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UNCheat goes before infractions committee Wed.

I'll hand it to UNC. The absolutely have played this perfectly. It's funny how UL tried to parrallel them with the hookers to try and keep up with UK but we saw how half-wits performed under pressure.

One thing that UNC successfully evaded was the Wheelz for Heelz. To a further extend, more dirt on Fats Thomas, who didn't know them yet was in pictures with the team and probably gave them more impermissible benefits then what Teddy B got in Miami from Shapiro.

But, the Wheelz for Heelz is simply too easy. It's probably the most straightforward case to handle but somehow, they completely evaded it.

Like JP said, they wear their ability to defraud college athletics as a badge of honor. A truly deplorable and slimy program much like the losers that hired hookers to try gain an advantage on UK.

While I would love to see UNC burn, I have never felt it was going to happen. Furthermore, even if punished, it would be nothing close to what they deserve. I'll have to settle for reminding both UNC and UL fans they are trying to ruin a sport I love because they can't compete all things being equal. Shame but true.
 
NC Weasel said:
I think Bias believes what he is saying. I always remember 2 things when listening to him:

1. He has a hard-on for bashing the idiots at the NCAA. This is a quality I like.
2. He is an attorney. So he reads rules as black and white issues, his take on this is a strict interpretation of his opinion of how these specific rules read.

Any rational person would conclude that 20 years of fake classes, 6 botched investigations, wheels for heels, etc. HAS to be an infraction. Bias is arguing semantics. He knows what UNC did is wrong, but he also knows the NCAA is an antiquated monoplane with tax exempt status.
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Then he must be a crappy attorney too. Any attorney who reads anything as black and white isn't going to win anything but the most blatant black or white issues.
 
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NC Weasel said:
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2. He is an attorney. So he reads rules as black and white issues, his take on this is a strict interpretation of his opinion of how these specific rules read
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Except he isn't reading this as black and white and hasn't done so in any of the recent UNC scandals. He repeatedly called on the NCAA to reinstate PJ Hairston and said what they were doing was "ridiculous." Yet, we found out that the NCAA wasn't the one holding things up. UNC never asked for him to be reinstated after UNC did the investigation. Bilas ran his mouth without knowing the facts.

At the same time, he was also running his mouth about the "bunny classes." These classes were not easy, they were fraudulent. A black and white person would say that they were fraudulent. Bilas is a liar or he is completely misinformed. That is being black and white on my part.
 
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Another thing Bilas is repeating is that there is zero evidence anyone in authority knew about the hookers/strippers. Isn't it in the NOA that according to one player a coach said something like "I guess you guys had such a poor practice because you had strippers last night"? Also, the whole "Coach Mike" has been bandied about for a while. Bilas doesn't think any coach is ever guilty of anything wrong. Well, I should say he won't say that publicly. He wants to stay on good terms with all of them. Vitale does the same thing.
 
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Except he isn't reading this as black and white and hasn't done so in any of the recent UNC scandals. He repeatedly called on the NCAA to reinstate PJ Hairston and said what they were doing was "ridiculous." Yet, we found out that the NCAA wasn't the one holding things up. UNC never asked for him to be reinstated after UNC did the investigation. Bilas ran his mouth without knowing the facts.

At the same time, he was also running his mouth about the "bunny classes." These classes were not easy, they were fraudulent. A black and white person would say that they were fraudulent. Bilas is a liar or he is completely misinformed. That is being black and white on my part.
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Bilas sees things as black & white when it suits him, and sees things as gray when it suits him. That's no doubt useful as a lawyer, but it reveals him as a complete hypocrite on this issue & he makes himself sound like a fool when he tries to push these agendas in the national media as a supposedly unbiased journalist.
 
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This world would be a little better with less lawyers. I'm old & I was brought up that you word meant something.
 
JPScott said:
Bilas sees things as black & white when it suits him, and sees things as gray when it suits him. That's no doubt useful as a lawyer, but it reveals him as a complete hypocrite on this issue & he makes himself sound like a fool when he tries to push these agendas in the national media as a supposedly unbiased journalist.
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Agree, but I think the more interesting aspect to Bilas is why he acts like this. In my experience, when lawyers begin making contradictory and unsupportable statements, one simply needs to look back at the client. In this case, his retainer is none other than ESPN.

I think he's been given marching orders. The position his client has taken is that NC is innocent because that is the best outcome for the financial ledger. Consequently, Bilas begins acting like every other attorney does when directed to ride a bad horse. He spouts the party line. Stresses only those points which support his position and dismisses or trivializes those aspects of the story or case which weaken his argument. If NC gets trashed, as they should, he'll immediately go into appeal mode rather than report the underpinnings of the finding argument. I know this. You know it as does anyone that has been around an attorney for more than 10 minutes.

Two things bother me. First, will Bilas end up firing his client or is he devoid of legal and journalistic ethics. Second, the NCAA is compelled by many of the same motivations as Bilas' client with one exception. Oversight. We'll soon know where the NCAA's priorities lie.
 
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Another thing Bilas is repeating is that there is zero evidence anyone in authority knew about the hookers/strippers. Isn't it in the NOA that according to one player a coach said something like "I guess you guys had such a poor practice because you had strippers last night"? Also, the whole "Coach Mike" has been bandied about for a while. Bilas doesn't think any coach is ever guilty of anything wrong. Well, I should say he won't say that publicly. He wants to stay on good terms with all of them. Vitale does the same thing.
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Whether or not anyone in authority knew is completely irrelevant to why the NCAA punished Pitino. Bilas is being completely dishonest when he keeps stating Pitino didn't know.

The NCAA has never said he knew. The NCAA has never said he should have known. What the NCAA said is this: Pitino created a situation that greatly increased the risk that something bad could happen, and then took no further steps to mitigate that risk.

There are several major things Pitino did or didn't do that are problems, none of which Bilas has ever mentioned. For example, anytime an underage recruit stayed in the dorm, Pitino was first required by UL written policy to obtain four written approvals from non-athletics university staff. Pitino completely ignored that policy.

Those are the types of things that got Pitino in trouble. Has nothing to do with if he knew or should have known.
 
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kybassfan said:
Agree, but I think the more interesting aspect to Bilas is why he acts like this. In my experience, when lawyers begin making contradictory and unsupportable statements, one simply needs to look back at the client. In this case, his retainer is none other than ESPN.

I think he's been given marching orders. The position his client has taken is that NC is innocent because that is the best outcome for the financial ledger. Consequently, Bilas begins acting like every other attorney does when directed to ride a bad horse. He spouts the party line. Stresses only those points which support his position and dismisses or trivializes those aspects of the story or case which weaken his argument. If NC gets trashed, as they should, he'll immediately go into appeal mode rather than report the underpinnings of the finding argument. I know this. You know it as does anyone that has been around an attorney for more than 10 minutes.

Two things bother me. First, will Bilas end up firing his client or is he devoid of legal and journalistic ethics. Second, the NCAA is compelled by many of the same motivations as Bilas' client with one exception. Oversight. We'll soon know where the NCAA's priorities lie.
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I don't think Bilas' client is ESPN only. He's always been somewhat antagonistic to the NCAA but starting sometime last year he's become much more vocal in defending UNC and essentially parroting the UNC company line.

In the most innocent explanation he seems to be far too chummy with people at UNC and the lawyers who are representing them. In the worst case he's partaking of the largesse that UNC has showered on PR & law firms expressly intended to defend themselves.

Either way IMO he's abusing his position as a supposed respected media person by not revealing whatever conflicts of interest he holds.
 
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Oh yeah, and another thing he said yesterday was that people keep saying UNCheat has been arrogant, but why is defending yourself arrogant. He long ago stopped trying to hide the fact that he is nothing but a shill.
 
topps coach said:
Don't agree with Bilad on his take on the situation but he had said that the NCAA has no jurisdiction on this matter even though what they did was wrong.I don't how he comes to this conclusion.
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Just MHO but I feel this type of thing is exactly the thing the NCAA should be enforcing. Yeah, cars and hundred dollar hand shakes are bad, but damn, these fraudulent classes strike right at the heart of the "student athlete". When you can make the Dean's List without ever being on campus, something is dead wrong. Not that anyone did it, they were probably there for practice, but it would be possible.
 
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Yeah, right now the NCAA desperately needs to defend the "value" of a "college education" and UNC spits all over that. They have to blast them.
 
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Bilas , is just following the company line, as directed by the boss of ESPN, he knows as long as he does that he is one of the protected ones and the pay checks keep rolling in. In all honesty do you not think there would have not been more than a ticker at the bottom of the page update if this were KY ? Hello no, they would have reporters at the school asking the kids on campus what this meant to them and did they think it would devalue their degree. They would also be asking them what type of easy classes there are here for them to take ,and what do they require for credit and how many athletes do they see in the classes. From the get go ESPN has had a report only the minimum on this story or else you will be called to the Skippers Office !!
 
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Bilas has little credibility when the NCAA comes in to govern the schools for their improprieties. Letting schools do what they want based on the coach and his morals is a sad approach Bilas is trying to sell.

He can't be an unbiased media member because he has too many agendas he's pushing including defending Duke/K/Allen. Has Bilas ever called out anything K? K could be the coach that rides officials worse than Knight, if that is fathomable.

Enough of the UNC defense from Bilas and Vitale.
 
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Freddie.B.Cocky said:
I am a Gamecock fan and post on FGF, I have almost 4000 likes on that board. I simply came over to your board to get your thoughts on the UNC matter. Plus, I started posting on FGF many years ago, long before the like system came into being. So, it's not fair to compare my overall likes to the amount of post made. But, anyway I came in peace to this board to see what UK fans thought the UNC hearing was going to reveal. I live and work in NC and hate the holes with a passion. UNC fans think UK has the dirties basketball program that ever existed and I knew that you guys would have some choice things to say about the holes. Just wanted to revel in the UNC mess. Sorry, if I offended anyone.
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Sorry I didn't realize likes only pertain to this board but total post are for all boards. It was meant as a joke but obviously some of our apologetic fans with no sense of humor think I am a horrible human being for even saying it. [eyeroll]
 
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