UK offers Caleb Wilson over a million bucks

[smallmouthhog]

I wonder what the ROI is for Tyson down here with the Cal hiring? Tyson got alot of TV time because he ws the man that got Cal hired.
What he gives Cal for NIL money wont be missed by him or his family. Pocket change for them. I know you cant put a number on it but he got alot of free advertising and still does.

 

[yoshukai]

I wouldn’t be too worried about guys being overpaid in a scenario where everyone is essentially on a one year deal. This isn’t like pro contracts where you are counting on the front end of the deal being good value and the back end is likely to be crap.

Kentucky basketball is very well positioned right now. Maybe down the road a school like Texas will be outbidding everyone like the Steinbrenner Yankees, but that isn’t happening now. For now we are one of only a few Yankees. It’s a good place to be.

Arkansas is trying to do that right now.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

That itself won’t happen but that’s an intriguing idea about multi-year contracts. If a top 20-30 kid looks like a 2-year player for example, could they offer him like 1.2 million over 2 years and he’d have to pay back the 1st 600k if he enters the draft or transfers after 1?

No guy is gonna sign that dumb contract that can get several million n year 1 of nba after 1 year in college.

Unless the school puts in the contract they will pony up to Match lost wages in year 2.

 

[Catluv]

Remember, these million dollar offers Coach Pope is throwing around all started in the late 80’s when that bogus package of $1500 (15 HUNDRED 😩) “popped open” at that DSL facility that was addressed

No Chris Mills, no Eddie Sutton leaving.
No Eddie Sutton leaving, no Rick Pitino.
No Rick Pitino, no NC Capt. Mark Pope, and the rest as they say, is history 😂

Emery was were it “popped open”! Later that same facility had a guy shipping tons of steroids out of there. Kinda made me wonder if something fishy went on there!!

 

[YardCat]

$7 mil and he'll be "injured" by January 1st...

Hope he picks Arkansas and sits out until he declares his decision to leave for the NBA and shows crazy athleticism in workouts. Cal is so excited about going to the Green Room again!

 

[true blue1]

I think Wilson is a top 5 talent in this class and it’s loaded. I hope we land him but it’s not a sure thing we do.

 

[LmdCat]

I'm just glad I was able to live in a time when kids picked a school because of the coaching. The 1990s was certainly reflective of that value.

It's over now. You have to buy a title.

I'm just glad I was able to live in a time when kids picked a school because of the coaching. The 1990s was certainly reflective of that value.

It's over now. You have to buy a title.

The only difference between now and then is it is legal now and it wasn't back in the day. Because it is now legal, the players are able to get advice to ensure that they are getting true market value. This upsets some coaches because there is less money for them.

 

[Wonky]

I wonder what the ROI is for Tyson down here with the Cal hiring? Tyson got alot of TV time because he ws the man that got Cal hired. I know you cant put a number on it but he got alot of free advertising and still does.

Advertising is all he got.

 

[jrpross]

No guy is gonna sign that dumb contract that can get several million n year 1 of nba after 1 year in college.

Unless the school puts in the contract they will pony up to Match lost wages in year 2.

I’m not talking about those guys. A top 10 kid that wants to be OAD is gonna do his year and be gone. I’m talking about the kids that everybody feels will need a couple years. An extra incentive like that might keep him around if he might otherwise have bolted, even when projected late 2nd round or whatever.

Just spitballing here. Believe me I haven’t put lots of thought into it.

 

[PopesReignOverCardinals]

I’m not talking about those guys. A top 10 kid that wants to be OAD is gonna do his year and be gone. I’m talking about the kids that everybody feels will need a couple years. An extra incentive like that might keep him around if he might otherwise have bolted, even when projected late 2nd round or whatever.

Just spitballing here. Believe me I haven’t put lots of thought into it.

Trying to do something like that would be a bad look for the school imo, especially if you are wanting them to pay back money that they already earned. You also wouldn't want to make a player feel like they are being forced to stay over a contractual stipulation. A second year could backfire in a major way if the player isn't good enough or if he is a team cancer over a contract disagreement.

 

[Fox2monk]

I wonder what the ROI is for Tyson down here with the Cal hiring? Tyson got alot of TV time because he ws the man that got Cal hired.
What he gives Cal for NIL money wont be missed by him or his family. Pocket change for them. I know you cant put a number on it but he got alot of free advertising and still does.

I don’t know, but no amount of ROI will keep Cal from choking in March. His butt puckers up tighter than a felon who drops the soap his first night in the pen.

 

[Fox2monk]

No guy is gonna sign that dumb contract that can get several million n year 1 of nba after 1 year in college.

Unless the school puts in the contract they will pony up to Match lost wages in year 2.

Maybe not, but up front it is a good deal for them and they lose nothing if they turn pro after a year. Just structure the payment in 2 year increments. He won’t get paid for year 2 unless he stays and owes nothing if he leaves. Fringe guys get guaranteed money if they wanna develop.

 

[Fox2monk]

If any kid gets a Million dollars to play for any school they should sign a contract for 4 years and the money be put in a trust fund and if they leave before the 4 years are up they only get part of the money. I know that will never happen but changes have to be made .

It should at least be an option. Kids would be smart, especially the ones with a limited pro career to have some of that money to fall back on after graduation. It would be a nice chunk to start their life with rather than blowing it on an expensive car and stuff while in college.

 

[Fox2monk]

I still don’t see how this current model is sustainable, but it’s the state of affairs for college sports. I wonder when we’ll get our first college lockout where teams refuse to play.

I don’t even wanna think about allowing a CBA union in college. Please no, but it’s gonna happen isn’t it?

 

[westerncat]

I do t even wanna think about allowing a CBA union in college. Please no, but it’s gonna happen isn’t it?

Would not be surprised to see that happen. I am afraid that CBB is on it's way out as we know it.

 

[TFCats11]

Emery was were it “popped open”! Later that same facility had a guy shipping tons of steroids out of there. Kinda made me wonder if something fishy went on there!!

Aw yes, Emery. My bad!

 

[KAB Cats]

I wonder what the ROI is for Tyson down here with the Cal hiring? Tyson got alot of TV time because he ws the man that got Cal hired.
What he gives Cal for NIL money wont be missed by him or his family. Pocket change for them. I know you cant put a number on it but he got alot of free advertising and still does.

I'm sure Tyson food oligarchs would like to give the impression they are donating for their love of Arkansas sports, but I'd consider them closer to Saudi Arabia throwing a cool billion at Ronaldo. Their ROI isn't monetary. Basically, they are winning the good graces of the community and associating Tyson chicken with something like basketball instead of their factory farms that slaughter animals in generally horrific conditions.

 

[thebluestripes]

Wished elon musk was a uk fan

 

[travisbickle]

Maybe not, but up front it is a good deal for them and they lose nothing if they turn pro after a year. Just structure the payment in 2 year increments. He won’t get paid for year 2 unless he stays and owes nothing if he leaves. Fringe guys get guaranteed money if they wanna develop.

I think some schools are doing it this way already. Maybe I’m wrong but I seem to remember maybe the Florida football player got pissed because one of his payments didn’t go through. Which makes it sound like they are doing payments instead of a lump sum.

I agree about paying it out over increments and if they leave, no harm no foul and the NIL money is saved.

 

[NociHTTP]

Maybe not, but up front it is a good deal for them and they lose nothing if they turn pro after a year. Just structure the payment in 2 year increments. He won’t get paid for year 2 unless he stays and owes nothing if he leaves. Fringe guys get guaranteed money if they wanna develop.

Structure the contract so that they only get paid for the games they play in, and then by the minutes for each game. Superstar players should be playing in more games, and more minutes per game. They want to be paid like pro's, then they can be treated like pro's. The Shaedon Sharpe fiasco must NEVER, EVER happen again. Even if injuries prevent them from playing, only pay them according to contract. Way too many guys (even at UK) were milking the injury thing at Cal's blessing in order to not hurt their draft stock. That garbage has to stop.

 

[Fox2monk]

Structure the contract so that they only get paid for the games they play in, and then by the minutes for each game. Superstar players should be playing in more games, and more minutes per game. They want to be paid like pro's, then they can be treated like pro's. The Shaedon Sharpe fiasco must NEVER, EVER happen again. Even if injuries prevent them from playing, only pay them according to contract. Way too many guys (even at UK) were milking the injury thing at Cal's blessing in order to not hurt their draft stock. That garbage has to stop.

No way they would agree to minutes per game because that’s not up to the, and no pro contracts are setup like that.

 

[NociHTTP]

No way they would agree to minutes per game because that’s not up to the, and no pro contracts are setup like that.

Then how can they be held accountable for their end of the contract?

 

[bigbluedon]

I'm on a work meeting as we speak, with like 6 PMs babbling about something and providing no actual substance or value.

When I think about sports players making a ton of money, I'm at least GETTING something for it. My teams are better, I get to see them win, etc. And I often think about just how many other jobs are out there were people are making anywhere from $100k to $10m a year to do next to nothing. So it's hard for me to care that an 18-year old basketball player just made a few million.

Kinda strange but you are entitled to feeling that way.

 

[Rockfly78]

Shit did he take it???

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Kinda strange but you are entitled to feeling that way.

You can elaborate if you feel inclined.

I just never cared for the "omg look how much they make to play a game!" takes. I don't know why this bothers so many people.

Now I certainly don't think Dybantsa or whatever is worth 7 to 8mil. I don't think any freshman is worth that. But 1 mil for a top25 player, to come to a program we all think is above everyone else? And that we should always be competing for a title? Where's the problem?

 

[bigbluedon]

The only difference between now and then is it is legal now and it wasn't back in the day. Because it is now legal, the players are able to get advice to ensure that they are getting true market value. This upsets some coaches because there is less money for them.

There wasn’t near that kind of money being funneled back then. Not even close

 

[LineSkiCat14]

There wasn’t near that kind of money being funneled back then. Not even close

Factoring inflation, and the fact that "things" were given instead of hard cash, I bet it's closer than you think.

 

[CatFanInIlliniLand]

Name, image, and likeness, huh?

This was supposed to be for autograph signings at the mall.

Ed O’Bannon.

First, he ruined my college video games. Now, this.