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Ultimately this is what I’m unhappy about.

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Since 2015 we haven’t been a 1 seed. We’ve had top teams to start the year and can’t get to that top line. We’ve lost a lot of games in the tournament that would have meant a final four walk for us. I see it happening again this season.

we’ve had opportunity after opportunity to seize an inside track on a 1 seed and again twice in the last two weeks blew the opportunity. This is a theme under cal blown opportunities. After last season my patience with cal is absolutely frayed. My confidence in him is an all time low. We keep getting chances and we aren’t cashing in. We are 7-5 against quality teams. One of the losses is a crappy ND team. We are a tamu loss away from being 6-6 against quad 1. I hear out fans and media gush over this team but I don’t see it. I see a team that punished Kansas on the road and is riding that win for reputation.

i see a team who everyone calls a “title team” with one great win all year. That’s the only win that indicates we have a chance. You take out KU and we are probably ranked 12-15 right now.

since KU we have regressed. We haven’t beaten anyone the way we beat Ku since. We gave up massive leads in the last 4 and had to fight to get back in the game. Injuries or not that’s not a trend that bodes well this point in the season. And here we are today choking out chance at a 1 seed choking it away like seasons past. That’s a strong indicator we are going to choke in the tournament.

people laugh and poke fun but at some point there will be a reckoning. Against LSU not only did we give them a massive lead we built a big lead and nearly lost it.

again I don’t care about the injury situation. We have them every year and will have something happen in the tournament. Cal imo does not know what his best five are. He thinks brooks and wheeler are locks for a lot of minutes but they have done more to hurt us than win games.

so here we are. Our next game is March 1. We are not improving. We were a team today who had no idea what to do other than feed oscar. No one can create their own shot and the wrong guys try to be hero’s.

last year sucked. It was the worst. This season we have a better team but can’t get over the hump. I don’t have a lot of excitement for a 6 loss Kentucky team who at this point should be showing improvement but isn’t. Too many years of this almost garbage. People who say a 1 seed isn’t important are the same people who think we are a title team from a 4. The reality is we are a top 15 type team with 1 great win and 5 decent wins. Tamu at the time was good but they have fallen apart. Our next best win is on the road against an average Alabama then we are talking home games that imo prove nothing other than we are good at home.

im sick of almost. Almost a 1 seed, almost a final four team but lose to KSU or Auburn. If we were truly a title team we would have beaten ark or at UT. Instead we are the last two seed if we are fortunate and that may mean Purdue is a 3 in our bracket. Things are not lining up the way they seemed after KU but everyone thinks we are fine. I don’t and you don’t have to look hard to see the warning signs.

losing the one line and potentially dropping to a 3 seed is devastating for this so called title team. It’s disappointing and I expect more especially when we have the pieces but our coach doesn’t know how to use them. I think this season will end on a sour note after hitting our stride too early. It’s been a frustrating 8 years and im ready to get over the hump.

Purdue and Auburn lost KU or Baylor will lose. Today was our day to cash in on an opportunity and it’s yet another opportunity lost.
 
OP’s last words: “Another opportunity lost.”

That’s Cal in a nutshell. Brags on his NBA talent, but won a single title with said talent. Gets bounced from the tourney in consecutive years by teams that don’t have one of their best players. Slows the game down when leading late, and loses. Even managed to squander opportunity when at Memphis, and lose to Bill Self.

Good nickname for Cal: Mr. Opportunity Lost
 
We need a final four run for sure...but I share your anxiety that we're pissing away a really good chance to stay far away from Zags and even Auburn as 1 seeds....so we'll be a 2 seed more than likely now. But us getting another crack while healthy at these teams in SEC tourney should be telling.
 
I thought the wins vs LSU and Alabama minus our starting back court was also rather impressive.

Or the road win vs Alabama.

I mean...........ahh nvm.

Maybe the media and polls and ranking systems speak so highly of us because.........we are a good team lol.
 
I thought the wins vs LSU and Alabama minus our starting back court was also rather impressive.

Or the road win vs Alabama.

I mean...........ahh nvm.

Maybe the media and polls and ranking systems speak so highly of us because.........we are a good team lol.
We are great. But are we special? Jury is still out. I think we can be but we dropped a huge chance today.
 
We are great. But are we special? Jury is still out. I think we can be but we dropped a huge chance today.

Do we really have to be tho? Is there really any team out there currently that you'd consider to be special?

We might not be a notch ahead of all those other teams fighting for 1 and 2 seeds but I honestly can't see another team that is either.
 
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I thought the wins vs LSU and Alabama minus our starting back court was also rather impressive.

Or the road win vs Alabama.

I mean...........ahh nvm.

Maybe the media and polls and ranking systems speak so highly of us because.........we are a good team lol.
Those were good but not great wins. If that was our actual team we are going to the T with then yeah but it was a make shift team and mintz and Grady defer to wheeler and TyTy. I told you after the duke game we are going no where with wheeler running the show. The guy is the most inconsistent player at UK in many many years.
 
Really don’t want Dook either. Their big and are not a good matchup for the CATS. Take any of the top Coaches in College basketball and have them Coach the exact same teams CAL had at KY and they would have at minimum 3 Titles. It is what it is.
 
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Those were good but not great wins. If that was our actual team we are going to the T with then yeah but it was a make shift team and mintz and Grady defer to wheeler and TyTy. I told you after the duke game we are going no where with wheeler running the show. The guy is the most inconsistent player at UK in many many years.
Oh what a load of rubbish.

You’re going to say that Wheeler is less consistent that Askew? Or Hagans. B double S.
 
Those were good but not great wins. If that was our actual team we are going to the T with then yeah but it was a make shift team and mintz and Grady defer to wheeler and TyTy. I told you after the duke game we are going no where with wheeler running the show. The guy is the most inconsistent player at UK in many many years.

I mean Wheeler wasn't great today but we only lost by 2 points on the road to an Arkansas team that doesn't lose at home.

I think we need to put things into perspective here.

I'm interested to hear from people that are down on UK just who exactly do you guys feel are good? Everyone has losses.

And people can bring up the 7-6 in Q1 games but honestly I'd rather be 7-6 in those games than 7-2 with the losses happening in other Quads..........like I dunno Duke.
 
What I am unhappy about is losing a game we could have won.

I agree. Having said that, look at how we lost and there is plenty of blame to go around. Turnovers, poor execution, horrible shot selection, and having Brooks shooting that 3 at the end was a horrible decision.

Wheeler needs to shoot less. Grady needs to shoot more and we just need TyTy to get back to where he was. That is the recipe for this team being GREAT!
 
Do we really have to be tho? Is there really any team out there currently that you'd consider to be special?

We might not be a notch ahead of all those other teams fighting for 1 and 2 seeds but I honestly can't see another team that is either.
There are 3 teams imo who are “special” Duke with 5 first rounders, Gonzaga with a bunch of returners and great freshmen, and Arizona who is a very complete team. After that there is a tier with Auburn, Purdue, Kansas, Villanova, UCLA, then a third tier we are in with ark UT UK Baylor Ohio state Wisconsin, providence, Illinois.
 
5 of the 6 losses we've had have been on the road. 5 of the 6 losses we've had have come to Kenpom Top 20 teams.

There are no road games in March.
You gotta do more than lose to top 20 teams. You think the selection comittee is gonna reward us for our loses?
 
There are 3 teams imo who are “special” Duke with 5 first rounders, Gonzaga with a bunch of returners and great freshmen, and Arizona who is a very complete team. After that there is a tier with Auburn, Purdue, Kansas, Villanova, UCLA, then a third tier we are in with ark UT UK Baylor Ohio state Wisconsin, providence, Illinois.
You put Kansas ahead of us after we kicked their ass on their own floor?
 
On a neutral court, we'd be slightly favored over Duke. So I don't really consider them all that special. Yeah they have NBA talent but that doesn't always equate to special teams.

Arizona would be slightly favored over us. Like 1 or 2 points. Certainly not an insurmountable task.

I would agree about Gonzaga.

But it reality, IMO everyone else on the 1 and 2 lines would all very close games that could go either way in the tournament.
 
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You put Kansas ahead of us after we kicked their ass on their own floor?
Stop using that as an indicator. Head to head means nothing when they end up with 11 quad 1 wins to our 6. I mean KU 4 losses cats 6. No head to head is meaningless when they have the quality wins they do
 
There are 3 teams imo who are “special” Duke with 5 first rounders, Gonzaga with a bunch of returners and great freshmen, and Arizona who is a very complete team. After that there is a tier with Auburn, Purdue, Kansas, Villanova, UCLA, then a third tier we are in with ark UT UK Baylor Ohio state Wisconsin, providence, Illinois.
There is no way Kansas and nova are in a tier above us, no way.
 
Since 2015 we haven’t been a 1 seed. We’ve had top teams to start the year and can’t get to that top line. We’ve lost a lot of games in the tournament that would have meant a final four walk for us. I see it happening again this season.

we’ve had opportunity after opportunity to seize an inside track on a 1 seed and again twice in the last two weeks blew the opportunity. This is a theme under cal blown opportunities. After last season my patience with cal is absolutely frayed. My confidence in him is an all time low. We keep getting chances and we aren’t cashing in. We are 7-5 against quality teams. One of the losses is a crappy ND team. We are a tamu loss away from being 6-6 against quad 1. I hear out fans and media gush over this team but I don’t see it. I see a team that punished Kansas on the road and is riding that win for reputation.

i see a team who everyone calls a “title team” with one great win all year. That’s the only win that indicates we have a chance. You take out KU and we are probably ranked 12-15 right now.

since KU we have regressed. We haven’t beaten anyone the way we beat Ku since. We gave up massive leads in the last 4 and had to fight to get back in the game. Injuries or not that’s not a trend that bodes well this point in the season. And here we are today choking out chance at a 1 seed choking it away like seasons past. That’s a strong indicator we are going to choke in the tournament.

people laugh and poke fun but at some point there will be a reckoning. Against LSU not only did we give them a massive lead we built a big lead and nearly lost it.

again I don’t care about the injury situation. We have them every year and will have something happen in the tournament. Cal imo does not know what his best five are. He thinks brooks and wheeler are locks for a lot of minutes but they have done more to hurt us than win games.

so here we are. Our next game is March 1. We are not improving. We were a team today who had no idea what to do other than feed oscar. No one can create their own shot and the wrong guys try to be hero’s.

last year sucked. It was the worst. This season we have a better team but can’t get over the hump. I don’t have a lot of excitement for a 6 loss Kentucky team who at this point should be showing improvement but isn’t. Too many years of this almost garbage. People who say a 1 seed isn’t important are the same people who think we are a title team from a 4. The reality is we are a top 15 type team with 1 great win and 5 decent wins. Tamu at the time was good but they have fallen apart. Our next best win is on the road against an average Alabama then we are talking home games that imo prove nothing other than we are good at home.

im sick of almost. Almost a 1 seed, almost a final four team but lose to KSU or Auburn. If we were truly a title team we would have beaten ark or at UT. Instead we are the last two seed if we are fortunate and that may mean Purdue is a 3 in our bracket. Things are not lining up the way they seemed after KU but everyone thinks we are fine. I don’t and you don’t have to look hard to see the warning signs.

losing the one line and potentially dropping to a 3 seed is devastating for this so called title team. It’s disappointing and I expect more especially when we have the pieces but our coach doesn’t know how to use them. I think this season will end on a sour note after hitting our stride too early. It’s been a frustrating 8 years and im ready to get over the hump.

Purdue and Auburn lost KU or Baylor will lose. Today was our day to cash in on an opportunity and it’s yet another opportunity lost.
How many threads are you going to start? We lost a close one on the road. It happens. Nobody cares why you’re unhappy.
 
Stop using that as an indicator. Head to head means nothing when they end up with 11 quad 1 wins to our 6. I mean KU 4 losses cats 6. No head to head is meaningless when they have the quality wins they do
The 2 teams played each other. One whupped the others ass on their home floor. But don’t use that as an indicator.

Makes perfect sense lol.
 
There are 3 teams imo who are “special” Duke with 5 first rounders, Gonzaga with a bunch of returners and great freshmen, and Arizona who is a very complete team. After that there is a tier with Auburn, Purdue, Kansas, Villanova, UCLA, then a third tier we are in with ark UT UK Baylor Ohio state Wisconsin, providence, Illinois.
You think duke is special? Why are Auburn and Purdue special but not us? Purdue just lost to an unranked team UCLA just lost to an unranked team. UCLA isn't even good.
 
I'm starting to see the same things I've seen out if so many of our teams that came up short because they didn't play winning basketball.

We have a deadly 3 point shooter, but we allow him to stand there and guard himself. He doesn't fight to get open and we don't set screens for him.

Remember Booker? Yeah, the guy that went to the NBA and immediately started dominating? We never used that weapon.

I'm also seeing Wheeler and especially Brooks, make losing plays in extremely key possessions. Neither player shouod be shooting jumpers outside 10' and tgey damn sure shouldn’t be shooting long jumoers with good time on the shot clock.

Both players continue to force plays/shots that they can't make. I'm telling you, it's going to get this team beat as soon as they run into someone that stands next to Grady and doesn't help off and also leaves Brooks open.
 
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KU and Baylor have 10 quad 1 wins. 4 losses. Duke is a ridiculous 5-1 against quad 1

Duke also has 2 Q2 losses and 1 Q3 loss.

And that 5-1 broken down even further is against

1 = Gonzaga (impressive)
3 = UK (impressive)
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41 = UNC
43 = Wake Forest
56 = ND
 
The 2 teams played each other. One whupped the others ass on their home floor. But don’t use that as an indicator.

Makes perfect sense lol.
The comittee isn’t gonna compare UK and KU. Do you not get that? KU is going to be a 1 seed and it won’t be a discussion between if UK or KU is better. Two completely different resumes. It’s like saying bc ND beat us they deserve a 2 or 3 seed over us.
 
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I see a good team that can play great when shots are falling; but I can’t say I think we are a great team. We are good.
I don’t think good is good enough unless we fix some glaring issues before tourney. Gotta figure out how to get Grady open looks. When he is hitting shots, we are or can be great. Definitely good enough to win 6. But if he isn’t shooting the ball, we are just descent.
 
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