Lots of really, REALLY fast sub 240 lbs guys in the NFL. Come on man. I’m talking WRs and RBs here. Slot guys. The fastest of the fast, like I said. I’m not talking linebackers here.
Wheeler vs Other Cal Guards
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I have a lot of love and respect for Andrew Harrison. Tyler Ulis was the best PG in America his sophomore year. Andrew was not that level.
Sophomore Ulis played at a level Harrison only dreamed of. That dude was nails with only Murray around him.
None of the guys on that list are anywhere near 240 lbs. Instead, they’re all lightweights by NFL standards. In fact, I don’t think there has ever been a 240 pounder who’s run under 4.3 in history, so I don’t know what this comment is based on.
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Even the fact he skipped tier 5? Just giving the OP some crap lol. He did well in his post
Numbers weren't cross referenced my bad. But I also pointed out I probably got helped, another was a favorite and the last actually probably ran that which is why he stopped basketball and just ran track. None of us came close to passing 180 at all. I was closest and way under it.
I was probably a 4.7something. I didn't clarify originally that the trip would've helped so I see why people would think I implied I could've done better when I meant the opposite.
But dude was ridiculously lean and way better at track than at basketball. I suspect Wheeler is 4.4 range but I'm not calling him a liar. That's all.
Yep, I remember Kansas making a little run at the end of the championship game and Teague hit a HUGE jumper to stop the bleeding and right the ship. Teague is tier 2, at worst.
I know a lot of people want to move Knight and Fox to tier one. I put them just behind, however, because Wall and Ulis were consensus first team All-Americans. Knight and Fox, while good, def didn’t garner the same national praise.
I’d say all of them are in the top 3 tiers except Harrow and Askew. Wheeler is off to a great start he can be right there if he remains consistent. His vision is already a tier 1 in my view. Hard to see that part of his game getting worse unless he goes blind.
Of all of them SGA was my favorite. There were times he carried that team. If he had more talent around him I believe more people would talk about him as tier 1.
Yes PJ was there but he was good not great as a freshman
Same for Knox (should have came back for 2 more years)
Hami was absolutely terrible at times
Yes PJ was there but he was good not great as a freshman
Same for Knox (should have came back for 2 more years)
Hami was absolutely terrible at times
I really don't care how people want to rate Wheeler. He is currently our point guard and is getting better each game. All I care about is winning and I will leave the rest to all the pundits.
Tier1:
Wall, Ulis, Wheeler
Tier2:
Fox,Knight
Tier 3:
SGA, Harrison, Teague
Tier 4:
Hagans
Tier 5:
Askew
Tier 6:
Harrow
Right now, Wheeler is on an All-American pace. If he keeps this up, he's tier 1. I think there's a very reasonable argument for Fox to be Tier 1. I won't tell you that's wrong. But if Wheeler finishes tier 1, that's 4 guys in tier 1. I think the easy/lazy approach is to say tier 1 is 1st team All-Americans.
Tier 2 is star guys, not 1st team AA
Tier 3 is really good, not the best player on the team.
Tier 4 is solid, good at times, frustrating at times
Tier 5 and 6 didn't work out--I separate them because Harrow was reportedly bringing the entire group down.
Wall, Ulis, Wheeler
Tier2:
Fox,Knight
Tier 3:
SGA, Harrison, Teague
Tier 4:
Hagans
Tier 5:
Askew
Tier 6:
Harrow
Right now, Wheeler is on an All-American pace. If he keeps this up, he's tier 1. I think there's a very reasonable argument for Fox to be Tier 1. I won't tell you that's wrong. But if Wheeler finishes tier 1, that's 4 guys in tier 1. I think the easy/lazy approach is to say tier 1 is 1st team All-Americans.
Tier 2 is star guys, not 1st team AA
Tier 3 is really good, not the best player on the team.
Tier 4 is solid, good at times, frustrating at times
Tier 5 and 6 didn't work out--I separate them because Harrow was reportedly bringing the entire group down.
