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Ultimately this is what I’m unhappy about.

Are you on crack?

Did we beat UNC. YES
I corrected that before anyone else caught it. Idk how missing that equates to being on crack but ok. We are 1-2 vs the acc. The guy said we would have 1 loss if we were in the acc and my point is we already have 2.
 
But for some reason we are 1-2 against the acc
1 of those games was the very first game of the season and the second game was in early December before our team found its identity. If we played those teams this time of year we’d be undefeated in the ACC, but Duke? Lol they lost at home to freakin VA, they lost to Miami, those are teams we would blow out. But at Auburn? At Tenn? At Arkansas? Hell duke would prolly lose to bama
 
I corrected that before anyone else caught it. Idk how missing that equates to being on crack but ok. We are 1-2 vs the acc. The guy said we would have 1 loss if we were in the acc and my point is we already have 2.
Because that beat down of UNC was pretty epic. Hard to forget except for someone with an agenda.
 
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We are 23-6.

Wheeler has been the PG in a large majority of those games.
You just moved the goalposts my man. We were talking about Wheeler and Ulis.

Great, beating teams like Alabama, KU, TN and Mississippi state is awesome, but Wheeler still isn’t in Tyler Ulis' league. That’s what we were talking about.
 
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We were losing 13-2 before Wheeler and Washington came in the game. Wheeler was not the cause of t
this loss. If anything Grady scoring 3 points hitting 1 shot, Mintz giving us an 0 fer and Toppin doing nothing were the reasons we lost the game if there must be a scapegoat.
 
You just moved the goalposts my man. We were talking about Wheeler and Ulis.

Great, beating teams like Alabama, KU, TN and Mississippi state is great, but Wheeler still isn’t in Tyler Ulis' league. That’s what’s we were talking about.

My point was mainly in reference to Wildcats about Wheeler not being able to lead us.

I disagree with that.
 
losing the one line and potentially dropping to a 3 seed is devastating for this so called title team.
I'm not reading several paragraphs (most of which don't even begin with capital letters) of doom and gloom, but did want to point out just how silly the above take is. Losing the 1 seed is unfortunate but not devastating. That's absurd. And unless we drop another game, we're going to be on the 2 line and yes, still one of the favorites come March. You saying "this so called title team" shows your actual agenda. Reminds me of that blue woman poster who a couple of months ago wrote a very long post as well whining and saying that the program is falling off a cliff and how she doesn't recognize what UK is any longer. Just enjoy the ride. If we lose in the sweet 16, then by all means, come back with your gloomy opinions and many here may even join you.
 
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Because that beat down of UNC was pretty epic. Hard to forget except for someone with an agenda.
I forgot it because we weren’t supposed to play them. It’s really that simple.

And you’re right I have an agenda. For uk basketball to get back on top and hang another title banner. What other fn agenda would a uk fan have? I mean seriously? What is this agenda people think about uk fans like this is global politics or something. We should all want a title and of course there are varying degrees of acceptability of losing but right now after last year my tolerance for losing is very low
 
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This team isn't losing the 2 seed btw.

I find it hard to imagine this team losses to Miss at home. UF might be tough at their place but again this team when healthy has knocked off better teams on the road than them.
 
I'm not reading several paragraphs (most of which don't even begin with capital letters) of doom and gloom, but did want to point out just how silly the above take is. Losing the 1 seed is unfortunate but not devastating. That's absurd. And unless we drop another game, we're going to be on the 2 line and yes, still one of the favorites come March. You saying "this so called title team" shows your actual agenda. Reminds me of that blue woman poster who a couple of months ago wrote a very long post as well whining and saying that the program is falling off a cliff and how she doesn't recognize what UK is any longer. Just enjoy the ride. If we lose in the sweet 16, then by all means, come back with your gloomy opinions and many here may even join you.
Don’t bitch dude at least you got paragraphs
 
Auburn lost
Perdue lost
Kansas or Baylor is going to lose
Arizona is down by 6 to a bad Colorado team.

I fail to see any team that is head and shoulders ahead of the others at the top.
 
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Are we discussing who’s better or who will be a better team in the dance? UCLa returns everyone and was a ff team. I fully expect them to be a very difficult out in March I wouldn’t want to play them
Both. UCLA doesn't scare me in the slightest. They were a flash in the pan last year which led to their inflated ranking to start the season.
 
Auburn lost
Perdue lost
Kansas or Baylor is going to lose
Arizona is down by 6 to a bad Colorado team.

I fail to see any team that is head and shoulders ahead of the others at the top.
Right, which is why a win today would have been huge. Could have put us back on the 1 line.

Too many boneheaded mistakes cost us, but I'm sure those won't happen in the NCAAT.
 
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Man, you’re all over the place. Don’t look at our game against Kansas, look at their body of work. Don’t look at UCLA’s body of work, look at what they did last year. Don’t look at Duke’s schedule, look at who’ll get drafted. Look at our 2 pt loss at Arkansas and 13 point loss at Tennessee, but don’t lol at Purdue’s loss at Rutgers or 26 point loss at Michigan. Can somebody put this in an excel sheet so we know what makes who a contender?
 
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Right, which is why a win today would have been huge. Could have put us back on the 1 line.

Too many boneheaded mistakes cost us, but I'm sure those won't happen in the NCAAT.
Right, which is why a win today would have been huge. Could have put us back on the 1 line.

Too many boneheaded mistakes cost us, but I'm sure those won't happen in the NCAAT.
This is ultimately the point. When we have a chance to really put some distance we blow it then our fans point to other teams failings to feel good about our team. You guys gonna feel good when zona uk Purdue and Gonzaga all lose in sweet sixteen? Are we gonna say “oh well these others lost blah blah blah”? That the point about blow opportunities for many years now.
 
Man, you’re all over the place. Don’t look at our game against Kansas, look at their body of work. Don’t look at UCLA’s body of work, look at what they did last year. Don’t look at Duke’s schedule, look at who’ll get drafted. Look at our 2 pt loss at Arkansas and 13 point loss at Tennessee, but don’t lol at Purdue’s loss at Rutgers or 26 point loss at Michigan. Can somebody put this in an excel sheet so we know what makes who a contender?
I didn’t say any of this. I only say you can’t compare a 6 vs a 4 loss team. My other comments are about the future and what I think Teams will do. I don’t think Ku is a ff team and yeah based on ucla vast tournament experience and success they will do well in the dance. This isn’t brain surgery dude. I don’t care what Purdue or anyone else does but you can’t compare and bitch that KU is ahead of UK right now when they have 2 wins on us and 4 more quad 1 wins. Got it?
 
It happens tho.

All sports. All teams.

I think your just being a bit unrealistic with all of this.

Its frustrating that we lost today when we had an opportunity to obviously jump up in the seeding. But man, you're not going to win road games in conference against good teams all that often.
 
It happens tho.

All sports. All teams.

I think your just being a bit unrealistic with all of this.

Its frustrating that we lost today when we had an opportunity to obviously jump up in the seeding. But man, you're not going to win road games in conference against good teams all that often.
You gotta do it if you want the 8 year monkey off the back. Arizona Auburn hell it was wide open for us to get to the 1 line and the way I see it we beat ourself today
 
This is ultimately the point. When we have a chance to really put some distance we blow it then our fans point to other teams failings to feel good about our team. You guys gonna feel good when zona uk Purdue and Gonzaga all lose in sweet sixteen? Are we gonna say “oh well these others lost blah blah blah”? That the point about blow opportunities for many years now.
Jesus man.At least wait and see what we do in the tourney before already bitching that we are going to lose.
 
You gotta do it if you want the 8 year monkey off the back. Arizona Auburn hell it was wide open for us to get to the 1 line and the way I see it we beat ourself today

True but at the end of the day we still could get a 1 seed and even if we don't, I believe we can certainly do damage in the tournament as a 2 seed.

Heck in some ways, it might be preferable to be say the top 2 seed instead of say the weakest 1 seed in terms of region placement and whatnot.
 
Duke has 5 first rounders and are freshman heavy. Idk if you’ve been watching them but they are getting better each game. They will blow their conference away in the reg season and will win their conference tournament. They are in the position we should be in going into March but we are headed the other way
It’s not we you don’t play it’s Kentucky and duke get to play Boston college and Syracuse and other crap ACC teams while Kentucky has to go to Arkansas Tennessee and auburn, one loss doesn’t mean the sky is falling.
 
I forgot it because we weren’t supposed to play them. It’s really that simple.

And you’re right I have an agenda. For uk basketball to get back on top and hang another title banner. What other fn agenda would a uk fan have? I mean seriously? What is this agenda people think about uk fans like this is global politics or something. We should all want a title and of course there are varying degrees of acceptability of losing but right now after last year my tolerance for losing is very low
You should ask an actual Uk fan and find out.
 
Jesus man.At least wait and see what we do in the tourney before already bitching that we are going to lose.
Our fans used to be savvy and understand that in order to win in March you need to put yourself in the best position to do it which means a 1 seed. Cal has done a number on screwing with our fans expectations and understanding of what it takes to win.

pitino was always very up front. For us to win we need to be the highest 1 seed we can achieve that’s what he would say. He realized a 1vs4 in ss is a much higher percentage to advance than a 2v3. Cal feeds us crazy lines about how his team is playing come March but you know as well as I pitino was much more successful than cal. If he had Cals talent he probably win 5 titles bc he knew what it took and that’s all that mattered. For cal it’s nba and players feelings
 
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I didn’t say any of this. I only say you can’t compare a 6 vs a 4 loss team. My other comments are about the future and what I think Teams will do. I don’t think Ku is a ff team and yeah based on ucla vast tournament experience and success they will do well in the dance. This isn’t brain surgery dude. I don’t care what Purdue or anyone else does but you can’t compare and bitch that KU is ahead of UK right now when they have 2 wins on us and 4 more quad 1 wins. Got it?
For someone concerned about who said what, I’d like to point out I never said Kansas shouldn’t be seeded above Kentucky. I just pointed out you’re all over the place. And you are.
 
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Since 2015 we haven’t been a 1 seed. We’ve had top teams to start the year and can’t get to that top line. We’ve lost a lot of games in the tournament that would have meant a final four walk for us. I see it happening again this season.

we’ve had opportunity after opportunity to seize an inside track on a 1 seed and again twice in the last two weeks blew the opportunity. This is a theme under cal blown opportunities. After last season my patience with cal is absolutely frayed. My confidence in him is an all time low. We keep getting chances and we aren’t cashing in. We are 7-5 against quality teams. One of the losses is a crappy ND team. We are a tamu loss away from being 6-6 against quad 1. I hear out fans and media gush over this team but I don’t see it. I see a team that punished Kansas on the road and is riding that win for reputation.

i see a team who everyone calls a “title team” with one great win all year. That’s the only win that indicates we have a chance. You take out KU and we are probably ranked 12-15 right now.

since KU we have regressed. We haven’t beaten anyone the way we beat Ku since. We gave up massive leads in the last 4 and had to fight to get back in the game. Injuries or not that’s not a trend that bodes well this point in the season. And here we are today choking out chance at a 1 seed choking it away like seasons past. That’s a strong indicator we are going to choke in the tournament.

people laugh and poke fun but at some point there will be a reckoning. Against LSU not only did we give them a massive lead we built a big lead and nearly lost it.

again I don’t care about the injury situation. We have them every year and will have something happen in the tournament. Cal imo does not know what his best five are. He thinks brooks and wheeler are locks for a lot of minutes but they have done more to hurt us than win games.

so here we are. Our next game is March 1. We are not improving. We were a team today who had no idea what to do other than feed oscar. No one can create their own shot and the wrong guys try to be hero’s.

last year sucked. It was the worst. This season we have a better team but can’t get over the hump. I don’t have a lot of excitement for a 6 loss Kentucky team who at this point should be showing improvement but isn’t. Too many years of this almost garbage. People who say a 1 seed isn’t important are the same people who think we are a title team from a 4. The reality is we are a top 15 type team with 1 great win and 5 decent wins. Tamu at the time was good but they have fallen apart. Our next best win is on the road against an average Alabama then we are talking home games that imo prove nothing other than we are good at home.

im sick of almost. Almost a 1 seed, almost a final four team but lose to KSU or Auburn. If we were truly a title team we would have beaten ark or at UT. Instead we are the last two seed if we are fortunate and that may mean Purdue is a 3 in our bracket. Things are not lining up the way they seemed after KU but everyone thinks we are fine. I don’t and you don’t have to look hard to see the warning signs.

losing the one line and potentially dropping to a 3 seed is devastating for this so called title team. It’s disappointing and I expect more especially when we have the pieces but our coach doesn’t know how to use them. I think this season will end on a sour note after hitting our stride too early. It’s been a frustrating 8 years and im ready to get over the hump.

Purdue and Auburn lost KU or Baylor will lose. Today was our day to cash in on an opportunity and it’s yet another opportunity lost.
How much talent is it going to take to ever be a one seed again? Lots of talent every year but most of the time not near enough. Go out and get some good experienced players this year and still not enough. We normally have better quality depth than anyone but we don't use it to our advantage pressing and trapping and wearing teams down. We have an advantage here to have more quality players than anyone but we are content not playing high octane defense pressing and trapping more and playing in your face D in the half court. Just let other teams dictate the pace that is best for them and their less talented team.
 
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There are 3 teams imo who are “special” Duke with 5 first rounders, Gonzaga with a bunch of returners and great freshmen, and Arizona who is a very complete team. After that there is a tier with Auburn, Purdue, Kansas, Villanova, UCLA, then a third tier we are in with ark UT UK Baylor Ohio state Wisconsin, providence, Illinois.
Its a good thing...opinions....yours is worth no more than mine or anyone else's on here.
 
It happens tho.

All sports. All teams.

I think your just being a bit unrealistic with all of this.

Its frustrating that we lost today when we had an opportunity to obviously jump up in the seeding. But man, you're not going to win road games in conference against good teams all that often.
You’re right, you're not going to win a lot of road games, but we had this one. We had 3 or 4 guys that were fighting and making winning plays, then we had 2 guys that played me-ball and made losing plays in key possessions. That’s a problem.

That’s Ashton Hagans 2019 E8 problem.
 
Kansas is likely going to lose to Baylor.

Again very good teams losing on the road to also very good teams. That's all this is.
 
Not only losing to Colorado but by 16.

That's bad.

Probably UK jumps ahead of them again in KP based on that.

Which goes back to my previous post. Now Arizona wouldn't even be favored over us on a neutral court.
 
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The problem is a lot of fans are to reactionary and think the world is falling after one loss, the tournament is going to be as wide open as it’s ever been, Kentucky has just a good shot as anybody to win the championship
Nobody thinks the world is falling. That’s a ridiculous statement.

What most if us realize is, we are seeing the same stupid shit that has caused much better teams than this to get ousted early. Just dumb shit by players and coaches, it's a pattern.

Now, look at all the teams that are losing.

We had a golden opportunity to get to the 1 line and thanks to us not getting Grady involved and Keion playing hero ball, we didn't take advantage.
 
I'd forgive a LOT of the fluke injuries and unlucky breaks, but there have been some absolutely CRUSHING losses under Cal.

Auburn in the Elite 8
North Carolina in the Elite 8
West Virginia in the Elite 8

Give what happened with the NCAA's those years, I firmly believe at least one of those teams win the title.

The Wisconsin loss was a program changer. Some for the good. But mostly, the program won't ever hit the peak it was at during that year.

Unfortunately, Cal also made TWO additional Final Fours (and one more national title). Both times, got lucky as hell with the draw and managed to lose to UConn teams that had less talent and were equally as lucky to be there. He lost both games. To Kevin Ollie. Who ended up getting fired.
 
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Nobody thinks the world is falling. That’s a ridiculous statement.

What most if us realize is, we are seeing the same stupid shit that has caused much better teams than this to get ousted early. Just dumb shit by players and coaches, it's a pattern.

Now, look at all the teams that are losing.

We had a golden opportunity to get to the 1 line and thanks to us not getting Grady involved and Keion playing hero ball, we didn't take advantage.
Might of been a overstatement but losing at a place at Arkansas isn’t anything to be ashamed of doesn’t mean this team is any less capable of winning the top four SEC teams between only have one home loss this year that just shows how tough it is to win on the road, these games will have prepared Kentucky and show why they can win multiple games in the tournament
 
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