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UF safety blatantly pushed Timmons down on Towles' last pass

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Just watched The Mark Stoops' Show and they have a great angle of the UF safety coming over and just shoving Timmons to the ground. Of course, with SEC refs, UK never gets that call except maybe against Vandy. Refs made a number of similarly bad calls UF's way.
 
Yep he started blocking for the return before the ball had even gotten close. He puts his hand on Timmons chest and pushes him down while the balls in the air. On one hand, 4th and 20 something with the game on the line against anyone the refs aren't likely to make that call.
 
I don't know if ours are as bad as acc refs but there is room for significant improvement. I was at the game and couldn't hear but what was the call on what appeared to be roughing the kicker. Third quarter I think.
Running into the kicker, not roughing. On TV the Gator tried to catch the punter as he was calling and he didn't hit the leg so thats likely why we didn't get the roughing call.
 
Yep he started blocking for the return before the ball had even gotten close. He puts his hand on Timmons chest and pushes him down while the balls in the air. On one hand, 4th and 20 something with the game on the line against anyone the refs aren't likely to make that call.

Historically, that call is made against the Cats.
 
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The running into the kicker penalty was the correct call and it wasn't all that close. Roughing is when you run through the kicker. He was just bumped and not even that hard. Should have been 5 yards and it was.
 
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Let's be honest...if UF were in 4 and 27 and a pass interfence on UK was called on that final play...we'd all be incensed. Timmons sort of didn't fight back to the ball and maybe acted a bit...but I had no problem with non call on last pass of the game.
 
Yeah, Timmons didn't even try to make a play on the ball. Why he's not looking back for the pass there is beyond me.
 
The problem was that the ball was thrown behind Timmons. Had he been led he might have made the catch.
 
The first miss by Baker in the end zone, Hargreaves did not look back and just ran into Baker (or as Jesse Palmer said, "just kind of got his feet tangled up" -- Jesse should not call UF games), but there was no call where there is almost always a call. Headshakers.
 
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The running into the kicker penalty was the correct call and it wasn't all that close. Roughing is when you run through the kicker. He was just bumped and not even that hard. Should have been 5 yards and it was.

This is an opinion seen through a certain lens. The play is deceptive because the kid attempted to catch Foster. But, he squarely hit Foster much harder than many do when theybcatch a kicker's leg and knock him to the ground and gets the roughing call. Stoops had good reason to complain.
 
The problem was that the ball was thrown behind Timmons. Had he been led he might have made the catch.

Sometimes throwing behind WRs aren't a bad thing on deep passes. I just question why a 5'10 WR was on the outside. Maybe I'm wrong here, but seems like we should have Bone on one side and Baker on the other. Let them go up and get it.
 
It was a blatant push, and it wasn't called. Guarantee if it were Florida trying to come back down 19-14, they make the call. We got absolutely zero breaks from the zebras on our home field last night; in fact, we got a very poor whistle.
 
I have always hated the argument of "that's okay in the last seconds". If something is illegal in the first 10 seconds of a game it is illegal in the last 10 seconds and should be called. Time and score should not dictate what is and what is not a violation.
Exactly.
 
The ball was 5 yds under thrown
That play was down toward where I sit (6 rows up), and it was not 5 yards underthrown. Please do not make such silly comments. It was pass interference, but not called.
 
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That play was down toward where I sit (6 rows up), and it was not 5 yards underthrown. Please do not make such silly comments. It was pass interference, but not called.

100% accurate. It was a well-thrown ball and was pretty much a 50/50 ball if our receiver had not been shoved to the ground. Given that it was 4th and 22, we got about as good a play as you can expect to get in terms of trying to extend the game.
 
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Agreed pass was under thrown but if your Timmons and other receivers you gotta fight more to get to the ball or cut back under and run into defender more. Last year Bone had a play or two where if he is more aggressive even though probably wouldn't catch it make it a more collision might get the call
 
Let's be honest...if UF were in 4 and 27 and a pass interfence on UK was called on that final play...we'd all be incensed. Timmons sort of didn't fight back to the ball and maybe acted a bit...but I had no problem with non call on last pass of the game.
That exact scenario played out against Tennessee back in 2002, and the refs called it against UK. And if the rolls were flipped in this game I would have expected the call against us.
 
It was a blatant push, and it wasn't called. Guarantee if it were Florida trying to come back down 19-14, they make the call. We got absolutely zero breaks from the zebras on our home field last night; in fact, we got a very poor whistle.

UK is one of the only teams in basketball and football that never get "home cooking" from refs when they play at home.
 
The problem was not personnel. It was not a problem to have Timmons out there instead of Bone. Timmons can EASILY outrun the 2 UF defenders, and he did. The problem was the same as it was the entire game, Towels threw it short. If Towels throws that out in front and lets him run to it, its a score. And no, it should not have been Pass interference, because it was thrown so short, it was not going to be caught. I watched the tape 4 times, the Oline. the receivers, and towels played bad. But, if you get a scale out, and stack marbles for each bad play, Towels had the most. He missed 5 bunny pass (layups) in the 1st half, 7 in the second, including 3 on the last drive.

But, all in all, if Baker catches the ball that was literally hand deliver to his chest and hands, we win. Whatever, games over, time to move on.
 
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The problem was not personnel. It was not a problem to have Timmons out there instead of Bone. Timmons can EASILY outrun the 2 UF defenders, and he did. The problem was the same as it was the entire game, Towels threw it short. If Towels throws that out in front and lets him run to it, its a score. And no, it should not have been Pass interference, because it was thrown so short, it was not going to be caught. I watched the tape 4 times, the Oline. the receivers, and towels played bad. But, if you get a scale out, and stack marbles for each bad play, Towels had the most. He missed 5 bunny pass (layups) in the 1st half, 7 in the second, including 3 on the last drive.

But, all in all, if Baker catches the ball that was literally hand deliver to his chest and hands, we win. Whatever, games over, time to move on.

The 3rd down sack of Towles hurt really bad, and the 5-yard illegal procedure penalty was the absolute correct call but was salt in the wound. If Towles throws that ball away, we're looking at 4th and 10 instead of 4th and 27. Here I go, playing the if'n game again . . .
 
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Pass interference should have been called. It was a flat out push by the defender while the ball was in the air and Timmons was in position to make a play back toward the ball. This wasn't a case of incidental contact or two players working toward the ball. The defender made no play on the ball whatsoever, he just pushed the receiver down. I have no idea how a ref can miss that call.
 
I would agree that it was a call that could have been made - but usually does not in that situation, regardless of the teams. There were a lot of missed calls from that side judge on that side of the field - Baker tackled the CB on PT's long run and nothing was called. That guy was terrible both ways most of the night.
 
It was a call that should have been made and if it was reversed and Florida needed a score to win, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED. It's sad that the refs don't even give us respect and I'm sick and tired of it. It was an easy call. You can't freakin do that. I wanted to rush the field and grab a ref by his gonads. But being the civilized person I am I just yelled a stream of 4 letter words. :sunglasses:
 
I was sitting on that sideline about 20 yards away from that play and it looked like an obvious pass interference call at the time. I will say that seeing the view from the press box side on the replay that it did not look as blatant. I think you could argue how hard he actually shoved Timmons, but his hands were definitely on his chest and aided in Timmons losing his balance and not being able to come back to the ball. We should have gotten the call.
 
Agree that I would want that type of pass thrown up to Bone or Baker. Much better chance of outfighting the D for the ball.
No idea if it was PI. Looked like it from the stands. But the 4th down play wasn't the issue - it was 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
 
Let's be honest...if UF were in 4 and 27 and a pass interfence on UK was called on that final play...we'd all be incensed. Timmons sort of didn't fight back to the ball and maybe acted a bit...but I had no problem with non call on last pass of the game.

Yeah, Timmons didn't even try to make a play on the ball. Why he's not looking back for the pass there is beyond me.

Exactly. It should have been pass interference. But Timmons didnt get the call because he put up such a pitiful fight.

The problem was that the ball was thrown behind Timmons. Had he been led he might have made the catch.

It was definitely underthrown, although I see some posters say otherwise. If it had been thrown accurately, Timmons gets a big gain because he was behind the D.

The first miss by Baker in the end zone, Hargreaves did not look back and just ran into Baker (or as Jesse Palmer said, "just kind of got his feet tangled up" -- Jesse should not call UF games), but there was no call where there is almost always a call. Headshakers.

Palmer was practically cheerleading for Spurrier and UF. Guys definitely not objective.
 
Wasn't it last year they had Palmer and Tebow in the press box together during the game? Was Danny Wuerffel not available?
 
Your looking for the refs to bail us out on a piss poor hail mary pass. Get upset with me if you want but timmons was not going to out compete two UF db's for the ball. Get over it!
 
Your looking for the refs to bail us out on a piss poor hail mary pass. Get upset with me if you want but timmons was not going to out compete two UF db's for the ball. Get over it!
It's not about whether or not he would have caught the ball if he had not been pushed. It is as simple as this...by definition of the rule, not considering anything else, was it a violation? I believe it was. If so, it should have been called whether he would have caught it or not...no matter what the time on the clock or the score or down and distance...whether he fought hard enough to try to get the call or not. Based solely on what DID happen, that was pass interference and should have been called.
 
No doubt they usually believe that. But they're usually wrong. Our fans aren't.

No doubt they believe that as well......

Everyone thinks that calls made in favor of their team were amazing displays of referee skill and calls against are proof of a massive conspiracy.

I've always chosen to believe that officials are just human and make mistakes.....just seems too childlike to scream "they're cheating us" all of the time.
 
Looking at this play on replay right this very moment.

1. Timmons is not in any way behind the defense. The Florida defensive back is still 2-3 yards ahead of him.
2. The ball is underthrown.
3. Timmons turns and looks for the ball.
4. Timmons turns to come back to the ball.
5. The Florida safety puts 2 hands on him and prevents him from coming back to the ball. He gets uses the hands to get in front of him and prevent him from coming back to the ball.
 
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It probably should have been called. I think it should have been. Would it have mattered on who won the game? I'd say 99.99% chance no.
 
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