Lol, too funny 😁 😂, take a wild guess why byu is a finalist and UK is not? Brilliant idea to just spend all our NIL on a couple of top recruits and maybe we can fill the rest with juco players or walkons. This actually speaks to what is most important to this kid, the bag. Great player, priority is the name on the back. This is actually the rumor on jasper, which I hope is not true. Another rumor is that acaden Lewis does not want to play with jasper. So pope has his hands full navigating this.
UK not on list of 7 for Dybantsa
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I'm glad we have a coach that can see this, and not one that wasn't concerned about player character or the makeup of the roster. If they're not here to bust their butts and WIN TITLES, then they shouldn't be here to make money, either.
UI am just glad several in this post are not managing a budget. Geez. Why would you shoot 60% or more of your nil budget on an 18 year old college kid. You don’t. Pretty simple
What crappy and typical reply. Glad to see you still post sh@t on this board just like you do on paid board
Ha ha. If you're going to be my mistress, you're going to have to display more moral fibre than that. I would kick you out of bed.
He’s not going to give a scholarship to any walk on unless he doesn’t plan to add another player. Then maybe give a kid or kids some help,
These tryouts are for walkons who can help in practice. Not on scholarship. Football uses a ton of them.
Please no more exclusive one and done mercenaries biding their 8 months here with their agents and posse with their hands out who don’t really care about the results for UK.
Get guys who care.
Get guys who care.
Personally, glad Pope told him thanks but no thanks. Paying this guy 2 to 3 million is crazy. Maybe Pope can land 2 for 3 very good players for that amount. This nil crap is ruining college sports. It's all about $. College is now the nba's minor league and the nba isn't basketball. Just watch the Olympics and that lousy display. I hope at least Pope's team shows fundamentals, screens, running plays and defensive schemes
Spend majority NIL money on one player or spread it out amongst 5-7 yeah I prefer the latter. Some of y'all need to update your headspace in how recruiting is being done in the current era.
I’ve still yet to see anything that makes me think Pope gets a second contract at UK. Guy just ain’t cutting it in recruiting (to win at the level UK requires) and it won’t matter how good he coaches or what his system is when the roster is what you’d see at a mid to upper mid level SEC school. Feels like we’ve gone from one extreme to the other. From a coach that could recruiting but was the worst coach in the country to a guy that can coach but isn’t a good recruiter. Looking at all the “top guys” that UK is recruiting, I don’t know that we will get any. The one that might possibly come is mainly due to family ties.
When it’s a player like AJ, who is basically can’t miss, I’d much rather spend 2M there than using it to bring in 4-5 transfers from Poop State University.
When it’s a player like AJ, who is basically can’t miss, I’d much rather spend 2M there than using it to bring in 4-5 transfers from Poop State University.
This. Im glad cal u is gone but you cant suddenly be ok recruiting like a mid major.
Maybe things will change after we hopefully see a good product and some people put in the league, but lack of recruiting foundation was my exact reason for concern with the hire way back when it was made. I thought ab3 would cure the ailment, and im sure he helps, but apparently it will take more.
I remember this common complaint was addressed by media people by saying "oh he had limitations on him at byu". Funny it doesn't seem to be limiting the new guy. So who was limiting whom in recruiting?
And here comes the “fans” that turn every thread into a Cal bashing opportunity. Simple minds….
But did we know AD and Zion were going to be AD and Zion when they came out of HS? It's too hard to predict at this point so I say work with the bag you get and if you feel you can get 2-3 high level proven transfers that fill a specific need vs tie up a lot of NIL on a "can't miss..hopefully" FR, I'm not mad at you.
I didn’t expect to land generational talent until the basketball world sees what Pope can/can’t do on the court
This would be far more concerning 2 years from now
While we do have more NIL money than previously, it still isn’t where it should be, and I don’t think it will be until there’s a product on the floor that will warrant it.
I believe CMP knows this and is right now budgeting NIL funds. He starts winning and going deep in March…I think that’ll change
It’s far too early to say CMP can or cannot recruit. The portal and NIL has really leveled the playing field
I personally am going to enjoy it unless and until there is reason not to
This would be far more concerning 2 years from now
While we do have more NIL money than previously, it still isn’t where it should be, and I don’t think it will be until there’s a product on the floor that will warrant it.
I believe CMP knows this and is right now budgeting NIL funds. He starts winning and going deep in March…I think that’ll change
It’s far too early to say CMP can or cannot recruit. The portal and NIL has really leveled the playing field
I personally am going to enjoy it unless and until there is reason not to
He’s in on a ton of good players and will get his share. It just won’t be 5 or 6 HS guys. Will be about 3 per year.
I think he will kill it at UK. Just has “it”
I agree, I'm equally outraged and concerned. His 0-0 record and 0 star recruits committed for next year speaks to this. Facts are facts. Plus, I think the max time to gauge pope is 6 months. No way we give him a few years, that is laughable.
I agree somewhat but in their defense not all coaches are equal. Some are better at helping freshman that struggle. I say all that to say it wasn’t all just the player. There has to be some responsibility on the coaching staff for underachieving or not developing star freshman properly.
Don't think UK will ever have a great nil fund. Not unless former athletes donate. Just not enough large profitable industries in the state.
It's way to early for anyone to say Pope can or can't recruit at a high level. Cal has had the #1 or #2 class what 15 years in a row. We have one title with 5 straight first round exits. Pope did a hell of a job in the xfer portal in a very short amount of time and his 3 recruits are probably gonna be 3 or 4 year players to build a foundation for years to come. Pope is not going to just recruit the best 4 or 5 five star recruits and then figure it out like our previous coach. Pope is going to target recruits he thinks that we need frosh or xfer portal to fill a need we have on the roster. I don't think he will rely solely on a couple of 5 star frosh to win. He's gonna get players back, xfer portal players and probably target certain frosh he needs or would excel in his system whether they are 4 or 5 stars it matters not. It's all about team success and fit.
And if that's the case (I think you're right unfortunately), then I HOPE that people will not think Pope can't recruit, when it was just a matter of players wanting better money elsewhere.
And things could be WAY different in two years than they are now. There might even be a better solution than players just going to the teams with the most NIL. Fingers crossed.
You are not getting it. No one tells talent like this "no, thanks". You have to be so daft to convince yourself of that. It's really quite amazing. If some booster was willing to fork over the cash, your tune would be far different. You act like it's your f'ng money. GTFO
Yes. Especially zion. Zion was the most cant miss prospect in forever.
Again im glad we're no long cal u but we cant go to the other end of the spectrum where we're just completely irrelevant in recruiting.
Ya but Zion was packaged with the number 1 and 3 recruits (yes - you read that right, the top THREE recruits!) and they lost in the elite eight and frankly it was a miracle they even made it that far. So, like, what are we even arguing?
I agree. In fact back then i used to post semi rants about how duke and k were cheating with details. That said, the results are separate from the performance. Zion was a force of nature in college. I hate it but its true. Its incredible they lost but indeed they did.
All that said, in fine with being transfer kings with the occasional talented freshman. We just cant be irrelevant yet that feels like where we are.
Skip Bayless, that you? I’ve read some baseless emotional knee jerk reactions on here but sheesh. How about relax and watch one game?
The on court product and the recruiting world are not the same. Results matter. Not being top 7 is concerning for a guy you legit pushed for. Not one of those times our hat was on the table to get clicks....but legitimately pushed for.
We lost out on this one single recruit. But saying we’re currently looking irrelevant when we’ve had our current coach for 3 months and put together a very solid roster from scratch including Jaxson Robinson who was very heavily wanted and played for BYU (who’s on AJs list) and Koby Brea who was pursued by all the blue bloods among others is a bit much imo
It's hilarious that you people are still worried about recruiting ability. Today it's about your ability to hand over a big enough bag. It's not totally unimportant but it's been severely marginalized. Pope could be the best recruiter in the country but if he gets the same support from boosters Cal did, the results are still going to be worse because Pope isn't Cal.
This is a result of the prior administration not being able to win without the big 5☆.
Oakland didn't need any to beat ours.
I think the new plan will be OK.
I disagree. He wasn't even the top rated recruit in his class. He was an athletic freak of nature that I recall had ppl wondering if he was tweener.
Regardless, dropping out of the Dybantsa recruitment doesn't mean Pope isn't targeting 5 stars who can help. Duke and Arkansas are also out so there's more to the $tory.
If you can't agree Zion was a generational cbb recruit then idk what to tell you.
Targeting isn't the problem. We targeted him.
Transfer portal is entirely different. We're doing fine there. Idc about missing him necessarily. Its not being top 7 is what's alarming.
A lot of revisionist history here. Coming out of HS, a lot folks thought RJ Barrett was the better prospect. Zion wasn't even the number 1 ranked recruit in his class. Yet you think it was universally known he was going to be a generational talent?
It isn't. Everyone thought they both were. Zion was a transcendent recruit. Massive social media following and jaw dropping athleticism.
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