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Ultimately this is what I’m unhappy about.

What I am unhappy about is losing a game we could have won.
Brooks and Wheeler just so frustrating down the stretch. Wheeler just has to stop shooting so much. Missed a big shot wide open in the last few minutes and then I think got the rebound and just made way too quick of a pass to turn it over (though I'm pretty sure Grady was bumped out of bounds and fouled but of course they just called him out of bounds). And then Brooks with just too many boneheaded decisions.
 
The comittee isn’t gonna compare UK and KU. Do you not get that? KU is going to be a 1 seed and it won’t be a discussion between if UK or KU is better. Two completely different resumes. It’s like saying bc ND beat us they deserve a 2 or 3 seed over us.
I’m responding to your bulldh*t about KU being on a different tier than UK.

It’s ridiculously stupid, but I shouldn’t expect anything different when I see the other threads you’ve started.
 
Duke also has 2 Q2 losses and 1 Q3 loss.
Duke has 5 first rounders and are freshman heavy. Idk if you’ve been watching them but they are getting better each game. They will blow their conference away in the reg season and will win their conference tournament. They are in the position we should be in going into March but we are headed the other way
 
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Today Wheeler and TyTy were rusty, let them get the rust off and it will make a difference. Other teams know all they have to do is shut down Grady and Mintz and just let Oscar do his thing and they will have a opportunity to win. Scares me that our inbounds play is a push off to get open, Keon made three bad moves while the game was in balance...Keon needs to man up he is as soft as butter when he needs to be tough, hoped Bryce would come in and be a man today again, Wheeler made some big shots today.
 
Duke has 5 first rounders and are freshman heavy. Idk if you’ve been watching them but they are getting better each game. They will blow their conference away in the reg season and will win their conference tournament. They are in the position we should be in going into March but we are headed the other way

How exactly are we heading the other way? Because we lost road games to top 20 competition? We also beat LSU and Alabama recently who are good teams.
 
Brooks and Wheeler just so frustrating down the stretch. Wheeler just has to stop shooting so much. Missed a big shot wide open in the last few minutes and then I think got the rebound and just made way too quick of a pass to turn it over (though I'm pretty sure Grady was bumped out of bounds and fouled but of course they just called him out of bounds). And then Brooks with just too many boneheaded decisions.
I’ve never wanted to smack a player harder than Brooks today. Gets that huge rebound when we were up two and just gave it up.

What’s dang ne’er unforgivable is him shooting that three. He had no damn business on God’s beautiful green Earth taking that shot.

And you don’t give Shows an excuse t9 call you for a foul like that.

Dude owns a big part of this L.
 
Duke has 5 first rounders and are freshman heavy. Idk if you’ve been watching them but they are getting better each game. They will blow their conference away in the reg season and will win their conference tournament. They are in the position we should be in going into March but we are headed the other way
Do you think the ACC being shit has anything to do with that?Let Duke play at tenn,at Ark and at Auburn and see what happens.
 
Duke has 5 first rounders and are freshman heavy. Idk if you’ve been watching them but they are getting better each game. They will blow their conference away in the reg season and will win their conference tournament. They are in the position we should be in going into March but we are headed the other way
Please go slurp K like everyone else then. Please. You won’t be the last to fall for his incubus charms.
 
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Do you think the ACC being shit has anything to do with that?Let Duke play at tenn,at Ark and at Auburn and see what happens.

Exactly.

So we dock Gonzaga for playing in a crappy WCC but Duke looking good in the ACC is supposed to be some sort of indication that they are good or special? lol

Listen Duke is very good. They are in the convo as title contender. But IMO they aren't any more special than we are.
 
I’ve never wanted to smack a player harder than Brooks today. Gets that huge rebound when we were up two and just gave it up.

What’s dang ne’er unforgivable is him shooting that three. He had no damn business on God’s beautiful green Earth taking that shot.

And you don’t give Shows an excuse t9 call you for a foul like that.

Dude owns a big part of this L.
Yes, agreed completely. He was so frustrating. I still think it was a BS call by Shows but you're absolutely right that you don't even give him a CHANCE to make that call. Just no need to push off at all. Wheeler wasn't that far behind in the frustration department.
 
Yes. Let me take a guy who nearly got tossed off the team over a hard worker like wheeler who hasn’t caused any chemistry issues.

That s ridiculous and you know it.
Hagans is 12x the player wheeler is. Hagans was a headcase and I would have no problems having cut him for his actions and attitude. Wheeler is a wildly inconsistent player who is undersized big time. I’d prop him at the end of the bench in any game we have to run a half court offense. His lone attribute pushing the ball well if we play a team we can push against he play if not let tyty run it.

of course I take hagans. You can try to fix the mindset but you can’t fix height
 
We re a completely different team now and we have played our best ball at home. UT at the time was reeling KU wasn’t. You’re a stats guy you know those two wins aren’t close
You are basing that one what? The fact that 3 guys had been out for week and just returned? I guess you figured that’s like replacing an oil filter. Arky has played some good ball lately. Our 2 returning guys were clearly rusty. Mintz had a rough game probably because they have been riding him hard in the absence of the other 2. Grady was the focus of a Blitzkrieg plus had to transition back to his former position. Brooks had a less than perfect game.

Still, that game was close as hell and we went down guns blazing. Sounds like we are the same team dealing extremely well with adversity. I can only conclude you were eager to piss on the cats. In that respect it is business as usual.
 
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How tall was Ulis?

I think he did okay lol
Ulis could shoot and was a very consistent player. You pick out 1 thing and cling to it just like beating Ku head to head instead of looking big picture. If wheeler had been out pg in 2016 we don’t make the tournament.
 
I don't have to cling to anything.

Our resume speaks for itself.

Which is why we were an overall 6 in the bracket reveal.
 
There are 3 teams imo who are “special” Duke with 5 first rounders, Gonzaga with a bunch of returners and great freshmen, and Arizona who is a very complete team. After that there is a tier with Auburn, Purdue, Kansas, Villanova, UCLA, then a third tier we are in with ark UT UK Baylor Ohio state Wisconsin, providence, Illinois.
That’s nonsense. UK is better than everyone in your second tier
 
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On a neutral court, we'd be slightly favored over Duke. So I don't really consider them all that special. Yeah they have NBA talent but that doesn't always equate to special teams.

Arizona would be slightly favored over us. Like 1 or 2 points. Certainly not an insurmountable task.

I would agree about Gonzaga.

But it reality, IMO everyone else on the 1 and 2 lines would all very close games that could go either way in the tournament.
It would come down to the team that has players that understand what winning basketball is and that's where we are going to lose.

Seen it for a while now, but we were so good in other areas that it covered the issues up, well, when Tyty gets shut down, we have guys that do incredibly stupid things.
 
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Duke has 5 first rounders and are freshman heavy. Idk if you’ve been watching them but they are getting better each game. They will blow their conference away in the reg season and will win their conference tournament. They are in the position we should be in going into March but we are headed the other way
If UK was in the ACC they’d have 1 loss. I grant you that Duke is good and will win out for a 1 seed because the ACC sux.
 
I'm starting to see the same things I've seen out if so many of our teams that came up short because they didn't play winning basketball.

We have a deadly 3 point shooter, but we allow him to stand there and guard himself. He doesn't fight to get open and we don't set screens for him.

Remember Booker? Yeah, the guy that went to the NBA and immediately started dominating? We never used that weapon.

I'm also seeing Wheeler and especially Brooks, make losing plays in extremely key possessions. Neither player shouod be shooting jumpers outside 10' and tgey damn sure shouldn’t be shooting long jumoers with good time on the shot clock.

Both players continue to force plays/shots that they can't make. I'm telling you, it's going to get this team beat as soon as they run into someone that stands next to Grady and doesn't help off and also leaves Brooks open.
What’s going to get this team beat is Shooting. Like so many other years, we have one guy who can hit an outside shot,1. I remember everyone crowing about how we would play 4 guards and shoot teams out of the gym before the season started . Well here we are near game 30 playing exactly the kind of offensive sets Cal has always played. Wheeler is below average , although he did hit 2 three pointers today, half of our total. Mintz is streaky and unreliable, Washington hasn’t shot well from outside since well before his ankle injury, he managed to bank one in today. Grady our only real shooter is not exsplosive and struggles to create his own shot. We do very little to get him open looks. Brooks can’t hit from outside and Toppin is wildly inconsistent. Oscar might put us on his back and win a couple of games in the tourney, but he will not win 6 in a row. Good coaches watch us and scheme a defensive game plan that makes us struggle. We will struggle mightily to win the SEC tournament. All that said I have enjoyed watching this team and like all the players, they have represented the University well, but anyone who believes this is a championship team is living in LaLa land.
 
What I don’t like:

1-wont adjust defensively
2-no follow through for Hopkins. No run
3-where was Collins, Ware? 15 sec. Haha
4-Oscar gonna be worn by tourney time
5-Please get Grady some shots. Damn!!!
6-Cal

I agree with about everything OP had to say and maybe a level beyond. This is gonna end just like we’ve seen before and I hate it. The real UK wins these type games. Cal UK don’t. AT LEAST 3 titles for any other coach with a pulse given the talent we’ve had for the past 10 years.
 
Duke has 5 first rounders and are freshman heavy. Idk if you’ve been watching them but they are getting better each game. They will blow their conference away in the reg season and will win their conference tournament. They are in the position we should be in going into March but we are headed the other way
They are the only team in their conference projected to be better than a 9 seed. Their competition lately has been hot garbage.
 
Add UCLA to this. We are much better than the Bruins.
Are we discussing who’s better or who will be a better team in the dance? UCLa returns everyone and was a ff team. I fully expect them to be a very difficult out in March I wouldn’t want to play them
 
Since 2015 we haven’t been a 1 seed. We’ve had top teams to start the year and can’t get to that top line. We’ve lost a lot of games in the tournament that would have meant a final four walk for us. I see it happening again this season.

we’ve had opportunity after opportunity to seize an inside track on a 1 seed and again twice in the last two weeks blew the opportunity. This is a theme under cal blown opportunities. After last season my patience with cal is absolutely frayed. My confidence in him is an all time low. We keep getting chances and we aren’t cashing in. We are 7-5 against quality teams. One of the losses is a crappy ND team. We are a tamu loss away from being 6-6 against quad 1. I hear out fans and media gush over this team but I don’t see it. I see a team that punished Kansas on the road and is riding that win for reputation.

i see a team who everyone calls a “title team” with one great win all year. That’s the only win that indicates we have a chance. You take out KU and we are probably ranked 12-15 right now.

since KU we have regressed. We haven’t beaten anyone the way we beat Ku since. We gave up massive leads in the last 4 and had to fight to get back in the game. Injuries or not that’s not a trend that bodes well this point in the season. And here we are today choking out chance at a 1 seed choking it away like seasons past. That’s a strong indicator we are going to choke in the tournament.

people laugh and poke fun but at some point there will be a reckoning. Against LSU not only did we give them a massive lead we built a big lead and nearly lost it.

again I don’t care about the injury situation. We have them every year and will have something happen in the tournament. Cal imo does not know what his best five are. He thinks brooks and wheeler are locks for a lot of minutes but they have done more to hurt us than win games.

so here we are. Our next game is March 1. We are not improving. We were a team today who had no idea what to do other than feed oscar. No one can create their own shot and the wrong guys try to be hero’s.

last year sucked. It was the worst. This season we have a better team but can’t get over the hump. I don’t have a lot of excitement for a 6 loss Kentucky team who at this point should be showing improvement but isn’t. Too many years of this almost garbage. People who say a 1 seed isn’t important are the same people who think we are a title team from a 4. The reality is we are a top 15 type team with 1 great win and 5 decent wins. Tamu at the time was good but they have fallen apart. Our next best win is on the road against an average Alabama then we are talking home games that imo prove nothing other than we are good at home.

im sick of almost. Almost a 1 seed, almost a final four team but lose to KSU or Auburn. If we were truly a title team we would have beaten ark or at UT. Instead we are the last two seed if we are fortunate and that may mean Purdue is a 3 in our bracket. Things are not lining up the way they seemed after KU but everyone thinks we are fine. I don’t and you don’t have to look hard to see the warning signs.

losing the one line and potentially dropping to a 3 seed is devastating for this so called title team. It’s disappointing and I expect more especially when we have the pieces but our coach doesn’t know how to use them. I think this season will end on a sour note after hitting our stride too early. It’s been a frustrating 8 years and im ready to get over the hump.

Purdue and Auburn lost KU or Baylor will lose. Today was our day to cash in on an opportunity and it’s yet another opportunity lost.
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What I don’t like:

1-wont adjust defensively
2-no follow through for Hopkins. No run
3-where was Collins, Ware? 15 sec. Haha
4-Oscar gonna be worn by tourney time
5-Please get Grady some shots. Damn!!!
6-Cal

I agree with about everything OP had to say and maybe a level beyond. This is gonna end just like we’ve seen before and I hate it. The real UK wins these type games. Cal UK don’t. AT LEAST 3 titles for any other coach with a pulse given the talent we’ve had for the past 10 years.
Point 4 I never even considered but you’re right he’s had no break.
 
What’s going to get this team beat is Shooting. Like so many other years, we have one guy who can hit an outside shot,1. I remember everyone crowing about how we would play 4 guards and shoot teams out of the gym before the season started . Well here we are near game 30 playing exactly the kind of offensive sets Cal has always played. Wheeler is below average , although he did hit 2 three pointers today, half of our total. Mintz is streaky and unreliable, Washington hasn’t shot well from outside since well before his ankle injury, he managed to bank one in today. Grady our only real shooter is not exsplosive and struggles to create his own shot. We do very little to get him open looks. Brooks can’t hit from outside and Toppin is wildly inconsistent. Oscar might put us on his back and win a couple of games in the tourney, but he will not win 6 in a row. Good coaches watch us and scheme a defensive game plan that makes us struggle. We will struggle mightily to win the SEC tournament. All that said I have enjoyed watching this team and like all the players, they have represented the University well, but anyone who believes this is a championship team is living in LaLa land.
I can't disagree with anything you said here.

I have also enjoyed watching this team, but they aren't winning it all this year, nope, I've seen this movie too many times. We have a deadly weapon that Cal doesn't utilize, we have a pg that can’t shoot and we have an extremely selfish 4 that doesn't know what winning basketball is and Cal refuses to bench his ass.
 
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It's not to say he is.

Just that if Ulis could play undersized, Wheeler can also do some things as an undersized guard as well.
Just because Ulis can do it, doesn’t mean Wheeler can. Not by a long shot.

In fact, there are very few 5'9" guys on the planet that can play as well as Ulis. Wheeler isn’t one of them.
 
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Duke has 5 first rounders and are freshman heavy. Idk if you’ve been watching them but they are getting better each game. They will blow their conference away in the reg season and will win their conference tournament. They are in the position we should be in going into March but we are headed the other way
The ACC is the consensus worst conference in basketball and the SEC is the consensus #1 conference….
 
Just because Ulis can do it, doesn’t mean Wheeler can. Not by a long shot.

In fact, there are very few 5'9" guys on the planet that can play as well as Ulis. Wheeler isn’t one of them.

We are 23-6.

Wheeler has been the PG in a large majority of those games.
 
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