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What conspiracy theory would you like to know the real answer to?

There a way too many conspiracies to list but just a few of the famous ones off the top of my head.


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The “government is too big to keep a secret” line is one of those things that sounds like common sense, but history shows that not to be the case. There are so many ways for those in the know to conceal what is really going on even from the other people involved.

In fact, dysfunctional bureaucracy is a perfect cover for so much stuff. Some lower level agent gets told “hey, ignore this thing.” Then they do and now they’re partially responsible for allowing a terrorist attack. Complain to the media? You have no paper trail and your boss is saying he never told you to do X. At worst it’s going to be reported on by the media as another instance of bloated government hampering our security efforts. It may even get a new piece of legislation passed to make it even easier to spy on people! Two birds, one stone.

There’s also media saturation. Look at the “Epstein didn’t kill himself” meme. Just allow the obvious to be said so many times that it loses all meaning. Jeffrey Epstein was clearly assassinated (likely by his Mossad handlers) to prevent his blackmail from going public, thus losing its effectiveness in controlling the blackmailed individuals. But instead of that causing some serious investigation or uprising, it’s a funny internet joke. Someone could come out tomorrow with evidence that he was killed and 90% of the population would just say, “lol Didn’t kill himself told ya!! lol”
 
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That one is easy. Micahel Jeffery Jordan.


''The ceiling is the roof''.


Anyone else remember the vegas insider on ESPN in 2015? He was starting to say Vegas would lose a lot of money if UK went 40-0 ESPN cut his feed.
I remember it and told my wife that very second that we were not going to win it all.
 
I want to know who paid John “Roofaree “ Higgins off for his calls in our Elite Eight game with UNCheats.
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I went back to add if the Russians actually found Hitler's body or was it a body double and Hitler escaped to South America?
 
What I have learned on this thread is that at least some people will literally believe anything
I recently read a book called Off the Edge: Flat Earthers, Conspiracy Culture and Why People Will Believe Anything by Kelly Weill. It started slow but got rolling after about 70 pages and was an entertaining read. Basically, these nut jobs have been around for centuries, but the internet and social media brought them out from under their rocks to network with each other.

During COVID, I was cleaning out my yard barn back in TN and put some things for sale on Marketplace. A lady from my old Virginia hometown about 45 minutes away wanted most of it, so I met her at the TN welcome center off of I-26. She was 3 years older than me, and I vaguely remembered her from high school, but we knew a lot of the same people and her brother in-law was one of my friends in high school. We were having a really nice conversation, then she started talking about her younger brother, who she said was found dead by a hunter down a rocky embankment up in the mountains. Her brother (probably in his late 30s) was a small time drug dealer, career petty criminal and in general. The cops ruled his death as accidental, but her family thought otherwise because he had no reason to be up there. She said she thought it was a conspiracy. In my mind, I was thinking that realistically, the police didn't pursue it because what most likely happened is that he was partying with some people and overdosed, sending them into a panic and dumping his body up there. Or, maybe he got into an argument over drugs and someone beat him to death and dumped the body. I told her that it's a small town police force and the county has limited resources as well, and since there was no evidence of gunshot or stab wounds, they let it go. The police probably saw him as one less problem for them to deal with, but I wouldn't call it a conspiracy.

Then....she went ALL IN talking about COVID and who was responsible and what the government was trying to do to us, and at that point I told her I needed to get going because I had someone coming to look at some more stuff. I left feeling sad because we were having such a nice conversation before she went off the rails with that.
 
I wanna know who killed epstein
Well the list of organizations that can successfully pull off a hit in a US federal prison and avoid anyone (including the guards who were clearly in on it) being convicted is not very long. Use your own imagination.
 
I recently read a book called Off the Edge: Flat Earthers, Conspiracy Culture and Why People Will Believe Anything by Kelly Weill. It started slow but got rolling after about 70 pages and was an entertaining read. Basically, these nut jobs have been around for centuries, but the internet and social media brought them out from under their rocks to network with each other.

During COVID, I was cleaning out my yard barn back in TN and put some things for sale on Marketplace. A lady from my old Virginia hometown about 45 minutes away wanted most of it, so I met her at the TN welcome center off of I-26. She was 3 years older than me, and I vaguely remembered her from high school, but we knew a lot of the same people and her brother in-law was one of my friends in high school. We were having a really nice conversation, then she started talking about her younger brother, who she said was found dead by a hunter down a rocky embankment up in the mountains. Her brother (probably in his late 30s) was a small time drug dealer, career petty criminal and in general. The cops ruled his death as accidental, but her family thought otherwise because he had no reason to be up there. She said she thought it was a conspiracy. In my mind, I was thinking that realistically, the police didn't pursue it because what most likely happened is that he was partying with some people and overdosed, sending them into a panic and dumping his body up there. Or, maybe he got into an argument over drugs and someone beat him to death and dumped the body. I told her that it's a small town police force and the county has limited resources as well, and since there was no evidence of gunshot or stab wounds, they let it go. The police probably saw him as one less problem for them to deal with, but I wouldn't call it a conspiracy.

Then....she went ALL IN talking about COVID and who was responsible and what the government was trying to do to us, and at that point I told her I needed to get going because I had someone coming to look at some more stuff. I left feeling sad because we were having such a nice conversation before she went off the rails with that.
Good point. There was literally nothing at all strange about COVID or anything surrounding it.

I’m not trying to litigate it all over again, but saying that COVID wasn’t on the up and up and had other purposes isn’t even really a conspiracy theory.*


*Unless she was going off about microchips or snake venom or some other such nonsense
 
Good point. There was literally nothing at all strange about COVID or anything surrounding it.

I’m not trying to litigate it all over again, but saying that COVID wasn’t on the up and up and had other purposes isn’t even really a conspiracy theory.*


*Unless she was going off about microchips or snake venom or some other such nonsense
She was the US and Chinese governments were conspiring to reduce the earth's population and there were railroad tank cars with it all across the country that were releasing it into the air type of off the rails/crazy.
 
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There was a world sporting Olympic style games that happened in the fall of 2019. In Wuhan. Athletes from countries around the world. Was said many of the athletes developed some pretty bad colds upper respiratory stuff. A few months before anyone mention covid. Then these athletes returned home to their countries apparently carrying a virus. They started spreading covid months before anyone knew.

I may have butchered the details here but I did read this story several yrs ago.
 
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There was a world sporting Olympic style games that happened in the fall of 2019. In Wuhan. Athletes from countries around the world. Was said many of the athletes developed some pretty bad colds upper respiratory stuff. A few months before anyone mention covid. Then these athletes returned home to their countries apparently carrying a virus. They started spreading covid months before anyone knew.

I may have butchered the details here but I did read this story several yrs ago.
Everybody who got a cold circa Christmas 2019 thinks they were patient 0 of Covid.
 
Here's all I'll say about not landing on the moon. I believe Neil Armstrong stepped foot on the moon when they said he did. But if it meant the difference between beating the Russians to the moon or not, they would have faked it if they thought they couldn't do it.
 
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Here's all I'll say about not landing on the moon. I believe Neil Armstrong stepped foot on the moon when they said he did. But if it meant the difference between beating the Russians to the moon or not, they would have faked it if they thought they couldn't do it.
I have posted this before. I was stationed in Turkey when we landed on the moon. There was a worlds fair type thing going on in Izmir and our exhibit was an outdoor movie theater showing the moon landing. A major flu epidemic hit in the mountains and lots of people died. We were blamed for stirring up germs which came down and landed on them, causing the epidemic.
 
I worked for the NSA and had the highest security clearance anyone can get. The answers:


No

No

No

Oswald

Yes
I had a buddy who worked for the nsa. He never talked about work until he got diagnosed with cancer and he showed up to the bar one night with a bunch of pictures of him in Russia in the 80's. He apparently was in Russia on a Lithuanian/?? passport and was taking pictures of any military stuff he could see. I met him because he served with HS buddy, and he had rejoined the military after he left the nsa to be a translator in Afghanistan. Dude spoke 3 languages including Pashtun so he served until just months before the cancer got too bad.

He didn't think Oswald acted alone. I'm taking his opinion.
 
There was a world sporting Olympic style games that happened in the fall of 2019. In Wuhan. Athletes from countries around the world. Was said many of the athletes developed some pretty bad colds upper respiratory stuff. A few months before anyone mention covid. Then these athletes returned home to their countries apparently carrying a virus. They started spreading covid months before anyone knew.

I may have butchered the details here but I did read this story several yrs ago.


 
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The modern day one that went Poof in 30 seconds was the Las Vegas Concert Shooter. Nothing about that made sense whatsoever and it just disappeared from the world right away.

It still angers me


Agree that is a very strange case. He bought multiple high capacity rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition, took trips to other cities scouting out possible locations for mass shootings, and then afterwards, they looked at his computer, interviewed his live in GF who established she had no idea he was planning it, and still came up with nothing.

Dude was a complete cipher, just decided to kill dozens of people one day and never left a clue as to why.
 
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Agree that is a very strange case. He bought multiple high capacity rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition, took trips to other cities scouting out possible locations for mass shootings, and then afterwards, they looked at his computer, interviewed his live in GF who established she had no idea he was planning it, and still came up with nothing.

Dude was a complete cipher, just decided to kill dozens of people one day and never left a clue as to why.
There were Saudi princes or billionaires staying in that same hotel. Some say his actions were a distraction for something else?
 
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Agree that is a very strange case. He bought multiple high capacity rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition, took trips to other cities scouting out possible locations for mass shootings, and then afterwards, they looked at his computer, interviewed his live in GF who established she had no idea he was planning it, and still came up with nothing.

Dude was a complete cipher, just decided to kill dozens of people one day and never left a clue as to why.
IIRC, I read that he lost a metric shit ton of his money gambling. Could be he blamed Vegas. I also remember how the hotel bell hops helped bring his "luggage" up to the rooms he had rented. That many guns and that much ammo had to be heavy. Didn't those dudes think that was even a bit odd? On a side note, one of the secretaries at work and her husband checked into the hotel that evening. He wanted to go to the concert, but she had a bad headache and wanted to lay down for a couple of hours after taking some Tylenol. Instead of going out to the concert, he went to the casino. Talk about dodging a bullet...
 
IIRC, I read that he lost a metric shit ton of his money gambling. Could be he blamed Vegas. I also remember how the hotel bell hops helped bring his "luggage" up to the rooms he had rented. That many guns and that much ammo had to be heavy. Didn't those dudes think that was even a bit odd?
No. I’ve worked in hotels. Having guests use freight elevators to bring larger packages to a room is normal. Used to do it literally every day.
 
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  1. If anything to me makes the moon landing a conspiracy, it's the fact that they could take off from the moon and return to Earth without any practice. Maybe it's just super easy in lower gravity and no atmosphere, but this was the first time anybody had ever tried it - with all the cards on the table - and they nailed it. Every other part of that had been practiced without people. Taking off from Earth, landing on the moon, etc. But not taking off from the moon. I just feel that's underestimated part of the entire thing.
  2. The Vegas shooter doesn't seem like a conspiracy theory. Dude was evil - yet very smart. Moving stuff up to the room would be easy over several days. As the poster above stated, a lot of odd sounding things go on in Vegas that are normal. Tons of conventions where people are showing stuff and therefore you'd need to move heavy things to your room.
 
There's only one for me:

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I love this one because the kid went a long time without breaking character. There’s a video of him arguing with someone who said it’s impossible because their batteries would die. He answered that that’s why you see them sitting on power lines, they’re recharging! Absolutely one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen.
 
Aliens.

I have absolutly no doubt we're not alone, none whatsoever. If for no OTHER reason, the sheer number of planets that COULD harbor life as we know it has to be in the billions, at least, and I think that's just mainly due to the fact that we have no idea how large the universe truly is.
Life is an odd thing. I think the universe is alive. But advanced, multi-cellular life demands so much to go right. Orbits of other planets. For instance, Earth is protected from space debris because of the gravity of Saturn and Jupiter. Life on Earth benefited because of the nearness of the Moon -- both in the chemical makeup of our planetary core and in the fluctuations of ocean tides.

And we've had multi-cellular life for almost 4 billion years. Unbroken. That's probably rare. No catastrophes. And cellular life here had a billion years of lollygagging around, just being single celled organisms. Getting the proteins and protein transcriptions right. And that slow development time included the Goldilocks Just Right balance between maintaining cellular integrity and admitting entirely new organisms: viruses. Somewhere along the line, viruses got mixed into our DNA that do absolutely essential functions for complex life.

And on and on.

That combination is rare.

But the kicker for me against Aliens among isn't even the vastness of space itself. It's the vast abyss of self-awareness. Which means "self-interest". Which means greed, paranoia, suspicion, which means more than a bottle-neck. I think that means extinction. The Earth is saturated with 8 billion self-aware, self-interested, suspicious, paranoid creatures. Many of whom would prefer to kill you as go fishing. Can you name a recent large scale crisis which called for cooperation among people in which was cooperation was readily embraced? No, the opposite has been adopted. AGW. COVID-19. War in Ukraine. Large scale migrations of the poor. I don't think that's unique to homo sapiens. I think that goes hand in glove with being self-aware. A sufficiently complex civilization will destroy itself.
 
Moon landing probably didn’t happen. We went in the 1950s and haven’t been able to get back since. Our tech was minuscule compared to today. There is a belt of radiation so strong that no human could last 1 minute in and yet they say our shuttle traveled 2 hours thru it on the way and 2 hours thru on the way home. Neil Armstrong interviews are so awkward. He isn’t believable
 
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Moon landing probably didn’t happen. We went in the 1950s and haven’t been able to get back since. Our tech was minuscule compared to today. There is a belt of radiation so strong that no human could last 1 minute in and yet they say our shuttle traveled 2 hours thru it on the way and 2 hours thru on the way home. Neil Armstrong interviews are so awkward. He isn’t believable
1950s? Pretty knowledgeable for being at least 10 years off for when it happened.
 
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Lean strong yes
Lean strong yes
zillions of theories which one if any is right?
slam dunk yes not once but several times.

One I would add is did an advanced civilization(s) occupy the earth prior to the evolution of homo sapiens?
Since the 300,000 year history of homo sapiens accounts for just .00005% of the earth's history it seems at least plausible.
There is nothing in the fossil record for that. One thing is certain is that there was a lot of humans living along the coast during glaciation. That area is now submerged under hundreds of feet of water.

If there was an advanced civilization prior to humans, it would have had to all have been on Antarctica. Or they were extremely tidy.
 
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