Honestly at this point nothing surprises meHe might have been playing UK and BYU to get more money from Tenn.
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Honestly at this point nothing surprises meHe might have been playing UK and BYU to get more money from Tenn.
I don’t think this roster is close to those teams, talent wise. But, I could see them making a Sweet 16-Elite 8 run with what we have right now. Maybe even a FF. There is no question that adding a big time player would increase our potential exponentially. It would make us top 5-10, IMO. And, we all hope that happens. But, it’s not impossible to make deep NCAAT runs without future NBA studs.Kentucky's best teams since probabtion:
1993: 30-4. One NBA All-Star, Jamal Mashburn. Four NBA players.
1996: 34-2. One NBA All-Star, Antoine Walker. Nine NBA players.
1997: 35-5. One first team All-American, Ron Mercer. One NBA All-Star, Jamaal Magloire. Six NBA players.
1998: 35-4. One NBA All-Star, Jamaal Magloire. Five NBA players.
2010: 35-3. Two NBA All-Stars, John Wall and Boogie Cousins. 8 NBA players.
2012: 38-2. One NBA All-Star, Anthony Davis. Six NBA players.
2015: 38-1. Two NBA All-Stars, Karl Towns and Devin Booker. Nine NBA players.
So basically none of these teams had a roster WITHOUT a future NBA All-Star. All of them also featured guys who were on the first, second, or third team All-American list (with the exception being Kentucky, which had 7 rotation players with Final Four experience - some multiple Final Fours). Each of them had rosters with multiple future first round picks (even 1998, which had FOUR).
Does anyone actually think this present UK roster is remotely close to those teams?
We're not winning a title with our roster as is. In fact, we'd be lucky to get out of the first weekend.
I'm fine with that. It's a stopgap year. But I'm not fine with some of you playing make believe and depending on some historical anomaly where this team of role players somehow burns it up this year by winning four straight tourney games to advance to the Final Four.
At present, the talent simply isn't there.
Yeah it’s unheard of that players get better each passing year or hell this is even a more far fetched idea….a coaching staff plays to a players strength and actually runs sets to get players open. Crazy thought…I know I know.Maybe we already have a couple.
Even betterDeadline to withdraw from NBA draft and still retain NCAA eligability is May 29
Cal had the players, he just can’t coach in this era. Robic was obviously a huge part of his success.Some think there is this magical pot of gold out there and we can just buy every kid we want. It doesn’t work that way.
Even Cal, the best recruiter on paper we have probably ever had could not do that and when he did get highly ranked recruits they rarely fit together. As we saw the last 4 years in particular, he could not hide their weaknesses or exploit their strengths either.
NIL and transfer portal have completely changed everything. What worked even 4 years ago isn’t going to work now.
Bingo...Didn't say we didn't need "good" players, said we didn't need the very top studs. We actually have several good players on this roster. Cal has literally brainwashed people over the years to believe if you don't have 3 or 4 of the top 10 guys you can't win. UK has what,46 players in the league and one title to show for it. Let's try something different.
If he wanted UT so bad and as this lock why even take other visits? He may end up there but usually if that’s what wins he would have just announced for them right after his draft was done. I guess maybe to drive up his price but apparently UT doesn’t do bidding wars so I’d choose a random school like Washington.Tennesse people are saying his family wants Tennesse and so does Lanier and that’s what wins out
Absolutely possibleHe might have been playing UK and BYU to get more money from Tenn.
Well I do know one thing. We have lost a coach who was one of the worst x and o coaches and in game adjuster , but gained a coach regarded as a brilliant basketball x and o coach and in game adjuster. Beyond that I don't KNOW much, but do have guesses.I am convinced of one thing. Nobody really knows anything.
Idk there are a bunch of people throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks. Just going off vibes it feels like Tennessee now, but I will admit I know absolutely nothingIf he wanted UT so bad and as this lock why even take other visits? He may end up there but usually if that’s what wins he would have just announced for them right after his draft was done. I guess maybe to drive up his price but apparently UT doesn’t do bidding wars so I’d choose a random school like Washington.
Idk there are a bunch of people throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks. Just going off vibes it feels like Tennessee now, but I will admit I know absolutely nothing
I just going based on the sleepers media guys saying it’s Tennessee, I like them and they don’t say stuff unless they feel good about itThe only reason it feels like that is because he visited there last. If he was at UK right now most would still feel confident. This is typical in recruiting where nobody wants a player to visit the rival team last.
I don’t believe Tennessee can or will outbid Kentucky if Kentucky wants the player, not in basketball. Having said that we don’t know how bad Pope wants him so who knows.
If he wanted UT so bad and as this lock why even take other visits? He may end up there but usually if that’s what wins he would have just announced for them right after his draft was done. I guess maybe to drive up his price but apparently UT doesn’t do bidding wars so I’d choose a random school like Washington.
Yeah that would be really hard to do IMO. Just have to feel a player out, look at their camp too.Hopefully Pope will put somewhat of a stop to kids using UK as leverage to get big deals elsewhere. Gonna be tough to do, though. College sports recruiting isn't worth tracking anymore unless you are like the chaos.
100% this ^^^Honestly at this point nothing surprises me
Lord of the RaftersSo basically. No concerns will be tolerated. Because Pope played here 30 years ago, when I was in college, and had hair on my head. And that makes me feel fuzzy. When did this board turn into groupthink central?
Have they ever been ahead of the pack on any predictions? I'm honestly ignorant to their batting average in the realm of predictions.I just going based on the sleepers media guys saying it’s Tennessee, I like them and they don’t say stuff unless they feel good about it
I'm not sure that he's waiting on it (may just be getting more comfortable with the NBA decision), but Pilgrim just pretty much implied that if Lanier picks UT, Robinson is more than likely withdrawing from the draft and coming to UK.Could be Robinson is waiting on Lanier's decision. If it's UT, ka-ching!!!
Who's freaking out and who's bitching? I said I'm completely fine with a stopgap season in my post. I noticed you didn't address my actual point.Do you always bitch? I bet people duck and cover when they see you coming.
The man has been on the job for 1 month. None of the team from last year stayed. The portal had already opened when he was hired and 95% of the freshmen class was signed, sealed and delivered. He had to hire all his assistant and recruit a cohesive unit that want to be here for more than just money. Finally, it isn’t just about the name anymore. You can’t just go tell a kid you are from Ky and get their name on the dotted line. There is this little thing called NIL. Other big schools have leveraged NIL and driven up the price for portal players($2 million for Osobor is ridiculous). I think there was a conscious decision not to poison the water for next years recruits(HS and Portal) by over biding this year.
So, give the man the courtesy of at least playing a season so we can see what is going to work for him, before you freak out.
The YouTube video isn’t the video I’m referring to it’s a discord thing they did, but the YouTube video is just them dicking around. The discord stuff is what I am referring toHave they ever been ahead of the pack on any predictions? I'm honestly ignorant to their batting average in the realm of predictions.
I like their videos, but they just seem like a couple of guys shooting videos from their mom's basement.
Edit: I just watched their video, and their Tennessee prediction seemed like the least confident thing I've heard all week. It was based on absolutely nothing they've heard lately and all of it was based on gut instinct.
And that's the "source" that's making you nervous right now?
You might as well cite Kybassfan or JFCats as your source.
Well the Youtube video is from 5 hours ago. So are we to believe that in five hours they went from dicking around to suddenly knowing where Chaz is heading?The YouTube video isn’t the video I’m referring to it’s a discord thing they did, but the YouTube video is just them dicking around. The discord stuff is what I am referring to
They were talking about agent connects and stuff like that, I watched the YouTube video again and yeah that’s bad, but the discord stuff they are serious. But honestly I feel like we get a answer Wednesday or ThursdayWell the Youtube video is from 5 hours ago. So are we to believe that in five hours they went from dicking around to suddenly knowing where Chaz is heading?
What did they hear in that amount of time, and from whom did they hear it?
He’s got almost 115 followers. He’ll get at least a dozen more after posting that.
FiwlBut what, then, when the mockingbird vigilantly guards the tree?
Somewhere over the rainbow.Kentucky's best teams since probabtion:
1993: 30-4. One NBA All-Star, Jamal Mashburn. Four NBA players.
1996: 34-2. One NBA All-Star, Antoine Walker. Nine NBA players.
1997: 35-5. One first team All-American, Ron Mercer. One NBA All-Star, Jamaal Magloire. Six NBA players.
1998: 35-4. One NBA All-Star, Jamaal Magloire. Five NBA players.
2010: 35-3. Two NBA All-Stars, John Wall and Boogie Cousins. 8 NBA players.
2012: 38-2. One NBA All-Star, Anthony Davis. Six NBA players.
2015: 38-1. Two NBA All-Stars, Karl Towns and Devin Booker. Nine NBA players.
So basically none of these teams had a roster WITHOUT a future NBA All-Star. All of them also featured guys who were on the first, second, or third team All-American list (with the exception being Kentucky, which had 7 rotation players with Final Four experience - some multiple Final Fours). Each of them had rosters with multiple future first round picks (even 1998, which had FOUR).
Does anyone actually think this present UK roster is remotely close to those teams?
We're not winning a title with our roster as is. In fact, we'd be lucky to get out of the first weekend.
I'm fine with that. It's a stopgap year. But I'm not fine with some of you playing make believe and depending on some historical anomaly where this team of role players somehow burns it up this year by winning four straight tourney games to advance to the Final Four.
At present, the talent simply isn't there.
It's an emotional thing.Who's freaking out and who's bitching? I said I'm completely fine with a stopgap season in my post. I noticed you didn't address my actual point.
I just think it's silly to try to make a case for this current roster being good enough to make a deep run in the tourney. Could they? Sure. But not because such a run would be considered probable. Add another piece or two, and things can change.
It’s a troll but it also wouldn’t surprise me
We should at least expect Pope and company to bat better than .000% with top-end recruits, in the portal and out of highschool. Kentucky and it's fans should never temper expectations.He’s been here less than 2 months …what you expect him to do?? Get every single recruit he’s after. Like i said be reasonable and use logic. It’s not his 5th year at UK. Good lord.
The squeaky wheel should have had preventative maintenance. Or so said the wise cicada.Fiwl
Somewhere over the rainbow.
Stupid question but is Nashville a Tennessee centric city. Or is a melting pot of multiple fanbases?He is from TN. My opinion is he is going there if the money is comparable until I’m told otherwise.
If Lanier pulls the trigger for UT then so be it. We made our pitch and offer to him and that's all we can do.Bunch of UT people saying Lanier will be announcing for UT in the next day or two.
Pope better pray like crazy that Robinson pulls out of NBA draft
Melting potStupid question but is Nashville a Tennessee centric city. Or is a melting pot of multiple fanbases?