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Who is the top 4?

Whose debate? My gosh, they are #6 in the rankings.

Remember Bama getting in a few years back with Georgia even though they didn't even play in the SEC championship game???
I do … there also wasn’t 3 undefeated teams that season. Every year is different
 
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FSU is NOT one of the 4 best teams. Winning your conference is only one of the criteria but it’s not the end all be all. The committee has to decide the 4 best. You know that FSU is not it.
It doesn’t matter. They’re in. End of story.
 
FSU is NOT one of the 4 best teams. Winning your conference is only one of the criteria but it’s not the end all be all. The committee has to decide the 4 best. You know that FSU is not it.
The committee says it is and they only go to other factors if teams are comparable
 
I do … there also wasn’t 3 undefeated teams that season. Every year is different
Just don't count them out. Lot of politics going on behind the scenes right now.

Money and power can make the impossible possible.
P. S. I HATE TOSU!!
 
They are in any world. They are undefeated power 5 team winning games with third string QBs and the best defense in college football. If an undefeated power 5 can’t get in then it’s just a popularity and tv ratings contest and the games don’t matter. If FSU isn’t in then the entire thing is a fraud process. I’m a sec guy but FSU deserves to be in… the regular season games and results have to matter or else whats the point of them all and that’s why I’d also pick Texas over bama.
Disagree . If FSU played in SEC no way would they be undefeated . Maybe the mistake in your analysis is calling the ACC a power five conference . It is not .
 
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Just don't count them out. Lot of politics going on behind the scenes right now.

Money and power can make the impossible possible.
P. S. I HATE TOSU!!
That’s why I said if FSU doesn’t get in it’s a pointless process …. Now for the 4th spot there are going to be at least two teams disappointed… no way around it
 
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It doesn’t matter if they are better, FSU is an undefeated power 5 conference champion with 5 top 25 wins and 8 wins over teams in bowl games. They are more deserving than any 1 loss team period …. The best team doesn’t always win and it shouldn’t be a rigged process based on a bias eye test opinionated process
Not to mention that FSU will get the second string QB back with almost a month to prepare. I bet their offense looks a lot better in 4 weeks. That resume you described certainly has earned the benefit of the doubt.
 
Disagree . If FSU played in SEC no way would they be undefeated . Maybe the mistake in your analysis is calling the ACC a power five conference . It is not .
There is no debate on that lol, your bias towards sec is the mistake here. Whether you agree or not the ACC is a power 5 conference … you’re just being irrational now
 
If it was the end all be all then why are we having this discussion? Why have they not already just announced it?
Because the season just ended and they had to see who the conference champs were and thus it will be announced tomorrow ……….
 
They are in any world. They are undefeated power 5 team winning games with third string QBs and the best defense in college football. If an undefeated power 5 can’t get in then it’s just a popularity and tv ratings contest and the games don’t matter. If FSU isn’t in then the entire thing is a fraud process. I’m a sec guy but FSU deserves to be in… the regular season games and results have to matter or else whats the point of them all and that’s why I’d also pick Texas over bama.
You do realize there is a clause in the playoff rules that allows the committee to pass over a team if they have lost player(s) to injuries that have significantly reduced their ability to compete or some mumbo jumbo to that effect.

They have an out to exclude FSU if they choose to do so per Heather Dinitch.
 
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Did we learn nothing from putting in teams like Cincy just because we felt they deserved a chance? Just pick the 4 teams that you think are the strongest. That ACC game was atrocious and the week before FSU barely escaped a 5 win Florida team.
 
You do realize there is a clause in the playoff rules that allows the committee to pass over a team if they have lost player(s) to injuries that have significantly reduced their ability to compete or some mubo jumbo to that effect.

They have an out to exclude FSU if they choose to do so per Heather Dinitch.
I do … FSU lost their QB and went 2-0 and have the best defense in football with their back returning … you can’t ignore that
 
Because the season just ended and they had to see who the conference champs were and thus it will be announced tomorrow ……….
But is it common knowledge that fsu is in? It is not. There is a debate. There is a debate because every knows they don’t belong in the top 4. They did not win the spot in the playoffs tonight. Now, they may get picked. But it’s not a foregone conclusion
 
Did we learn nothing from putting in teams like Cincy just because we felt they deserved a chance? Just pick the 4 teams that you think are the strongest. That ACC game was atrocious and the week before FSU barely escaped a 5 win Florida team.
If you think this FSU team is on the level of that cincy team then I can’t help you and there is no point in any of this lol
 
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I'll say it again, if bama or uga doesn't get in I'm not watching a second of the playoff.

You are handing a cheating michigan to title. F that.
 
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Did we learn nothing from putting in teams like Cincy just because we felt they deserved a chance? Just pick the 4 teams that you think are the strongest. That ACC game was atrocious and the week before FSU barely escaped a 5 win Florida team.
And the week before Bama neede a last second miricle to beat a weak Auburn team. Its about Ws,it aint a beauty contest
 
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But is it common knowledge that fsu is in? It is not. There is a debate. There is a debate because every knows they don’t belong in the top 4. They did not win the spot in the playoffs tonight. Now, they may get picked. But it’s not a foregone conclusion
I didn’t say it was … I said they should be in and no everyone does not know that either way it is decided
 
The college football world will soon look like March Madness where it's rare that the season's 'best' team wins the championship. Losing early in the season has always meant less than losing late. No sensible reason for that but it's always been that way.

If I'm a Georgia or Bama fan I can say, "Texas lost to a much inferior opponent than we did" and that's a fact. OU was no pushover but they're, at best, top 15.

Too bad they couldn't have 6 this year but then the argument would be 'why Georgia and not Ohio State?'

More teams will ensure most of the best teams get in but you'll still have arguments about whether a 10-2 Missouri should be in vs a 10-2 Oregon vs a 10-2 Clemson. And, on a given day, any of those teams could knock off the 'best' team. So, what does the regular season boil down to? Not much, unfortunately.

FWIW, I think FSU gets in and should. If they'd won 27-17 (the same 10 points margin), would anyone question their legitimacy? If I had to guess, playing their 2nd string QB allows them to score at least 7 more points tonight. He'll play in the playoffs and that defense is legit no matter who they're playing. Are they one of the four best right now - probably not. But Bama wasn't either when TX beat them. TX wasn't when OU beat them. GA wasn't tonight.

Should Georgia have been allowed to opt out of the SEC championship? The conference would have guaranteed one spot in the playoffs if they had. In retrospect, seems like it was the most logical thing to do. As it is now, both teams may miss the playoffs.
 
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I do … FSU lost their QB and went 2-0 and have the best defense in football with their back returning … you can’t ignore that
You also can't ignore how poorly they have played on offense since Travis went down.

They are just a shadow of the team that beat LSU. Barely beat a 5 win Florida team and put up a paltry 16 points on a UL team that the worst offense in the SEC hung 38 on just last week.

The committee is not going to turn a blind eye to those facts.

FSU is not competitive with the other top teams RIGHT NOW.
 
You also can't ignore how poorly they have played in offense since Travis went down.

They are just a shadow of the team that beat LSU. Barely beat a 5 win Florida team and put up a paltry 16 points on a UL team that the worst offense in the SEC hungv38 on just last week.

The committee is not going to turn a blind eye to those facts.

FSU is not competitive with the other top teams RIGHT NOW.
As I said 2-0 and a conference championship … that has to matter and to if it doesn’t than none of the games today should matter
 
How many times did Oklahoma get in for winning their conference only to get exposed? I think we will get a repeat of that with Florida state
 
As I said 2-0 and a conference championship … that has to matter and to if it doesn’t than none of the games today should matter
The only games that truly mattered were Washington/Oregon last night and Georgia/Bama today.
 
Also If winning with hurt players doesn’t matter then Texas shouldn’t be in this debate by that logic … they really struggled without their qB but they won and that’s all that matters. If anyone gets screwed here, I think it’s Texas because I can’t see the committee not putting an SEC team in
 
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Also If winning with hurt players doesn’t matter then Texas shouldn’t be in this debate by that logic … they really struggled without their qB but they won and that’s all that matters. If anyone gets screwed here, I think it’s Texas because I can’t see the committee not putting an SEC team in
We are about to find out real soon.

There are definitely going to be some unhappy fans this year. And more than one team's fans.
 
Also If winning with hurt players doesn’t matter then Texas shouldn’t be in this debate by that logic … they really struggled without their qB but they won and that’s all that matters. If anyone gets screwed here, I think it’s Texas because I can’t see the committee not putting an SEC team in
Yet Texas beat the SEC Champion on thier field by double digits,HOW do you ignore that
 
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