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[SkyPrince1]

I can't count how many people I know who's favorite character was Beth. I know this will hurt, but your opinion of the show means absolutely nothing to anybody but you.

Yeah mainly women.
I never understood the narrative that Beth was the hero and Jamie was the villain.
Jamie was used by John and was pushed away from the family by Beth's crazy vendetta against him.
Also never really got peoples infatuation with Beth and Rip as a couple.
Rip was really no more than a Luca Brasi to John's Vito Corleone as he was groomed by John for that role from a boy.
Then you have Beth who's a mentally unhinged alcoholic.
To me the only way a Beth/Rip spinoff works is to continue the same plot lines of season 5 pt 2.

 

[FurdTerguson]

Yeah mainly women.
I never understood the narrative that Beth was the hero and Jamie was the villain.
Jamie was used by John and was pushed away from the family by Beth's crazy vendetta against him.
Also never really got peoples infatuation with Beth and Rip as a couple.
Rip was really no more than a Luca Brasi to John's Vito Corleone as he was groomed by John for that role from a boy.
Then you have Beth who's a mentally unhinged alcoholic.
To me the only way a Beth/Rip spinoff works is to continue the same plot lines of season 5 pt 2.

Spot on. Jamie was set up as a villain for Beth's sterilization but where was John and where was Rip? And the mom was the reason Jamie was even in the family and Beth got her killed.

Nothing was more frustrating in that show than the writers having people allow Beth to run roughshod over them. As I pointed out before, she was like Negan. Even Kelly Reilly herself called her a monster.

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

Yeah mainly women.
I never understood the narrative that Beth was the hero and Jamie was the villain.
Jamie was used by John and was pushed away from the family by Beth's crazy vendetta against him.
Also never really got peoples infatuation with Beth and Rip as a couple.
Rip was really no more than a Luca Brasi to John's Vito Corleone as he was groomed by John for that role from a boy.
Then you have Beth who's a mentally unhinged alcoholic.
To me the only way a Beth/Rip spinoff works is to continue the same plot lines of season 5 pt 2.

I know all guys that think she was funny. There are clearly people here that take “mental health” way too seriously, even in a freaking TV series. Yikes. Im out . Enjoy the thread.

 

[SkyPrince1]

I know all guys that think she was funny. There are clearly people here that take “mental health” way too seriously, even in a freaking TV series. Yikes. Im out . Enjoy the thread.

It's all good.
Everyone's going to have their own take on the characters.
I can see the amusement in Beth's over the top antics but I think she became less amusing with each season.
I don't think any character actually had good mental health from living in the bubble that was Yellowstone Ranch.

 

[Creed Bratton]

It's all good.
Everyone's going to have their own take on the characters.
I can see the amusement in Beth's over the top antics but I think she became less amusing with each season.
I don't think any character actually had good mental health from living in the bubble that was Yellowstone Ranch.

Much like most people who spend a lot of time on here. 😕

 

[_ukcat]

OT Was watching the 2009 movie Sherlock Holmes with Robert Downing Jr. Saw Kelly Rilley was in it as Dr. Wataon's( Jude Law) love interest/wife,Mary Morstan.

 

[FurdTerguson]

OT Was watching the 2009 movie Sherlock Holmes with Robert Downing Jr. Saw Kelly Rilley was in it as Dr. Wataon's( Jude Law) love interest/wife,Mary Morstan.

Reilly?

 

[_ukcat]

Reilly?

Yup. I have seen the movie 2 or 3 times but not rewatched it since watching Yellowstone, caught me by surprise that Mary was portrayed by her

 

[BigBlueDave]

OT Was watching the 2009 movie Sherlock Holmes with Robert Downing Jr. Saw Kelly Rilley was in it as Dr. Wataon's( Jude Law) love interest/wife,Mary Morstan.

Big wave got Jamie in Interstellar.

That beard fooled me until yesterday.

 

[FurdTerguson]

Big wave got Jamie in Interstellar.

That beard fooled me until yesterday.

Wasn't he the dude in Hunger Games who had to kill himself at the end because Snow didn't like how they ended?

 

[BigBlueDave]

Wasn't he the dude in Hunger Games who had to kill himself at the end because Snow didn't like how they ended?

Yeah, he's Seneca. I didn't know that either, but I've watched Interstellar twice as many times as Hunger Games.

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

Dang. Beth could have kept the ranch !!

 

[trueblujr2]

I think everyone is happy about the land going to the tribe and Kacey coming out smelling like a rose. But Beth......what a letdown to see her get away with treating everyone like crap for five seasons.

When people invest so much time in a show they just wanna see the good guys come out on top at the end. The people in MASH got to go home. Walter White died but set up his family on the way out. Etc etc. I think Sheridan misjudged what people wanted with Beth. Is she loyal to a fault? Yes. Loyal to a psycho father and psycho husband.

I know Beth was hated and always jaded as a character, but Jamie was worse and what he did by having Beth sterilized, was largely what contributed to her being the kind of Bitch she was. I haven’t no issues with how she went out. Jamie needed to die, and she subjected herself to nearly being killed by Jamie to end him, and without Rip, she likely would have lost that fight.

 

[trueblujr2]

Yeah mainly women.
I never understood the narrative that Beth was the hero and Jamie was the villain.
Jamie was used by John and was pushed away from the family by Beth's crazy vendetta against him.
Also never really got peoples infatuation with Beth and Rip as a couple.
Rip was really no more than a Luca Brasi to John's Vito Corleone as he was groomed by John for that role from a boy.
Then you have Beth who's a mentally unhinged alcoholic.
To me the only way a Beth/Rip spinoff works is to continue the same plot lines of season 5 pt 2.

Wasn’t Jamie adopted? Didn’t they adopt him because he was “smart” or something and John groomed him to the legal career in order to protect the ranch’s interests, but in the end he double crossed them?

 

[SkyPrince1]

Wasn’t Jamie adopted? Didn’t they adopt him because he was “smart” or something and John groomed him to the legal career in order to protect the ranch’s interests, but in the end he double crossed them?

I think they adopted him because he had a terrible father that killed his mother.
John probably knew Jamie wasn't cut out for the ranch so he steered him in another direction that would help the ranch.
John was like a Montana mafioso.
Rip was his Luka Brasi and Jamie was his Tom Hagan.

 

[FurdTerguson]

I know Beth was hated and always jaded as a character, but Jamie was worse and what he did by having Beth sterilized, was largely what contributed to her being the kind of Bitch she was. I haven’t no issues with how she went out. Jamie needed to die, and she subjected herself to nearly being killed by Jamie to end him, and without Rip, she likely would have lost that fight.

Acknowledging first that we aren't talking about real people here, I think Beth was the way she was because she got her mom killed. The governor even told her as much once, pointing out that many people never mature past the age where something tragic changed their lives.

I felt sorry for Jamie up until the point he started letting Beth knock him around. When she came to his house and hit him in front of Sarah Atwood he could have had her put away for a long time. Would have been a layup compared to "playing offense."

Rip hates dogs. Need I say more?

 

[pinecreek]

- I hated Beth so much that I was rooting for Jamie. 🤣




- The first three seasons were excellent. My suspension of reality can only be stretched so far. The family that fought for 150 years for that land suddenly gets bullied by a tax bill. They owed so much money that they had to abandon the whole ranch and John Dutton didn't have an estate planner.

Tim McGraw shoulda stayed the **** in Tennessee.

Yeah, they kill off John Dutton and 800,000 acre property worth a billion dollars or whatever is just given away. All the other Yellowstone shows the people worked for naught. Beth and Casey could have split the 100’s of millions but they are such great people they just gave it up. Doubtful.