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Tulane would beat Kentucky worse than Vanderbilt beat Kentucky.
It’s time to bring Sumrall home where he belongs.
It’s time to bring Sumrall home where he belongs.
The future of college bowl games. Good teams lose key players to the portal and then look terrible. There has to be changes to the portal rules.
Tulane's 3000 yd QB did not play in the game, already transferred to Duke.
Why would any coach develop a player only to have them be bought out the next season by another team?
The legend Jon Sumrall...largely overexaggerated.
Florida completely turning around their season and program under Napier is impressive though.
Florida completely turning around their season and program under Napier is impressive though.
Nah. Too harsh.
Can’t judge on this game without his standout qb. Overall record is outstanding and is a National Champ.
Tulane vs Fla is never a fair fight.
Sumrall is the real deal.
While Sumrall would be a vast improvement over Stoops, I personally think we can go get a better candidate.
in fairness, the turnaround is due to 3-4 players, mostly true freshman. I'd contend the turnaround is due to NIL and not sunbelt billy. JMO.
But I liked Ware's comment at the end ... if a player transfers, then they lose a year of eligibility. Simple solution. Two ways that could be implemented. First, as it used to be and second, say a player transfers after he plays in 24, he plays in 25 and has one more year remaining. If he transfers again, then he is out. So basically one "freebie" transfer. Now if he redshirts in 24 and transfers, then he comes in as a sophomore. If he transfers again, he is a final year junior. I know people will hate that, but I like it ... maybe would stop this insanity. The current system is worse than the pros because every player is a FA every single year. At least the pros can sign contracts for a few years.
This would probably be collusion in violation of antitrust statutes. It would benefit member institutions and limit the freedom of movement of players. NCAA athletes do not have a collective bargaining agreement like the NFL.
That’s never going to happen. It would 100% go against the court ruling.
It's a power 2. Acc and big 12 are midmajor conferences by comparison.
Like I said, it is no better than a semi-pro league then. Schools should use 2 or 3 year contracts for NIL.
I am not a Stoops fan, but I don’t understand the obsession with Sumrall. He is literally just Stoops but younger, with pretty much of most the same problems. I’d rather swing for the fences on a new coach than take a walk.
Do court rulings mean anything anymore? The Supreme Court told O’Biden he couldn’t continue with student debt forgiveness but he’s doing it anyway and nobody is doing anything about it. Why can’t the NCAA snub their nose as well?
So. The back up played in 11 games this year and was very solid. Florida had some key defensive players out and a couple offensive. They straight up boat raced Tulane. They could have played 2 QBs at the same time and it would not have mattered. Tulane is lucky Florida kicked 3 FGs in the 1st half and DJ threw two picks or it would have been 30/35 - 0 at the half. BOTH games last night was complete mismatches.
Kentucky needs a coach who is an offense play caller so that at least the offense can be consistent from year to year in spite of the movement of coordinators. Sumrall is a good coach but does not run an offense. Someone like Stein from Oregon would likely be a better answer . Even the younger Brohm would make more sense 
I’m a huge Sumrall fan….but the end of this year has to give you a little pause.
Sumrall's team has really looked bad the last 3 games. Not sure he is the answer to fix our problems.
It’s more about an offensive philosophy to me. You don’t have to have a HC with a background on the offensive side of the ball, but they need to embrace an offensive philosophy that can put points on the board, setting themselves up for a sustainable offense when coordinators move on as you mention.Kentucky needs a coach who is an offense play caller so that at least the offense can be consistent from year to year in spite of the movement of coordinators. Sumrall is a good coach but does not run an offense. Someone like Stein from Oregon would likely be a better answer . Even the younger Brohm would make more sense
Dan Lanning and Kirby Smart are 1-2 right now and both were DC’s. Saban was a defensive guy and finally changed his mindset on offense and did it through multiple coordinators.
Stein and Brain Brohm have no HC experience.Kentucky needs a coach who is an offense play caller so that at least the offense can be consistent from year to year in spite of the movement of coordinators. Sumrall is a good coach but does not run an offense. Someone like Stein from Oregon would likely be a better answer . Even the younger Brohm would make more sense
Neither did Stoops, at the time we hired him, but he was a good hire. Was, anyway. Realistically, a non blueblood program like ours will rarely be able to attract a top head coach at a P4 level, so it's usually either a top head coach at a midmajor level or a top coordinator at the P4 level. The success rate for either option is about even.
And remember Bear Bryant said it best. If you have two QB on a team trying to start then you have no QB on the team
He had 5 star QB’s before the change too. It’s more to point out even a defensive minded coach like Saban changed. He was a run it between the tackles, drop back pass offense before he figured out it wasn’t going to win in college football in the future. Lots of articles about his shift from a clock management offense depending on his defense to opening it up. He adapted to stay on top. Here is a bit from an article:
The five-year tenure of Hugh Freeze as Ole Miss’ coach, which included back-to-back wins over Saban in 2014 and 2015, has been referenced multiple times by the Alabama coach as a key turning point in his thinking.
“We were struggling with pace of play, we were struggling with RPOs, we were struggling with sort of this new age of football,” Saban said last October. “That’s when we started to figure out, hey, if you can’t beat them, you got to join them.”
What was once a methodical offense featuring between-the-tackles running and drop-back passing morphed into a high-flying juggernaut that brushed perfection in 2020 while rewritingAlabama’s record books.
I always say something similar about the Reds. There are opening day starters and there are starters who pitch opening day.
Did anyone really expect a team from a glorified CUSA conference to compete with any level of an SEC school? The talent gap between the SEC and big 12 is not small, but the gap between the SEC and a lower conference is massive, especially by bowl time.
Some of us should think about that since we are adding a whole crap ton of players from these lower end conferences to our roster next year.
Some of us should think about that since we are adding a whole crap ton of players from these lower end conferences to our roster next year.
Yeah but we aren't plucking a bunch off from one specific team. Every school has atleast a few guys who can play. Just look how many guys from small schools get drafted every year.
Yeah but it's not likely to work because these are players the better sec programs didn't want.
There is a plucking order, and we are near the bottom. I also don't trust our talent evaluation or the people who will decide what to do with them when they get here.
He's the brainfardt / stoops fanboys replacement of choice so that's who it will be when the time comes, unless the AD is ran out of town after Arkansas kills us in basketball and the fb team goes 2-10 next year.
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