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Now, yes, as others have stated above. But what killed it in the early 90s isn't affecting it now. That was the monopoly on eyeballs that the NFL, NBA, and MLB enjoyed because of limited viewing options.

Streaming has helped soccer and hockey immensely

Back in the 80s and early 90s it was a rare and special treat to get to watch the Sting play live on TV, and that was with poor broadcast quality. We lived for the World Cup years. Would binge watch all the games with my buddies. Thank God for VCRs (may they rest in piece).
Also the fact that more kids in America have played soccer than any other sport for the last 20 years. It’s by far the most popular youth sport in America.
 
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While it's sort of weird to call a 14 year old a known quantity, Cavan has been playing up for Union Academies since he was ten or eleven. His older brother Quinn has had some success with the US U20 group. What makes Cavan unique from previous youth like Pulisic and Reyna is he could play in Germany starting at 16 but is opting to stay with Philly Union as a domestic player until he's 18 and will head to Man City. Maximo Carrizo with NYFC is an under 16 player who might be on the early European route and he's a dual national with Argentina as well as the US.
 
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Also the fact that more kids in America have played soccer than any other sport for the last 20 years. It’s by far the most popular youth sport in America.

Again, though, it's not because of US pro soccer or even the US World Cup of 15-20 years ago so much as the Internet and streaming
 
While it's sort of weird to call a 14 year old a known quantity, Cavan has been playing up for Union Academies since he was ten or eleven. His older brother Quinn has had some success with the US U20 group. What makes Cavan unique from previous youth like Pulisic and Reyna is he could play in Germany starting at 16 but is opting to stay with Philly Union as a domestic player until he's 18 and will head to Man City. Maximo Carrizo with NYFC is an under 16 player who might be on the early European route and he's a dual national with Argentina as well as the US.

Liverpool just signed a contract with an under 18 US player, right? That's pretty huge

Edit- https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40101398/united-states-keyrol-figueroa-signs-deal-liverpool
 
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Being a crazy ass c-word.

Documents reveal new details about Hope Solo's actions last June​

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    Mark Fainaru-Wada, ESPN Staff WriterMay 29, 2015, 04:08 PM ET

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KIRKLAND, Wash. -- It was early in the morning on June 21, 2014, and Hope Solo had just been arrested on two counts of domestic violence. The police were trying to book her into jail, but Solo was so combative that she had to be forced to the ground, prompting her to yell at one officer, "You're such a b----. You're scared of me because you know that if the handcuffs were off, I'd kick your ass."

https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story...-case-includes-reports-being-belligerent-jail

That ponytail always looked like it was pulled a bit TOO tight. Lol
 
It blows my mind why so many high level women athletes go out of their way to be unlikeable and obnoxious. They could have a near 100% approval rating if they would just play and look like they enjoy being American.

Athletes of either gender... for that matter- actors, actresses, people that work for the govt...
 
Liverpool just signed a contract with an under 18 US player, right? That's pretty huge

Edit- https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40101398/united-states-keyrol-figueroa-signs-deal-liverpool
Figueroa was one of the primary strikers on the last U17 World Cup team for the US; he's probably an example of the classic American 9 like Altidore where he is a physically very mature 18 old. Axel Kei with Real Salt Lake is the same way. Those kids seem to top out pretty early.

Brooks Lennon with Atlanta FC did a stint through Liverpool but never made it through to the Senior team.
 
Figueroa was one of the primary strikers on the last U17 World Cup team for the US; he's probably an example of the classic American 9 like Altidore where he is a physically very mature 18 old. Axel Kei with Real Salt Lake is the same way. Those kids seem to top out pretty early.
Yeah, but the guys most physically ready have fared better. The Aronson's, to name two, will continue to be ok players until they put on weight/ muscle. Sargent looks like a different guy than in years past, maturing physically, and his play shows.
 
While it's sort of weird to call a 14 year old a known quantity, Cavan has been playing up for Union Academies since he was ten or eleven. His older brother Quinn has had some success with the US U20 group. What makes Cavan unique from previous youth like Pulisic and Reyna is he could play in Germany starting at 16 but is opting to stay with Philly Union as a domestic player until he's 18 and will head to Man City. Maximo Carrizo with NYFC is an under 16 player who might be on the early European route and he's a dual national with Argentina as well as the US.


To the best of my understanding, the reason Cavan is staying in Philly was because Man City was wanting him to go to some tier 2 Belgian league or something. Cavan's family and the Philly organization thought his development would be just as good staying home.
 
I saw enough of that crap during the Cal years to know EXACTLY what happens when your team waltzes out with pink shoes on.

It didn’t look like anyone on the field had any meaningful soccer in a long time.

Always good to remind ourselves that while soccer is very popular in US, it’s populated by nerds.
 
1ST time in our history last night that all 11 starters play for big 5 clubs in Europe. You think that would mean we have more talent than ever

Sure didn't look that way. Pathetic display. Not a fan of our coach
 
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The greatest thing soccer could do is change the offsides rule.
Hear me out.
Make it the entire body has to be past the defender for offside to be called.
No more offside if a chest hair is past the defender.
Your leg is even with the defender when the pass is made, tough shit for the defense.

IGAF about tradition. Would make the game better and more exciting for everyone.
 
Herve Renard (France) - My personal favorite, if an option.

Joachim Low (Germany)

Edin Terzic

MLS / American League options :

Steve Cherudolo

Wilfried Nancy
 
I don't know much here, but Pat Noonan has done a phenomenal job at FCC by taking them from near the MLS bottom in <3 years on the job in a league that aims for teams strength balance and where drafting isn't much of a factor.
 
I don't know much here, but Pat Noonan has done a phenomenal job at FCC by taking them from near the MLS bottom in <3 years on the job in a league that aims for teams strength balance and where drafting isn't much of a factor.
Needs to be a coach who is known for developmental portion of coaching. If a coach can't develop the team, it won't matter.
 
JFC, if they don't make Klopp an offer he can't refuse just kill the whole damn program, this isn't a difficult decision
 
Why are you surprised ? it is not like we have been a legit threat. Right now ? It has been a dumpster for , well forever, except for a couple of decent showings.
 
Was more commenting on the "dumpster fire right now". They have are a dumpster fire right now, right then, and until real change is implemented, right later. I wasn't calling your post out, I was calling US soccer out. It is not a quick fix is the sad part, it will take years to change the mindset and the way the US approaches international competition. It all starts with players developing way younger than now, coaching, tactical, you name it. Not one phase of US soccer is remotely on par with consistently good countries. There are too many smaller countries to name, that have a lot less resources, player pool, facilities, and overall opportunity to succeed, but have a lot better soccer programs than the US. There is just not one thing that can change the direction of US soccer, but until they hire a coach who has international success, no matter the changes that are made, they will still be far behind. I truly believe a change in approach has to start at the pre-high school stage of learning the game. I will also add in tennis as a sport the US should NEVER not have a player not tanked in the top 5. But for some reason, tennis, soccer, and other sports the US should excel in, simply are not. Tennis in the 80's / 90's is proof they CAN be competitive, even dominate, but for reasons that stump me, they simply have not been in years. Where did the John McEnroe's, Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi type players disappear to ? Same for the women side, though with the Williams sisters they have had recent success, just not consistent outside of them.

Tennis and soccer, two sports the US can, and should be a lot more competitive, not even dominant, are not.
 
Was more commenting on the "dumpster fire right now". They have are a dumpster fire right now, right then, and until real change is implemented, right later. I wasn't calling your post out, I was calling US soccer out. It is not a quick fix is the sad part, it will take years to change the mindset and the way the US approaches international competition. It all starts with players developing way younger than now, coaching, tactical, you name it. Not one phase of US soccer is remotely on par with consistently good countries. There are too many smaller countries to name, that have a lot less resources, player pool, facilities, and overall opportunity to succeed, but have a lot better soccer programs than the US. There is just not one thing that can change the direction of US soccer, but until they hire a coach who has international success, no matter the changes that are made, they will still be far behind. I truly believe a change in approach has to start at the pre-high school stage of learning the game. I will also add in tennis as a sport the US should NEVER not have a player not tanked in the top 5. But for some reason, tennis, soccer, and other sports the US should excel in, simply are not. Tennis in the 80's / 90's is proof they CAN be competitive, even dominate, but for reasons that stump me, they simply have not been in years. Where did the John McEnroe's, Pete Sampras, Andre Agassi type players disappear to ? Same for the women side, though with the Williams sisters they have had recent success, just not consistent outside of them.

Tennis and soccer, two sports the US can, and should be a lot more competitive, not even dominant, are not.
I agree with this entire post. My dumpster fire comment revolves around the last month or so.
Firing coach, no replacement.
Grouped in Copa America.
Manhandled by powerhouse Morocco in Olympics.

I have been watching USMNT for 40 years and I don't remember a time that seemed more hopeless than right now.
It always seemed we might be gaining a little ground, but everything USMNT related has taken some major steps backward.
IMO
 
Bold move hiring an Argentinian coach. *rolleyes*

Now if we can hand out about 20 work visas to some well deserving South American kids, we might be worth something.
They had to hire someone whether they get illegals on the team or not. He's been big time coach for years. Who knows how he'll help.
 
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