UNC's Roy Williams Retiring
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I haven't looked, but I can't imagine Stallings did much better his first two years than Stackhouse did.
Stallings had some really good teams towards the end of his tenure there, but they got into the tournament and stunk it up.
Roy was part of the longest most sustained and university ingrained systemic cheating in NCAA history and even when it was exposed they still got away with it. His tombstone should be the failed education of all the athletes that actually believed they'd get an education as part of the bargain in exchange for all the money their talents brought into UNC.
UNC should be exhibit A for the current Supreme Court case on paying college athletes. UNC proves it's a sham just to lend the appearance of student-athlete as a front to disenfranchise and exploit talented young men and women for fairly being compensated a fair market value for their services.
The UNC story is the most egregiously underreported and failed responsibilities of any "news" organization that reports even in the slightest on sport. The abject failure to hold UNC accountable should be the straw that breaks the camel's back on the entire NCAA system. Pull the plug on it and make that the true "Carolina Way" because that's what the real schtick was anyway. Cheating kids for profit and in the end they didn't even have to hide it.
UNC should be exhibit A for the current Supreme Court case on paying college athletes. UNC proves it's a sham just to lend the appearance of student-athlete as a front to disenfranchise and exploit talented young men and women for fairly being compensated a fair market value for their services.
The UNC story is the most egregiously underreported and failed responsibilities of any "news" organization that reports even in the slightest on sport. The abject failure to hold UNC accountable should be the straw that breaks the camel's back on the entire NCAA system. Pull the plug on it and make that the true "Carolina Way" because that's what the real schtick was anyway. Cheating kids for profit and in the end they didn't even have to hide it.
I wonder what they were both really thinking of each other in that picture.
I’m probably in the minority but I always liked Roy. Actually met him once and he was as nice a guy as could be, even though he didn’t have to be. Wish I could say the same for some of the other college coaches I’ve been around. Roy, Tubby and Spurrier are the 3 nicest coaches I’ve ever met.
Yep, but he had them for 3 or 4 years. They were promised degrees so they could coach on the D1 level and many of them bought it.
Don't know, but I know they beat UK's '12 title in the SECT title game. Had some dudes on that team. I was kinda shocked they moved on from him. Haven't done anything since.
Not much talent this year. It would not matter you would complain regardless of what he did. There were 16 teams in the sweet 16 and not one coach has won a title and they all have more talent this year than Kentucky so 15 coaches will be a failure.
Not surprised by this. They had a bad year and losing multiple transfers, so next year be equal to or worse than our 9-16 record.
Who’s fault is that? Who recruited and built this season’s team? It’s not like Cal just took over the program. It’s his 12th season and 2nd in the past 8 he has missed the NCAAT.
Cal does lead all of college bb in salary and players drafted though.
Really. You are always saying the reason Pitino couldn't beat Cal was Cal had more talent. So whose fault was that?
Yeah, they had some great shooters, but then went and lost in the 2nd round to Wisconsin.
They had 10 losses that year, I didn't realize that until just now.
As far as Kevin Stallings, he started at Vandy in the 99/2000 season. He went 19-11 his first year, but then went 15-15, 17-15 and 11-18 his next 3 years. It's a tough place to win.
And if Cal wins one in the next two years, his average will be about the same...
GOOD GAWD. The level of moronic ineptitude by everyone seated at that desk is staggering. ESPN has been a dog chasing its tail for decades. Want proof? Watch this horrible pile of steaming excrement.
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That’s a pretty big if. Maybe in two years if Wagner comes and is all that. Could happen. At least this years class is the kind of classes Cal should going for.
No one and dones incoming, at least on paper. No current player should feel recruited over. Now do the same next year. Get Wagner and a shooting wing to replace Grady. Maybe one more depending on guys leaving.
Just keep this up. At most two potential OADs per class.
Totally disagree! Stack House would be the perfect fit for many reasons then not; name recognition, youth, and he is a pretty damn good coach! Stack House as head Coach w/Vince Carter anchoring the assist spot would be lights out amazing!
There was a rumor Doherty didn't really understand the full scope of the cheating until he took the UNC job. When he found out he didn't like it so he tried to change the culture and McCants and May didn't like the idea of actually going to class so they tanked the season.
We sincerely hope uNC hires him. We think he would do a great job. Please hire him.
I said he would do better at UNC than he did at Vandy, so I guess you're totally disagreeing with me that UNC would hire him. I guess we'll see. Maybe you're right, but I just doubt UNC would hire a guy who has very little coaching experience when they could probably hire someone away from an established program who is a proven winner.
He sure does. All three with ineligible players. Anyway you want to spin it 5 national Championships with ineligible players. CHEATERS. Dean E. Smith Architect of it all.
“If“ is the key word here.
”If” Cal doesn’t win on in the next 2 years, then?
I know I’m not holding my breath thinking it’s going to happen.
I liked him a lot at Kansas. His 2003 team should’ve won the title but missed 18 free throws and still only lost by 3. Fun team to watch.
His 1997 Kansas team is one of the best to never win it. Ran it to Arizona. Just like Minnesota did and we did.
Pitino is the name that came to my mind when I heard Roy is retiring. I would actually be a little surprised if there weren’t some UNC people reaching out to some Pitino people right now.
And if Cal doesn't he will still have 1 more titles than 15 of the coaches that made the sweet 16 this year.
I don't know if they will go, but it's really enticing. Hell you don't even need to follow the rules.
UNC should make a play for Donovan, then someone from the Underwood/Drew/Mussleman group.
We’re UK not one of the sweet 16 teams. Should we lower our standards to theirs?
Cal over UK reasoning at its best on display
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