Updated Top 100 Draft Prospects (You Know Who Included)

[LeonThe Camel]

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Draft Express does not care one way or another where a player is from, not trying to rub salt in any wound. Secondly, if he never plays, I don't consider him a Kentucky player. If he would have truly been the number 1 SG in the 17 class he will be a first rounder

It is strange that he is considered a lottery pick in 2018, but barely a first rounder in 2017. Sure it could be because of an extra year of improving, but if is expected to be good enough for a lottery pick (2018), then a team will take him now and work on his game.

 

[LeonThe Camel]

So when did being ranked 35th by ONE service automatically mean a player is definitely gone?

When I see the FIRST NBA Draft expert place him in the top 20, then I'll start caring.

Posters are seeing Bam's rating and jumping to conclusions.

 

[lkc1234]

The old, "Do you want Billy?" Argument. Impossible to get any coach, other than, Tubby or Billy. It's just not possible. Such infatuation with Cal. He has a real cult following.

If you don't like Cal you have the right to go pull for some other team. It would be a welcome relief for some of us on this board.

 

[DerekMcPwn]

If you don't like Cal you have the right to go pull for some other team. It would be a welcome relief for some of us on this board.

Seriously. I have been pretty disappointed with the fan base over the last few days. Some people badly need a new hobby.

 

[lkc1234]

Negative, I much prefer the winning, I just prefer the winning with players who actually play when they come here, I'm over losing EVERYONE ever year, even players who have no business being drafted earlier. Hell, we can't even keep a player that never stepped foot on the court for us lol

No one requires you to be a UK fan. Go pull for another team. It will give people on this board some relief.

 

[StevieJFTW07]

No one requires you to be a UK fan. Go pull for another team. It will give people on this board some relief.

How many times are you going to say that ? ^^^^^^^ I like Coach Cal overall..but a person doesn't have to like everything about the Coach to be a fan of the team.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

have no problem with the rest but diallo played UK cal rolled the dice and lost on this one good thing is he don't lose many

Why don't you wait until everything plays out before posting stuff like this? It's like the guys who post BS during the first half of the the basketball games, only to look dumb as hell when the game is over because they just didn't wait to see how things play out.

 

[Titles1]

How many times are you going to say that ? ^^^^^^^ I like Coach Cal overall..but a person doesn't have to like everything about the Coach to be a fan of the team.

Some are more a fan of Cal than UK.

 

[Titles1]

What is wrong with that. It not only makes their dreams come true but pleases millions of UK fans. Of course there are always a few that hates everything and will never be pleased. I have been a UK fan for years and have suffered through Eddie Sutton, Tubby Smith and Billy Gillespie. I love Cal and what he has done for the players he recruits and for the true UK fans that love winning.

You're not a true fan, if you want more success for UK? A lot of guys here have a crush on Cal.

 

[UKGrad93]

Meh

 

[Jakarii]

Very good chance he doesn't come back especially with the new two way contracts. If you're a playoff team and you know Diallo would be a lotto pick next year then it makes perfect sense to promise to pick him this year or even early second round and then give him a nice sized guaranteed two way contract. You play him in the D league and if he's ready during the season and/or playoffs you bring him up.

It's really a win win for the team. If he doesn't pan out then it's not much of a big deal since you picked him late first/early second

DraftExpress recently updated their Top 100 Prospect list:

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/

5. D Fox
6. M Monk
34. B Adebayo
35. H Diallo
89. I Briscoe
100. I Humphries

In an attempt to rub salt in the wound DraftExpress lists Diallo as coming from the NY Rens, not UK. On a serious note, being so close to the the first round before even setting foot at a pro workout session scares me and for the first time I'm actually starting to think there's a good chance he's gone. If so, I wish him good luck in the future, as I'd want my own so to take advantage of the same opportunity if he was guaranteed to be picked in the first round.

Go Big Blue!!!

 

[Jakarii]

Not strange at all. This year the draft is considered much stronger than next year which means you have a harder chance to crack the first round than you would next year since next year you won't be competing against players who are considered better

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It is strange that he is considered a lottery pick in 2018, but barely a first rounder in 2017. Sure it could be because of an extra year of improving, but if is expected to be good enough for a lottery pick (2018), then a team will take him now and work on his game.

 

[JimBR]

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It is strange that he is considered a lottery pick in 2018, but barely a first rounder in 2017. Sure it could be because of an extra year of improving, but if is expected to be good enough for a lottery pick (2018), then a team will take him now and work on his game.

He'd probably work on his game in the D league, think?

 

[lkc1234]

You're not a true fan, if you want more success for UK? A lot of guys here have a crush on Cal.

That is because Cal has been the best thing that has happened for UK Basketball. What is not to like unless you are a fan of another team. Then you probably hate Cal. He just won the SEC regular season and the conference tournament. We all saw how good the SEC was this year by the way the teams played in the NCAA tournament.

 

[Bungalow Bill]

Some are more a fan of Cal than UK.

And some need something to whine about. These people come out of the woodwork just to do that every chance they get. Cal's our coach so I back him all the way. He's done great for us since he got here. What Hami does isn't going to change that.

 

[Jakarii]

Also even if Diallo leaves that's not a huge deal. Remember when Kanter wasn't eligible and UK still got to be final four. Doesn't mean his team will but it just means Cal recruits very good talent and losing one doesn't hurt him much for the most part

 

[Titles1]

That is because Cal has been the best thing that has happened for UK Basketball. What is not to like unless you are a fan of another team. Then you probably hate Cal. He just won the SEC regular season and the conference tournament. We all saw how good the SEC was this year by the way the teams played in the NCAA tournament.

Most Kentucky measure success by titles, like Alabama in football.

 

[gossie21]

DraftExpress just updated their mock draft and have Diallo going #33. I just can't see him leaving for a second round contract when he could be a lottery pick next year. Then again, I'm not a 19 year old and it's not my decision.

 

[track42]

Also even if Diallo leaves that's not a huge deal. Remember when Kanter wasn't eligible and UK still got to be final four. Doesn't mean his team will but it just means Cal recruits very good talent and losing one doesn't hurt him much for the most part

I'm not sure who would be our starting 2 guard.Maybe Alexander or Baker?I guess Cam Johnson if he comes here.Would be interesting to see.

 

[Hoskins91]

I don't get what there is to be mad about. Is there any actual evidence that having him here kept us from getting someone who would have had an equal or greater impact? If not it's basically the situation we would be in if he never enrolled.

 

[Hoskins91]

Most Kentucky measure success by titles, like Alabama in football.

Who has had more success than us over the last 8 years?

 

[Dreklie]

No one requires you to be a UK fan. Go pull for another team. It will give people on this board some relief.

yea because I post so much lol, get lost bum, keep scrolling if you want to act like a bitch in a response lol

 

[Bluegrassking]

The old, "Do you want Billy?" Argument. Impossible to get any coach, other than, Tubby or Billy. It's just not possible. Such infatuation with Cal. He has a real cult following.

Cals, Ks, and Pitinos are far more rare than Billys and Tubbys. Hell, a goodly number and maybe the majority aren't even Tubbys.

I think Calipari is not only a legit Hall of Famer but an upper echelon one at that. There simply isn't anyone I'd rather have and the arguables are also essentially unobtainable anyway and precious few as well.

Any??? Sure. Equal?? Very dubious. Upgrade? Puff, puff, pass.

No, never mind that. I don't smoke crack!

You are at least implying bringing someone in after running off a coach with a championship and a 75% Elite 8 record that gets to the Final 4 at a 50% clip because of some disappointment with the results.

Your applicant pool that has any reason to be confident they can match that much less exceed is who exactly?

This whole train of thought is way off the rails. Everyone is replaceable but there is such a thing as poor, bad, and even disastrous HR decisions. You are trying to sniff around the latter with this.

Waaaay upside down on risk/reward ratio on this. Way.

 

[Bluegrassking]

You're not a true fan, if you want more success for UK? A lot of guys here have a crush on Cal.

Or maybe some might believe that Cal is what is best for Kentucky Basketball right now and that his results are excellent.

I'm not calling you less than a true fan but I do wonder if the difference between perfection and expectation may be too narrow to glean from reality.

I'm also not a fan of completely devaluing the entire season and the game itself by boiling it all down to a pass/fail of winning a championship. It flat trashes a lot of effort, love, excitement, resources, ups, and downs.

There is real value I would think for a Kentucky fan in the journeys not just the destinations and I tend to believe those who love the game have some appreciation for the competition and grant some respect for accomplishments and results other than just a championship, particularly in a one and done format.

Maybe a little context with the greatest ambitions isn't being a lesser fan either? Want better all you want, I do too. To expect better though, I don't see a coherent case made how to reasonably hope to get there.

Who are these in their primes Rupps and Woodens you folks are hiding that we are being screwed out of?

 

[phart]

I'm a KY. BB fan and I always back our bb coach, but I do not like to see UKY pay a coach almost 8 mil. a year so he can say I put more kids in the NBA, than anyone else.

 

[Aike]

Cals, Ks, and Pitinos are far more rare than Billys and Tubbys. Hell, a goodly number and maybe the majority aren't even Tubbys.

I think Calipari is not only a legit Hall of Famer but an upper echelon one at that. There simply isn't anyone I'd rather have and the arguables are also essentially unobtainable anyway and precious few as well.

Any??? Sure. Equal?? Very dubious. Upgrade? Puff, puff, pass.

No, never mind that. I don't smoke crack!

You are at least implying bringing someone in after running off a coach with a championship and a 75% Elite 8 record that gets to the Final 4 at a 50% clip because of some disappointment with the results.

Your applicant pool that has any reason to be confident they can match that much less exceed is who exactly?

This whole train of thought is way off the rails. Everyone is replaceable but there is such a thing as poor, bad, and even disastrous HR decisions. You are trying to sniff around the latter with this.

Waaaay upside down on risk/reward ratio on this. Way.

You've got it all wrong. Most of these yokels want to keep Cal as the coach. They just think that THEY have the coaching and recruiting tweaks that will make him 10% better.

It really is one of the funniest things on the planet when you stop to think about.

Those of us who realize that no one is perfect, but Cal is about as close as we are going to get - we are the idiots. Us and Cal. Because he is so close. SO. CLOSE. If only he would listen.

 

[LeonThe Camel]

Nearly every pick outside the top 10 or so goes to the D-league for some time in their first few years.

 

[Titles1]

Duke a

Who has had more success than us over the last 8 years?

Duke and Uconn

 

[Bluegrassking]

You've got it all wrong. Most of these yokels want to keep Cal as the coach. They just think that THEY have the coaching and recruiting tweaks that will make him 10% better.

It really is one of the funniest things on the planet when you stop to think about.

Those of us who realize that no one is perfect, but Cal is about as close as we are going to get - we are the idiots. Us and Cal. Because he is so close. SO. CLOSE. If only he would listen.

Ahh...the faaaarrrring is held back for insubordination and not complying with the tweaks.

That adds clarity.

 

[willievic]

I agree with your statement about not considering him a UK player if he never plays a second in a game for us and jumps to the NBA. I just can't ever call him a UK guy if he ends up doing that. I know many on here support his decision and I'm not denying him that but I feel that he kinda used Kentucky in this case right now. Sorry, but that's just my feeling.

He was definitely not a UK basketball player. How many minutes did he play? I played the same number of minutes he did, and I attended UK a lot longer.



OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

 

[sefus12]

I'm a KY. BB fan and I always back our bb coach, but I do not like to see UKY pay a coach almost 8 mil. a year so he can say I put more kids in the NBA, than anyone else.

He's also been to more final-4's since he's been here since anyone else. Is that not success?

 

[Jakarii]

Except that two way contract could make him stay in the draft. He will still get millions while being a second round pick because the team knows he is a lotto guy next year soooooo it makes perfect sense to draft him now, let him play against much better comp in the d league so he will get better than he would while at UK AND get him at a discount.

Diallo losses money on the short end up gets that second contract sooner and makes more money in the long run. Fans tend to think "oh this kid wants to be a first round pick" but it's about the money not the pick. If you can still get guaranteed money in the second round then it's not a big different between late first and second money wise

So why are you guys worrying ???? Listed at 35th???? Yeah that means he'll be back. Especially considering he'll be top 5 in 18. LMAO. Y'all are trippin man. He will be back. You really think he wants to be a 2nd RD pick? This is just stupid as holy hell. HE WILL BE BACK.

 

[Dablueman]

Except that two way contract could make him stay in the draft. He will still get millions while being a second round pick because the team knows he is a lotto guy next year soooooo it makes perfect sense to draft him now, let him play against much better comp in the d league so he will get better than he would while at UK AND get him at a discount.

Diallo losses money on the short end up gets that second contract sooner and makes more money in the long run. Fans tend to think "oh this kid wants to be a first round pick" but it's about the money not the pick. If you can still get guaranteed money in the second round then it's not a big different between late first and second money wise

Or he can have sense enough to know that next year's early entrants are going to be mostly bigs the draft is weak. Diallo with a three point shot and a season dominating college basketball on the biggest stage showing he has the ability to be a beast defender and a freak athlete. Could easily play as high as 2 or 3 in next year's draft. Get an above the rim endorsement deal a Gatorade endorsement deal and get the kinda endorsement money to go with a top 5 contract and have more leverage going into the second contract. Hell the right endorsement after going top 5 would off set any gain he would have. Branding is a big deal it's why u see recruits adding drama to the recruiting at the end. So might as well be honest while your speculating about financial deals and point out that potentially it could be much better for him to come back.

 

[Cawood86]

My problem is if he didn't play because it would hurt HIS DRAFT status.

 

[willievic]

He's also been to more final-4's since he's been here since anyone else. Is that not success?

Different people judge success different. When I was in the Air Force, finishing second was damn sure not what I wanted to do, and I doubt if any other pilot wanted to finish second.
I knew a few pilots who finished second in Namn, such as John McCain, and Wes Schierman, who was a fellow pilot with me at Northwest, and I guarantee they didn't like it. If you aren't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.
I'm not interested in Final Fours, without some NC's in there. When you have the No. 1 recruiting Class for 7 straight years, you need more then 1 NC. Have at it, you Cal lovers, that he can do no wrong.
No, I'm not a Cal hater! I can think of no one I want to replace him with, but I would like to see him do a better job of coaching, instead of worrying if "so and so" is going to be a "One and Done." Read his latest book, and you will see where I'm coming from. I'm tired of the BS about how many first Round draft choices he has sent to the NBA, and how much money they make. UK pays his salary, not the NBA.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

 

[_NWO_Reloaded_]

Except that two way contract could make him stay in the draft. He will still get millions while being a second round pick because the team knows he is a lotto guy next year soooooo it makes perfect sense to draft him now, let him play against much better comp in the d league so he will get better than he would while at UK AND get him at a discount.

Diallo losses money on the short end up gets that second contract sooner and makes more money in the long run. Fans tend to think "oh this kid wants to be a first round pick" but it's about the money not the pick. If you can still get guaranteed money in the second round then it's not a big different between late first and second money wise

Yeah he'd wanna play in the D-League. "Cough Cough" Joke league "cough Cough"

HE WILL BE BACK DAWG. He'll be a top 5 pick in 18.