Will the SEC coaching ranks get raided this offseason?

[Son_Of_Saul]

How many of the league coaches will survive the hiring frenzy that is undoubtedly going to occur this offseason? I could even see the NBA come calling for a few coaches like Golden or even Oats.

Maybe a bigger question is this: do we want that to happen? Do we want to return to the days of a weaker SEC where UK can monopolize more of the recruiting market, particularly in the new NIL wild west?

I'm personally of the persuasion that a weaker SEC if better for Kentucky in the long run. That was certainly the case in the 1990s and even during Calipari's best seasons here.

Even if it's a three to four team show in the SEC, that will be fine. That's how it was when Donovan was elite at Florida, and Richardson at Arkansas. The rest of the conference can be cannon fodder.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Hope so.

 

[OliverSimmonstwinbrother]

I could see Barnes retiring.

Could also see Gates taking a bigger job out of conference if it's available.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

I could see Barnes retiring.

Could also see Gates taking a bigger job out of conference if it's available.

I don't think there's any way Beard stays at Ole Miss. He's too good.


If Indiana was smart, they'd go all-in on Todd Golden. That young fella is going to be the next elite coach.

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

How many of the league coaches will survive the hiring frenzy that is undoubtedly going to occur this offseason? I could even see the NBA come calling for a few coaches like Golden or even Oats.

Maybe a bigger question is this: do we want that to happen? Do we want to return to the days of a weaker SEC where UK can monopolize more of the recruiting market, particularly in the new NIL wild west?

I'm personally of the persuasion that a weaker SEC if better for Kentucky in the long run. That was certainly the case in the 1990s and even during Calipari's best seasons here.

Even if it's a three to four team show in the SEC, that will be fine. That's how it was when Donovan was elite at Florida, and Richardson at Arkansas. The rest of the conference can be cannon fodder.

Can’t see many of the elite coaches wanting to stay in the SEC. Hopefully there is a brain drain coming.

 

[WildcatfaninOhio]

I could see Barnes retiring.

Could also see Gates taking a bigger job out of conference if it's available.

Rick Barnes turns 71 this summer. I could definitely see him hanging up his coach’s whistle.

 

[legalbeagle123]

Rumor been out there for a while that Barnes is considering retirement.

Absent a call from the NBA, not sure why Golden or Oates would want to leave. The SEC is a money-making machine and they are both at programs with fantastic NIL support.

 

[CrimsonCats]

I doubt it. People need to get out of the mindset that historical prestige is driving the coaching market. It’s about money, not just for salary, but NIL to build a roster with in this era of the game. The SEC schools can compete with anyone on that front.

 

[OliverSimmonstwinbrother]

Hopefully we see some new blood of coaches break out in the tournament. The pool of big name coaches is the weakest I can remember, and it seems like 80% of those that are left are in the SEC.

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

Rumor been out there for a while that Barnes is considering retirement.

Absent a call from the NBA, not sure why Golden or Oates would want to leave. The SEC is a money-making machine and they are both at programs with fantastic NIL support.

For Golden, if he went to Indiana he could be in the conversation of face of CBB in a few years. It is a starving fanbase and a program that hasn’t been elite in over 30 years. But they have big NIL and still a massive brand in CBB. That would be the why there. I do think it would be hard to get Oates out of Alabama.

 

[Emarc]

They better come with really big bags if so. Really big

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

None of these ppl are going anywhere

 

[legalbeagle123]

For Golden, if he went to Indiana he could be in the conversation of face of CBB in a few years. It is a starving fanbase and a program that hasn’t been elite in over 30 years. But they have big NIL and still a massive brand in CBB. That would be the why there. I do think it would be hard to get Oates out of Alabama.

Indiana probably too dumb/incompetent to even reach out to him.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

More good coaches will replace them if so. The cupcake SEC isn't coming back.

 

[ukcatz12]

People need to get out of the mindset that historical prestige is driving the coaching market.

Been saying this for years. Blue blood status means nothing to coaches now, unless a coach has a prior tie to the program. When you can win titles at Virginia and Baylor and get to Final Fours at Texas Tech, Alabama, and SDSU, there's really zero reason to take the higher pressure blue blood jobs.

There's a reason UNC, Duke, and UK all have former players as coaches.

 

[wmk0002]

For Golden, if he went to Indiana he could be in the conversation of face of CBB in a few years. It is a starving fanbase and a program that hasn’t been elite in over 30 years. But they have big NIL and still a massive brand in CBB. That would be the why there. I do think it would be hard to get Oates out of Alabama.

If UNC had any brains they would go all in on Oates.

 

[Emarc]

Indiana probably too dumb/incompetent to even reach out to him.

I really dont know why hed leave Fl for Bloomington.

 

[EliteBlue]

Yep. Strong SEC benefits football, in a small selective playoff field (the more it expands the less it matters), with less data points to cross compare teams and make bowl/ranking selections etc.

Basketball has so many data points that it doesn’t matter for the top teams as long as you’re winning 25+ games pre NCAA tournament. It only matters for the situation we are in now (the 19-23 win teams heading into the tournament)…being in a strong league w good wins is the difference from bubble team to 3-4 seed.

But the reliance on metrics the last 10 years has proven that you can beat up on a trash league (Gonzaga…Duke this season) and be rewarded with skewed metrics and a 1 seed. The metrics can adapt for SOS to an extent but they all struggle with the extremes of SOS without hacking up the quality data in the 80-90% of the bell curve.

Gonzaga was a legit top 15 team most years but they rarely deserved a 1seed even tho metrics had them with gaudy efficiency numbers. Bc the 1 seed they’d often get a free pass to the S16 and then finally have to play a top 30 type team in the S16 and start earning that ranking. Win 1 game and they are in the E8 basically validating the ranking. I’d argue only their title game year w multiple NBA picks on roster did they truly deserve a 1 seed.

Point being…In basketball, conference strength matters for how many teams you get in the conference but if you’re a top 4 team in your league then it matters less. I’d rather the SEC take a step back to a good but not great conference, us be 1 or 2 in conference yearly and rack up 25+ wins a year heading into the tournament. Not be beat to death, have some “active bye” type games through the season, and still be a top 10 team in all the metrics

 

[BigSexyCat]

They will be sought after for sure. The NIL cap could come into play. Football schools will spend more money on football and basketball will be distant second.

 

[TucsonCat]

There's a reason UNC, Duke, and UK all have former players as coaches.

Two of out of 3 of those the reason is the former coach engineered who his replacement was and they didn't look elsewhere.

I could see Mike White or Byington at Vandy taking anything available. Iowa. Arizona State. NC State.

Coaches like money, but they also like fame. Especially in basketball, where there's a wide variety of fan support. I think indiana could make most SEC coaches think about it. Coeds aren't hot enough for Golden.

If Izzo left Michigan State, that might tempt someone 2nd tier like Gates.

 

[ukcatz12]

Two of out of 3 of those the reason is the former coach engineered who his replacement was and they didn't look elsewhere.

I think they chose that route for a reason though. They knew they weren’t going to make big splash with an established hire. And if that’s the case you’re rolling the dice either way, might as well roll it with someone to whom the program means something.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

I don't think there's any way Beard stays at Ole Miss. He's too good.


If Indiana was smart, they'd go all-in on Todd Golden. That young fella is going to be the next elite coach.

Who would leave Florida to go to Indiana?

You would constantly be in the shadow of Tom Crean.

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

Who would leave Florida to go to Indiana?

You would constantly be in the shadow of Tom Crean.

 

[ukcatz12]

Who would leave Florida to go to Indiana?

Have you been to Bloomington in January? It’s gorgeous.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Have you been to Bloomington in January? It’s gorgeous.

Yes

 

[TucsonCat]

I think they chose that route for a reason though. They knew they weren’t going to make big splash with an established hire. And if that’s the case you’re rolling the dice either way, might as well roll it with someone to whom the program means something.

No. North Carolina hasnt hired a non Dean Smith branch in 20 years. They always keep it in the family. By all accounts Davis was groomed to be replacement for 3 years. And you think Coach K wast demanding he be in charge of deciding his boy was heir apparent. He told Johnny Dawkins as much. Duke could've had Jon Wooden reincarnated and K was going to play king maker.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Those guys aren’t going to the NBA. That’s not the current NBA model. They hire assistants or if it’s a college guy he’s had extensive NBA experience prior to.

The poster who said Byington or White would jump is correct. The rest of these guys aren’t going anywhere. UNC isn’t canning Hubert. And Golden or Oates ain’t leaving what they have for effing Bloomington. It’s like why Nubs have hired crap after crap coach.

Btw…I’m not sure we want UGA to allow White to jump. They’re just like Bama. They are an Oates type hire from being giants. They have a crap ton of resources and Athens is awesome. White is just mid enough to keep them irrelevant. They need to keep him.

 

[Dirt Court King]

I could see Barnes retiring.

Could also see Gates taking a bigger job out of conference if it's available.

Florida State I bet

 

[bnewt]

For Golden, if he went to Indiana he could be in the conversation of face of CBB in a few years. It is a starving fanbase and a program that hasn’t been elite in over 30 years. But they have big NIL and still a massive brand in CBB. That would be the why there. I do think it would be hard to get Oates out of Alabama.

How does iu have such a big nil?

 

[WildcatNC]

Having an SEC head coaching job in a major sport with all the conference madness and uncertainty is better than most other jobs.

Big 10 will be fine too, so those jobs are pretty safe. Can't imagine anyone actually choosing to live in Indiana though.

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

How does iu have such a big nil?

Apparently they have famous donors. I’m not that familiar but other posters made it clear IU could be lethal with the right coach due to IU donors being ready to spend big

 

[jwphelps]

How many of the league coaches will survive the hiring frenzy that is undoubtedly going to occur this offseason? I could even see the NBA come calling for a few coaches like Golden or even Oats.

Maybe a bigger question is this: do we want that to happen? Do we want to return to the days of a weaker SEC where UK can monopolize more of the recruiting market, particularly in the new NIL wild west?

I'm personally of the persuasion that a weaker SEC if better for Kentucky in the long run. That was certainly the case in the 1990s and even during Calipari's best seasons here.

Even if it's a three to four team show in the SEC, that will be fine. That's how it was when Donovan was elite at Florida, and Richardson at Arkansas. The rest of the conference can be cannon fodder.

Only if some one is paying a lot more money, that seems to be the main lure for most coaches.

 

[Edgarman]

Rick Barnes turns 71 this summer. I could definitely see him hanging up his coach’s whistle.

I think if Barnes were to retire, the TN AD would go get Beard. I'm not sure we want that guy in Knoxville with their resources. I read something a week or two back that Barnes would retire when their point guard leaves. I believe he is a senior out of eligibility.

 

[TheAnonymous13]

I don't think there's any way Beard stays at Ole Miss. He's too good.


If Indiana was smart, they'd go all-in on Todd Golden. That young fella is going to be the next elite coach.

Golden will be at Florida until he goes to the nba. And that will happen.

 

[TheAnonymous13]

There will be some heavy attrition among coaching staffs, but I don’t think we will see many HCs move on.

 

[GermantownDawg]

Have you been to Bloomington in January? It’s gorgeous.

I actually have. LOL

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Florida State I bet

If anyone on the Mizzou staff goes to FSU, it’ll be CY and not Gates.

 

[Butters' Dad]

I think if Barnes were to retire, the TN AD would go get Beard. I'm not sure we want that guy in Knoxville with their resources. I read something a week or two back that Barnes would retire when their point guard leaves. I believe he is a senior out of eligibility.

I doubt Danny White would hire Chris Beard. He's never hired anyone with a checkered past before. We can argue that Nate Oats checkered his own past to an extent but that was long after Danny White hired him at Buffalo. I could be wrong but I don't see it. And as much as I hate to admit it, if Barnes retires that job is going to be very appealing. They have plenty of re$ources to spend on basketball.

 

[Eagles_Ball]

Apparently they have famous donors. I’m not that familiar but other posters made it clear IU could be lethal with the right coach due to IU donors being ready to spend big

Hope they hire Brownell. I’m afraid if they get McCollum they’ll be relevant again.

 

[ImTheVillageIdiot]

Hope they hire Brownell. I’m afraid if they get McCollum they’ll be relevant again.

At this moment, my priority is getting some of the absurd talent out of the SEC. I’m fine with whoever Indiana wants to hire out of our conference. I really have trouble fearing Indiana. Even if they got Nate Oates they’d somehow screw it up and remain irrelevant