No concern about losing your job, just be average.
Where can you just be average and make millions?
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Us congress. Hell most of them are below average. Goes for the Senate too.
Actually they can be well below average after they get elected.
Coaches salaries are determined by demand. If UK is willing to pay CMS 9m a year, is he suppose to say no, that's too much give me 1m? When every team is looking for a coach every fan base says offer Coach X 15m and make him say no.
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So you think a coach with nearly a 50/50 record deserves 9 million dollars per year? And before you compare him to other UK coaches let’s take a look at other coaches across the country over the past few years that have come out of nowhere to totally surpass anything Stoops has done
Stoops deserves 15 million per year who cares what the record and outcome of the season is, right?
It doesn't matter what you or I think. You don't set the salary and you are not responsible for paying his salary, so why are you obsessed over what he makes. Neither of us knows what it takes, salary wise, to attract and keep a decent football coach at UK. Would it make you feel better if he made 20% less? Why?
Where do you think that money comes from? Paying someone that amount of money with the product is ridiculous. To be truthful salaries for sports in general is ridiculous. I can think of many professions that definitely deserve an increase in pay, ie First Responders.
Yeah but why would you compare him to other coaches when he is the UK coach?
Who cares what coaches do at other programs, at Kentucky no one except the second best coach of all time was able to muster up a winning record. Stoops has.
Football is the breadwinner for all UK athletics and stoops has done more for UK football then any other coach in school history.
Sorry you are personally out the $9 million a year for his contract, but if you have that I don’t feel that sorry for you.
Sorry that you settle for mediocrity. Let’s look at just a few schools that have either come from nowhere or have made a rebound surpassing UK in the past few years. TCU, Michigan, Tennessee, Utah, Penn State, Oregon State, Washington. Yes we have made it to several bowls but never have we been in the conference playoff conversation in the second half of the season.
Stoops is not average. He has taken us to places we’ve never been with consistency never before seen. Yes, there are more bowls, 3 cupcakes, etc. - doesn’t matter Stoops success at UK is unparalleled.
Now is there a lot to be criticized - Yes. Will UK take the next step with Stoops? I’m not sure. I’m not blind to the deficiencies and challenges.
However, given where the program started - he’s earned the right to be one of the best paid.
I’d argue what Stoops has done at UK is potentially more impressive than Saban at Bama or Kirby at Georgia.
So how long has Stoops been at UK? How long did it take TCUs new coach, Tennessee’s coach, Michigan ? Just to name a few. We have never been in the SEC playoff conversation in the second half of the season much less in the National playoff conversation. We are satisfied with mediocrity because we were worse than that before his arrival.
I dont think anyone off this board buys that argument for a second.
You are as delusional as I am settling.
Why mention TCU, Michigan, Tennessee, Utah and Penn state in the same sentence as Kentucky when it comes to expectations when each of those programs have exponentially more resources than Kentucky. Heck didn’t we even beat penn state in a bowl game recently?
Washington making the playoffs is kinda crazy, put UK’s 2018 team or 2021 team in the ACC or PAC 12 and they are in the playoffs. Heck in the ACC Kentucky would be a top 15 program year in and year out in football and barely make the tourney in basketball, my how the times have changed.
Kentucky competes in the SEC! Kentucky sucks historically and no one every expected to be disappointed in a music city bowl, but here we are. Alabama needs fans if you want to be a powerhouse overnight. Kentucky is better now than that have ever been, I think I’m ok with that as long as they keep trying to move forward, and firing the worst offensive coordinator in division one shows that maybe they are.
Oregon state? What have they done that stoops hasn’t done in a conference much much more difficult?
You are mad at a guy’s salary who has done something that no one has ever done at this school?
I imagine you are also incredibly pissed you have to personally pay Cal’s salary as well, because he has done something 4 other coaches have done, he should be making about 2-3 million I suppose.
Are you really comparing the difficulty of winning at Michigan and Tennessee to UK.
Plus - let’s not pretend that TN won the SEC. They still have a ways to go and must show that offense will work against top teams year in and out.
TCU - hats off to Dykes - he got lucky to get in playoffs to begin with and should of played UGA not Michigan. Again - winning B12 isn’t winning the SEC not even close - terrible comparison.
Terrible comparison? TCU just beat Michigan. And why is it easier to win at Tennessee or Michigan when just a few years ago they were mediocre at best also.
Tennessee spanked Clemson yesterday.
If you don’t know why it’s easier to win at Michigan or Tenn than it is Kentucky than you are just arguing because you like arguing or you are wildly out of touch with reality.
Especially in the NIL days, why don’t the reds win the World Series every season?
He has been here over ten years, when do we take that next step. You say that we are better than we have ever been? 7-6 record with a shut out loss to Iowa?
While you are at it look at our wins and losses this year. We lost to Vandy and South Carolina.
Penn State, why yes we did when they were at their lowest in decades, guess where they are now compared to UK
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So I should agree with you and settle for mediocre teams from now on at UK. No chance we can do better because of NIL, resources. I suppose that argument holds water in basketball as well?
We should settle for losses at Vandy, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee when they were having down years.
Penn state has and always will be ahead of Kentucky in our lifetimes historically.
7-6 this year with the worst offensive coordinator in program history.
Bringing back the guy who went 10-3 with a less potent offense last season if the o line blocks anyone.
Would 10-3 be acceptable to you?
You cited Oregon state as something we should aspire to, they won 10 games this year. Their conference champion couldn’t even beat Florida, their other top team lost 49-3 to Georgia.
The South Carolina loss was embarrassing and we lost it in the first play of the game thanks to the worst coordinator in school history, they also beat Clemson and Tennessee this year, Dabo and huepel on your hot seat?
The Vanderbilt game was an absolute embarrassment, one Game a year Kentucky players just show up and think the game is ours because they are the better team. If you want to complain about that I fully agree.
I just don’t understand how you think Kentucky isn’t lucky to have stoops.
I must say I do agree with your main premise, $9 million is way too much for stoops, but what is he supposed to do, turn down money?
Mitch is an idiot, if I could go to my boss and tell him someone else wants me, better give me 20% more or I’m gone, and he was dumb enough to do it, I would too, I imagine you would do the same.
The gripe should be with Mitch.
NIL for basketball is a whole different ballgame. Our basketball boosters are like those big time football boosters, whoever coaches at Kentucky in basketball for the rest of the NIL era will have a built in advantage that only a handful of programs possess.
In football we probably rank 12-14 in our own conference in NIL opportunities. I don’t know why you don’t understand this.
And I would have been happy with a change in basketball the day after the Wisconsin game.
I don’t know what mediocre is to you tbh. We have had two 10 win seasons in the last 5 years. How many did they have before that?
Mediocre is better than 2-10. I suppose we will have to wait and see how the next few years go with NIL, high school recruiting and that to see what Mediocre is at Kentucky football.
At what point in your life have fans been dissapointed in a music city bowl? I think that’s a question I have for you. Not a single fan is happy about how this season went, and how many times could a Kentucky fan say that after a bowl season in our lifetime?
You do realize the university doesn’t pay but a fraction of his salary? I think UK pays somewhere around $400,000 of his salary. The rest is paid by third parties for coaches shows, appearances, etc. Again, why does it bother you what those parties are willing to pay?
Go argue with your fellow 3rd graders and leave the logic to others. We don't need your fantastic fallacies here.
Yeah, & none of it will come from you, ya poor
Always adorable watching basketball onlys who have a miserable program they don't want to talk about wander into the Liar to trash football.
Maybe we should start 6 more threads saying this?
Should I put up a poll to decide?
Really?
Ok, stoops isn’t perfect
He’s the best coach UK has ever had and wants to be here
Should I put up a poll to decide?
Really?
Ok, stoops isn’t perfect
He’s the best coach UK has ever had and wants to be here
*wants to be a big time program*
*doesn't like the part where you do all things that build big time programs for the future*
When Stoops leaves it will be an attractive job bc they know the school will compensate...difficult to understand?
*doesn't like the part where you do all things that build big time programs for the future*
When Stoops leaves it will be an attractive job bc they know the school will compensate...difficult to understand?
Anyone not appreciate of what Stoops has done at Kentucky simply will never be satisfied.
Right?! If they can't be negative about football, what else will they do? It's funny how the bowl games were meaningless to the basketball fans and none of the Negative Nancy's wanted to talk about them 3 days ago, but mow that we lost a game none of them cared about, they've found their voices"... Never fails.
Bottom line is they're still ragging about Missou and can't say a word about their mediocre basketball team. Cal could make a fortune selling them Cal-mpons
Seems like there are two types of fans these days, those that appreciate stoops and want him to make the steps necessary to try and make a playoff sometime, and those who expect us to be Alabama or they are mad.
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1. Stoops was fine at 6.8M contract he signed last year.......
2. He in no way deserved the 8.6M contract he got this year
3. Mitch Barnhardt is a legit problem as AD...he hands out some of lowest demanding contracts you can imagine. Stoops is fine at UK but in no way deserves that kind of salary thru 2030....truly an idiotic extension and apparently nobody at UK holds him accountable.
2. He in no way deserved the 8.6M contract he got this year
3. Mitch Barnhardt is a legit problem as AD...he hands out some of lowest demanding contracts you can imagine. Stoops is fine at UK but in no way deserves that kind of salary thru 2030....truly an idiotic extension and apparently nobody at UK holds him accountable.
You have a LOSER mentality. Winning schools don’t tolerate mediocrity and losers, ie UK Basketball during Gillespie’s two years and somewhat with Joker. Unfortunately many in the fan base have learned to accept that in the past with football, thinking it can’t be changed. Basketball has recently started down that same road.
Lol If you think only $400,000 of his salary comes from UK.
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I almost didn’t comment cause this is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read but couldn’t help myself. You must be on some good drugs. Comparing Stoops to arguably the greatest football coach of all time at any level.. bahaha come on man
This year was looked at as possibly that next step in the football program. That changed
to mediocrity by mid season.
Sure he has taken us to several bowls but not one of those years have we been in the SEC East playoff picture, not one.
NIL has only become part of the equation this year. It has absolutely played no part in CMS win/loss record during his tenure.
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