows much of anything regarding Oscar or Reeves return. The reason for this is that I suspect neither player knows what they will do yet. The portal may not okay much of a toke but NIL will. Nothing to do coaching. Everything to do with money.
You didn't see any mock draft with Oscar going #62 because there are only 60 picks over 2 rounds.
Where is your link to prove he doesn’t know much of anything regarding Oscar or Reeves. I haven’t seen any credible link where he even insinuates that.
We can only hope, because if not we are very thin and limited. Cal has a history of disappointing BBN the past 5-6 years though.
Well, I said I doubt he knows. But you may be right. Maybe Cal is an evil wizard that can see the future and read minds? That’s more likely that some of the crap I see about him.
That said, I will look for links that shows Cal knew things before Oscar and Reeves even knew their own plans. This would be a revelation.
Big Blue Nation is disappointed most years like over 300 other universities are disappointed. Only one team can win it all. Some on here thinks Kentucky should win the title every year.
Different kind of disappointment, we hate losing anytime but if we compete at a high level we can handle that. We haven’t been doing that the past 5 years outside 2020, but even then haven’t won the SEC or Tournament and no Tourney success.
Well it was Wheeler last year that wouldn’t let them bring in another guard and now it’s Bradshaw that won’t let him bring in another forward. Cal lets the inmates run his asylum!
No UK shouldn’t go 9-16, followed by a first round loss to 15 seeded Peacocks, and then to top it off with a second round loss to Kansas State. Those aren’t the standards that are set at UK!
Bucsrule8872, you and I always seem to see things eye to eye. Are there really that many grad options like everyone thinks? We just have to have a five on five with practice at this point in my opinion
I haven't really kept up with other teams.
Are there any big winners in the portal? Like a team that landed 3 top guys?
The portal is interesting to me because essentially every guy in it is not an NBA prospect, so you have a limited talent ceiling, and every guy in it is demanding a better deal than what he left, so you have to be able to offer a combination of minutes and NIL money for a guy that , at the moment at least, isn't good enough to go to the next level.
We got lucky with Oscar, but landing Oscar wasn't some big portal recruiting accomplishment, KY was his first choice and he wanted to be here before being steered to WV.
Outside of Oscar, we haven't had what I'd call any recruiting portal wins, certainly not enough to make any difference in the trajectory of the season.
I'm not sure sure why we expect that to change. The guys leaving their current situation don't want to compete for minutes or they have a "star player" price tag. I suspect we can't offer either with what it took to get the group of players we already have in place.
Cal certainly doesn't help his cause on multiple levels. Making it almost impossible for a player to break into the rotation mid season is one of them. Not having a significant number of players show noticeable improvement from one season to the next is another. Both of these issues kills continuity and leads to the mass migration of players away from our program.
To summarize this long post - I have little expectation that anything Cal does in regards to the portal will result in a transformation of Kentucky to a title contender.
Are there any big winners in the portal? Like a team that landed 3 top guys?
The portal is interesting to me because essentially every guy in it is not an NBA prospect, so you have a limited talent ceiling, and every guy in it is demanding a better deal than what he left, so you have to be able to offer a combination of minutes and NIL money for a guy that , at the moment at least, isn't good enough to go to the next level.
We got lucky with Oscar, but landing Oscar wasn't some big portal recruiting accomplishment, KY was his first choice and he wanted to be here before being steered to WV.
Outside of Oscar, we haven't had what I'd call any recruiting portal wins, certainly not enough to make any difference in the trajectory of the season.
I'm not sure sure why we expect that to change. The guys leaving their current situation don't want to compete for minutes or they have a "star player" price tag. I suspect we can't offer either with what it took to get the group of players we already have in place.
Cal certainly doesn't help his cause on multiple levels. Making it almost impossible for a player to break into the rotation mid season is one of them. Not having a significant number of players show noticeable improvement from one season to the next is another. Both of these issues kills continuity and leads to the mass migration of players away from our program.
To summarize this long post - I have little expectation that anything Cal does in regards to the portal will result in a transformation of Kentucky to a title contender.
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This doesn't account for other players currently in the NBA Draft that could still return, and more worth noting, and grad transfers - who don't have to be in the portal currently.
I have NO IDEA what Cal is doing, from our vantage point, great reason for concern and criticism. It's hard for me to believe he doesn't have some kind of "ace" up his sleeve, but it sure doesn't look good right now.
But I wouldn't be surprised at all for there to be a portal guy or more likely a grad transfer waiting to see what Oscar and Livingston ultimately decide...
Cal is stupid. He has admitted as such. He believes they are coming back, but will be burned by them and left with 7 players.
Come on, Cal is just ahead of the curve you guys with his tactic.
Much easier to recruit and get players to come when you’re the only team left with any roster spots.
Much easier to recruit and get players to come when you’re the only team left with any roster spots.
There is actually only 58 picks this year as a couple teams lost draft picks. I don’t see Oscar being in the top 58
I think (or hope) that once guys start making their draft decisions, several options will pop up in the form of grad transfers. They may not be on par with what we are losing, but they will fill in the blanks.
I could see a scenario where Reeves is the only one that comes back, and we add a transfer that pulled out of the draft.
Ideally, in that situation, a really good player like Kobe Brown comes here and provides leadership for us.
A guy like Brown plus Reeves added to the Freshmen, would give us a solid core.
I am just being patient. It’s all we can do. We have to trust Cal to fill out the roster. Really, what other choice do we have?
You saw rankings of draft eligible players that had Oscar ranked as the 62nd best player in the draft, not a mock draft.
untrue.
for UNC player James Michael McAdoo just signed for multi-year 7 figure and highest ever deal in Japan. He's a PF with no 3 point shooting ability. If he can make very good money (taxes paid by the team) in Asia , surely Tschiebwe can, as well (once his NBA door shuts).
With that said, I hope Tschiebwe returns to UK...it's good for the college game.
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