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UK still a 3-seed in updated bracketology

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How is St Johns that low? I do believe that everything now depends upon the rest of the season. History shows the conference tournaments don't really influence the seedings. But, there are always a few surprises in these conference tournaments that are won by a team not likely to be in otherwise and that knocks others out.
 
Good to see. Weathering the storm, more or less. We are somewhat dangerously close to the 4-5 teams behind us.

We sit at 3.31... but TTU, St. Johns, Michigan Purdue and Arizona are pretty close behind falling in the 3.60 to 3.80 range. Have to win one more I think to safely stay in the 3-seed.
 
IF the SC is similar then we are still on the cusp of a 2 seed and that is why the next four games matter. If we could win the OU, LSU, and one of AU and Missouri, I think we could get a 2 seed if we are the 11th overall currently. If we win all four it is almost guarenteed. Lose 3 of 4 and could drop all the way to the last four or even a 5.
 
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So Lunardi has us, not just a 3 seed, but the second strongest three seed. How do the doom and gloomers on this site who are projecting a best case scenario of a six seed feel about this? Does it change any minds? I doubt it
 
Probably won't happen. Duke would have the one of easiest 4 seeds (for them) and the hardest 2 seed. Guess which one will be changed!
True.

The SC has so much flexibility with how they can set up the tourney, that they can justify almost anything. If they want to help Duke out, they have ways of doing that and saying that it was to “balance the brackets” or whatever.

I am still mad about how they set up the 2015 tourney. That was a travesty and it was setup to get Duke to the title game to play UK. Everyone knew the top four teams that year were UK, Wisconsin, Duke, and Arizona. But instead of seeding them that way, they manipulated the bracket to give Duke an easier path to the title. They were afraid that if they put Wisconsin on the same side as Duke, the Devils might not make it to the title game to play UK. They wanted that title game matchup for ratings and were afraid that Wisconsin would mess it up. They did anyway, but it was at our expense.
 
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ESPN article talks about Cheats 4 game win streak, 3 have losing records and are in the hundreds. Their best win in the streak 90th 16-12 FLST🤡🤡🤡

They have 1 Quad 1 win, ONE!!! and a Quad 3 loss to boot. The other team they have in Wake has 2 Quad 1 wins and a Quad 3 loss.

If they put 5 ACC teams in it will be a disgrace. Especially if anything less than 13 SEC schools make it.
 
How is St Johns that low? I do believe that everything now depends upon the rest of the season. History shows the conference tournaments don't really influence the seedings. But, there are always a few surprises in these conference tournaments that are won by a team not likely to be in otherwise and that knocks others out.
They have played 1 game against teams currently ranked in the top 25. I imagine their SOS is a reason why they are that low. Big east is relatively weak this year and none of the power teams on SJU OOC schedule have a winning record in their respective conference.
 
So Lunardi has us, not just a 3 seed, but the second strongest three seed. How do the doom and gloomers on this site who are projecting a best case scenario of a six seed feel about this? Does it change any minds? I doubt it
I stated in the other thread, UK is a 3 and SHOULD remain one. Going 2-2 will do it. CANNOT lose at home to LSU. That is about the only way to guarantee not getting a 3 seed. Call me crazy, but somehow go 4-0, a 2 seed is POSSIBLE. Would need some help, but doable. UT and Florida have a VERY tough schedule remaining.
Tenn. - @LSU / @ Ole Miss
Florida - @ Georgia / Texas A&M / @ Bama / Ole Miss
Iowa State - Arizona / BYU (Just won @ Arizona Saturday) / @ Kansas State (been playing well lately, and are at home.
Arizona - @ Iowa State / @ Kansas
Michigan State - @ Maryland / Wisconsin / Michigan
Wisconsin - @ Michigan State / @ Minnesota
Texas Tech - @ Kansas
St. Johns - @ Butler / @ Marquette

So teams above and behind UK will lose some games. UK has to win the games they are suppose to and beat Auburn at home and Mizzou on the road. 2-2 remain a 3 seed, 4-0 MAYBE a 2 seed.
 
This is the guy I trust more than anyone out there he has Kentucky #11

Updated: February 25, 2025


Seeds 1-24Seeds 25-50Seeds 51-68First 4 OUT
1) Auburn25) Ole Miss51) ChattanoogaOhio State
2) Duke26) UCLA52) AkronWake Forest
3) Alabama27) Saint Mary’s53) High PointCincinnati
4) Houston28) Louisville54) Jacksonville StNorth Carolina
5) Florida29) Creighton55) Utah ValleyNext 4 OUT
6) Tennessee30) BYU56) LipscombBoise State
7) Iowa State31) New Mexico57) Ja MadisonSMU
8) Michigan St32) Illinois58) MontanaGeorgia
9) Texas AM33) Connecticut59) TowsonSan Francisco
10) Wisconsin34) Utah State60) Rob Morris
11) Kentucky35) Gonzaga61) Cent ConnNext In Line
12) Texas Tech36) Nebraska62) Norfolk StVillanova
13) Michigan37) West Virginia63) OmahaGeorge Mason
14) St. John’s38) Oklahoma64) MaristTCU
15) Arizona39) Texas65) BryantColorado State
16) Purdue40) Vanderbilt66) SE MissouriPittsburgh
17) Missouri41) Baylor67) Southern
18) Marquette42) San Diego St68) American
19) Oregon43) Arkansas
20) Maryland44) Indiana
21) Miss State45) VCU
22) Kansas46) Xavier
23) Memphis47) Drake
24) Clemson48) UC-San Diego
49) McNeese
50) Yale
 
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This is the guy I trust more than anyone out there he has Kentucky #11

Updated: February 25, 2025


Seeds 1-24Seeds 25-50Seeds 51-68First 4 OUT
1) Auburn25) Ole Miss51) ChattanoogaOhio State
2) Duke26) UCLA52) AkronWake Forest
3) Alabama27) Saint Mary’s53) High PointCincinnati
4) Houston28) Louisville54) Jacksonville StNorth Carolina
5) Florida29) Creighton55) Utah ValleyNext 4 OUT
6) Tennessee30) BYU56) LipscombBoise State
7) Iowa State31) New Mexico57) Ja MadisonSMU
8) Michigan St32) Illinois58) MontanaGeorgia
9) Texas AM33) Connecticut59) TowsonSan Francisco
10) Wisconsin34) Utah State60) Rob Morris
11) Kentucky35) Gonzaga61) Cent ConnNext In Line
12) Texas Tech36) Nebraska62) Norfolk StVillanova
13) Michigan37) West Virginia63) OmahaGeorge Mason
14) St. John’s38) Oklahoma64) MaristTCU
15) Arizona39) Texas65) BryantColorado State
16) Purdue40) Vanderbilt66) SE MissouriPittsburgh
17) Missouri41) Baylor67) Southern
18) Marquette42) San Diego St68) American
19) Oregon43) Arkansas
20) Maryland44) Indiana
21) Miss State45) VCU
22) Kansas46) Xavier
23) Memphis47) Drake
24) Clemson48) UC-San Diego
49) McNeese
50) Yale
Love it. Maybe now we can stop with the “no way Kentucky can get a three seed” nonsense. It won’t be easy but it can be done
 
Love it. Maybe now we can stop with the “no way Kentucky can get a three seed” nonsense. It won’t be easy but it can be done
My guess is we need to win 3 out of our last 4 and win the 1st SEC tournament game to get a 3 seed.

Anything less and well it feels kind of doubtful and more like a 4 seed.

If we go 1-3 and then lose that SEC opener.......well then poo
 
My guess is we need to win 3 out of our last 4 and win the 1st SEC tournament game to get a 3 seed.

Anything less and well it feels kind of doubtful and more like a 4 seed.

If we go 1-3 and then lose that SEC opener.......well then poo
Win tomorrow or there is no 3 seed period imo.

If you win tomorrow and beat LSU, a 3 seed is possible but you need help from other schools who would have to fail to move up.

On the other hand, win 3 of 4 and you have a 3 seed.

Go 2-2 but win three games in the SECT and you get a 3 seed.

There are multiple ways for us to get a three seed right now in my view
 
My guess is we need to win 3 out of our last 4 and win the 1st SEC tournament game to get a 3 seed.

Anything less and well it feels kind of doubtful and more like a 4 seed.

If we go 1-3 and then lose that SEC opener.......well then poo
But you have to take into account that all the others we are fighting with for a 3, are also going to lose games and some might lose to weaker opponents.
 
So Lunardi has us, not just a 3 seed, but the second strongest three seed. How do the doom and gloomers on this site who are projecting a best case scenario of a six seed feel about this? Does it change any minds? I doubt it

That was a best case scenario IF we lost out. that's a very very important distinction you're leaving out. They have us as a 3-seed now, and BM has us dangerously close to falling to a 4-seed, and that's after going 1-1 this week. I have to believe if we went 0-2 this week, we'd be firmly on the 4-seed line for right now.

I do think if we can get one more win, maybe two, we should be safe and get a 3-seed. But if we lost out from here, and lost in the opening of the SECT, I just don't see our metrics being good enough (SEC or not) to warrant a 3-seed and maybe not even a 4-seed.
 
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That was a best case scenario IF we lost out. that's a very very important distinction you're leaving out. They have us as a 3-seed now, and BM has us dangerously close to falling to a 4-seed, and that's after going 1-1 this week. I have to believe if we went 0-2 this week, we'd be firmly on the 4-seed line for right now.

I do think if we can get one more win, maybe two, we should be safe and get a 3-seed. But if we lost out from here, and lost in the opening of the SECT, I just don't see our metrics being good enough (SEC or not) to warrant a 3-seed and maybe not even a 4-seed.
Think we can agree tomorrow is massive.
 
Think we can agree tomorrow is massive.

It is.. assuming Auburn and Mizz are maybe just too far out of reach for where the team is right now with injuries.

But.. it sounds like we will get Butler back in a week and maybe even Jrob for that final Mizz game.. so if that happens, I like our chances much more for potentially stealing a game from Mizz or even Auburn (although Auburn is gonna be tough no matter what).

Im just glad we got Vandy. That will go a long way in keeping us in a 5-seed and up range. Because had we lost that game, we would then HAVE to win some of these upcoming games or we would be looking at the potential of a 6-seed.
 
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It is.. assuming Auburn and Mizz are maybe just too far out of reach for where the team is right now with injuries.

But.. it sounds like we will get Butler back in a week and maybe even Jrob for that final Mizz game.. so if that happens, I like our chances much more for potentially stealing a game from Mizz or even Auburn (although Auburn is gonna be tough no matter what).

Im just glad we got Vandy. That will go a long way in keeping us in a 5-seed and up range. Because had we lost that game, we would then HAVE to win some of these upcoming games or we would be looking at the potential of a 6-seed.
If we can get healthy and win 3 games at SECT, that would almost certainly get us a 3 seed though. It isn’t just what we do in the next 4 games. I will say if you don’t win tomorrow we will be a 4 seed regardless imo.
 
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