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Transgender Athletes, Opinion ?

If you have a dick and was born with Y chromosomes, you play against men. Twat and 2 Xs... women.

Science.
Haven't you been following the woke rules of engagement Col Angus? They only trust science in certain instances.

It is kind of like if I am part of the woke crowd it's my body my choice and apparently your body is my choice too.
 
That was an answer. No. Try and keep up. In your own personal life do what you want. I don’t care. Athletic competition it’s silly and stupid.
You've finally admitted to one point of progressive doctrine that you don't agree with. Progress. However, if the goal was only freedom to have your own "personal life" there would be no problem.

Progressives demand that every "personal life" be publicly accepted, accommodated, and normalized. The sane world must devolve to the lowest level of every individual insanity to reach "equity". And there is no bottom to the depths of human insanity that under these rules can only lead to the complete destruction of a rational, moral society.

It's a religion with no redeeming qualities.
 
Doesn’t affect my life in any way, shape or form, so I really dgaf.

That’s my opinion.
I seriously doubt that is your opinion for all things that don’t impact your life. Starvation in a third world country truly does not impact your life. You dgaf about starving people you will never see or know? Or, do you rationalize a connection between yourself and the issue when you want to express an opinion?

I have an opinion about a political liberal who claims he does not have an opinion about this. It is that he has an opinion, but it aligns with science and not emotion and that has him conflicted. He does not want to admit the people he construes as conservative are correct.
 
None of you need any help getting threads shut down. Never seen a group of people filled with more hate than your crew. Some of it is age but most of it is just being bad people.
When a person claims science as hate they have declared themselves the center of their universe and can believe anything at all. Saying trans people should not compete against biological females has nothing to do with hate. But, it is politically expedient and sophomoric to argue with emotional ad hominems when you otherwise cannot support your position. When you see your side on issues use such ridiculousness, you really should question your side. There are trans people who follow science and admit that trans people should not be competing with biological females. Recognition of science has not led them to self-hate.
 
I seriously doubt that is your opinion for all things that don’t impact your life. Starvation in a third world country truly does not impact your life. You dgaf about starving people you will never see or know? Or, do you rationalize a connection between yourself and the issue when you want to express an opinion?

I have an opinion about a political liberal who claims he does not have an opinion about this. It is that he has an opinion, but it aligns with science and not emotion and that has him conflicted. He does not want to admit the people he construes as conservative are correct.

I never claimed I had no opinion on all issues that don’t directly effect me. I have plenty of opinions about plenty of issues. I just don’t feel the need to have an opinion about every single issue on earth. Especially if I have limited knowledge of the issue. And I certainly don’t feel the need to announce my outrage regarding things I have limited knowledge about.

And I hope you don’t think I’m a political liberal. If you do, you could not be more wrong.
 
Good post. I agree. I’ve never said I support it in competitive sports. But if your uncle mike decides he wants to be aunt Mary I personally don’t care. Doesn’t bother or affect me.
Yet, this very thread is about discussing the issue of competition in sports and you appear to have tried very hard to make it about something else. If you read through the thread looking for signs of hate, you are one who stands out. Now, start a thread about your aunt Mary having the right to be aunt Mary if that is the thread you desire. I think you may find a lot of political conservative and libertarian people who agree that it does not bother or affect them, either.
 
I never claimed I had no opinion on all issues that don’t directly effect me. I have plenty of opinions about plenty of issues. I just don’t feel the need to have an opinion about every single issue on earth. Especially if I have limited knowledge of the issue. And I certainly don’t feel the need to announce my outrage regarding things I have limited knowledge about.

And I hope you don’t think I’m a political liberal. If you do, you could not be more wrong.
Yet you expressed an opinion in this thread by pretending you don’t have one.

[addendum: and, my apologies for suggesting you were a political liberal. Kind of a harsh declaration for the start of a day and I am sorry.]
 
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The whole "doesn't affect my life" is kind of silly to me. Plenty of things you have an issue with, don't actually affect your life. Kentucky basketball, doesn't really affect your life, yet we care about it.

Is some trans person affecting my life? No. But I dont think you can switch genders and compete in a "lesser" level of competition just so you can look better. And I dont care to listen to some girl-turned-guy try and tell me what it's like to be a man.. and I sure bet that most women don't want to hear it from a guy either. Imagine the "balls" to be a guy who pretends to be a girl, to think he has the same experience as being a girl.. to know what it's like to have your period every month or know how powerless a girl might be in the face of a man who wants to harm you..

Like Dave Chappelle said... I support your right to be who you want to be, but at what point to I have to participate. A girl can pretend to be a guy.. whatever. But im not going to accept you as the same thing I am.
 
The whole "doesn't affect my life" is kind of silly to me. Plenty of things you have an issue with, don't actually affect your life. Kentucky basketball, doesn't really affect your life, yet we care about it.

Is some trans person affecting my life? No. But I dont think you can switch genders and compete in a "lesser" level of competition just so you can look better. And I dont care to listen to some girl-turned-guy try and tell me what it's like to be a man.. and I sure bet that most women don't want to hear it from a guy either. Imagine the "balls" to be a guy who pretends to be a girl, to think he has the same experience as being a girl.. to know what it's like to have your period every month or know how powerless a girl might be in the face of a man who wants to harm you..

Like Dave Chappelle said... I support your right to be who you want to be, but at what point to I have to participate. A girl can pretend to be a guy.. whatever. But im not going to accept you as the same thing I am.
They always claim "it doesn't affect your life" but when you normalize crazy enough, it absolutely will affect your life. It sets precedent. Makes it difficult to argue to stop it. I'm sure there's parents of girls who it affects. Imagine your daughter training and working her ass off only to unfairly lose out on accomplishments because some messed up dude couldn't hang with other guys.

I do love the mental gymnastics required for the lefties to be all about this while chanting stuff like "The future is female" "Women empowerment" "You don't have a right to comment on abortion unless you're a woman" and then bitch about stuff like "cultural appropriation" but then turn around and be okay with mentally ill dudes cosplaying as women and thinking that makes them an actual woman. Isn't that "gender appropriation?"
 
Pretty sure you support Hillary Clinton, pedos, chicks with d!cks, Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein.
Voted for Clinton. Didn’t vote for trump. You know the guy who is verified to have been on Epstein’s plane many times. The guy who wished Maxwell luck. Remember him
 
Voted for Clinton. Didn’t vote for trump. You know the guy who is verified to have been on Epstein’s plane many times. The guy who wished Maxwell luck. Remember him
LOL. Oh, okay. Not going to mention that they were flights to Newark and one even had his wife and kids on the plane? Trying to act like it's anything remotely to what Clinton and shit did is amusing.

I've got you on ignore so I clicked just to see the stupid and it did not disappoint.
 
LOL. Oh, okay. Not going to mention that they were flights to Newark and one even had his wife and kids on the plane? Trying to act like it's anything remotely to what Clinton and shit did is amusing.

I've got you on ignore so I clicked just to see the stupid and it did not disappoint.
Sure you do. 😂😂
 
I’m a pretty liberal, pro-trans rights person, but when it comes to biological men competing against biological women, I just can’t see the fairness in it. Even if you give trans women all the hormone replacement treatments you can for many years, a biological man just has a natural advantage due to the development from testosterone in their system. I also don’t claim to have the solution bc there isn’t enough trans athletes to have a separate division. Maybe one day…
 
I’m a pretty liberal, pro-trans rights person, but when it comes to biological men competing against biological women, I just can’t see the fairness in it. Even if you give trans women all the hormone replacement treatments you can for many years, a biological man just has a natural advantage due to the development from testosterone in their system. I also don’t claim to have the solution bc there isn’t enough trans athletes to have a separate division. Maybe one day…
Good post
 
I’m a pretty liberal, pro-trans rights person, but when it comes to biological men competing against biological women, I just can’t see the fairness in it. Even if you give trans women all the hormone replacement treatments you can for many years, a biological man just has a natural advantage due to the development from testosterone in their system. I also don’t claim to have the solution bc there isn’t enough trans athletes to have a separate division. Maybe one day…
According to democrat leaders, you're a bigot.

This isn't the counterculture. "Progressive" radicals control the democrat party. They also control most if not all sports including the NCAA, corporations, schools, big tech, MSM, Hollywood, and the entire federal government. The implementation and normalization is being enforced with a heavy hand.

They also control the language. "Trans rights"? What does that even mean? For biological males to be able to compete against girls, use the girls restroom, or be placed in women's prison? Those have all worked out well. What am I missing?
 
According to democrat leaders, you're a bigot.

This isn't the counterculture. "Progressive" radicals control the democrat party. They also control most if not all sports including the NCAA, corporations, schools, big tech, MSM, Hollywood, and the entire federal government. The implementation and normalization is being enforced with a heavy hand.

They also control the language. "Trans rights"? What does that even mean? For biological males to be able to compete against girls, use the girls restroom, or be placed in women's prison? Those have all worked out well. What am I missing?
I’m not getting into this ridiculous political debate where you use false narratives and make broad assumptions about everyone who isn’t on your “team.” I gave my thoughts on trans athletes and sports and my views are consistent with the vast majority of liberals. My only recommendation is to stop letting Fox News tell you what the other side thinks.
 
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I’m not getting into this ridiculous political debate where you use false narratives and make broad assumptions about everyone who isn’t on your “team.” I gave my thoughts on trans athletes and sports and my views are consistent with the vast majority of liberals. My only recommendation is to stop letting Fox News tell you what the other side thinks.
Everything I said is true. It seems you liberals have lost control of your party, because like it or not, the democrats are the ones pushing this shit on the country. And it's only going to get worse as long as people like you keep your head up your ass.
 
Everything I said is true. It seems you liberals have lost control of your party, because like it or not, the democrats are the ones pushing this shit on the country. And it's only going to get worse as long as people like you keep your head up your ass.
You seem like such a pleasant person. The division in the country is because of people like you who would rather name call and pick battles rather than try to understand the other side. Liberals are guilty of that too, but whatever side im on, I’m just glad I don’t interact with an angry echo chamber like you.
 
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I’m not getting into this ridiculous political debate where you use false narratives and make broad assumptions about everyone who isn’t on your “team.” I gave my thoughts on trans athletes and sports and my views are consistent with the vast majority of liberals. My only recommendation is to stop letting Fox News tell you what the other side thinks.

Bigot
 
You seem like such a pleasant person. The division in the country is because of people like you who would rather name call and pick battles rather than try to understand the other side. Liberals are guilty of that too, but whatever side im on, I’m just glad I don’t interact with an angry echo chamber like you.
I'd like to understand your side. Apparently you don't understand it either. I asked you what I'm missing, but all you've got is "I use false narratives, make broad assumptions, and watch Fox News". None of which negates anything I've said even if it were true, which it's not.

You automatically go into defense mode about something you admitted you don't agree with. Party man? That is why we are divided. We can't talk facts about your party's radical ideological policies.

They're all doomed to fail, btw. Given the current lopsided power distribution across controlling entities and dgaf attitudes among you and yours, it seems we'll all get to see it happen. Since I'm a passenger on this sinking ship you'll have to forgive me for at least trying to bail a little water even though it appears to be futile.
 
I’m a pretty liberal, pro-trans rights person, but when it comes to biological men competing against biological women, I just can’t see the fairness in it. Even if you give trans women all the hormone replacement treatments you can for many years, a biological man just has a natural advantage due to the development from testosterone in their system. I also don’t claim to have the solution bc there isn’t enough trans athletes to have a separate division. Maybe one day…
What do you mean by "pro-trans rights"?
 
I'd like to understand your side. Apparently you don't understand it either. I asked you what I'm missing, but all you've got is "I use false narratives, make broad assumptions, and watch Fox News". None of which negates anything I've said even if it were true, which it's not.

You automatically go into defense mode about something you admitted you don't agree with. Party man? That is why we are divided. We can't talk facts about your party's radical ideological policies.

They're all doomed to fail, btw. Given the current lopsided power distribution across controlling entities and dgaf attitudes among you and yours, it seems we'll all get to see it happen. Since I'm a passenger on this sinking ship you'll have to forgive me for at least trying to bail a little water even though it appears to be futile.
You don’t want to understand my side because you want to box everyone on the left into a singular platform. I think the extreme left has hurt the Democratic Party but 90% of those on the left don’t align with the more radical views. That said, the right has been successful in pushing that false narrative within their own base.

I’m not trying to go into defense mode…literally all i did was provide my independent opinion of trans athletes in sports. I’m not on here to defend the party. I have issues with it myself, but I don’t necessarily align my political ideology with the particular political party. I can be liberal and more progressive but be critical of the Democratic Party. I’d vote for a Republican if they were more level headed than those in the Trump base.
 
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You don’t want to understand my side because you want to box everyone on the left into a singular platform. I think the extreme left has hurt the Democratic Party but 90% of those on the left don’t align with the more radical views. That said, the right has been successful in pushing that false narrative within their own base.

I’m not trying to go into defense mode…literally all i did was provide my independent opinion of trans athletes in sports. I’m not on here to defend the party. I have issues with it myself, but I don’t necessarily align my political ideology with the particular political party. I can be liberal and more progressive but be critical of the Democratic Party. I’d vote for a Republican if they were more level headed than those in the Trump base.
Dude. Just shut the **** up. You say you don't align yourself with the radical views yet your party is nothing but the radical views now. So when you cast your vote for a dem you cast your vote for those radical elements to take hold. That's how voting works.

Whether you like it Or not you are no different than the radicals.
 
You don’t want to understand my side because you want to box everyone on the left into a singular platform. I think the extreme left has hurt the Democratic Party but 90% of those on the left don’t align with the more radical views. That said, the right has been successful in pushing that false narrative within their own base.

I’m not trying to go into defense mode…literally all i did was provide my independent opinion of trans athletes in sports. I’m not on here to defend the party. I have issues with it myself, but I don’t necessarily align my political ideology with the particular political party. I can be liberal and more progressive but be critical of the Democratic Party. I’d vote for a Republican if they were more level headed than those in the Trump base.
If this were a fight they would throw in the white towel. Excellent posts.
 
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You don’t want to understand my side because you want to box everyone on the left into a singular platform. I think the extreme left has hurt the Democratic Party but 90% of those on the left don’t align with the more radical views. That said, the right has been successful in pushing that false narrative within their own base.

I’m not trying to go into defense mode…literally all i did was provide my independent opinion of trans athletes in sports. I’m not on here to defend the party. I have issues with it myself, but I don’t necessarily align my political ideology with the particular political party. I can be liberal and more progressive but be critical of the Democratic Party. I’d vote for a Republican if they were more level headed than those in the Trump base.
Sure you would comrade.
 
Dude. Just shut the **** up. You say you don't align yourself with the radical views yet your party is nothing but the radical views now. So when you cast your vote for a dem you cast your vote for those radical elements to take hold. That's how voting works.

Whether you like it Or not you are no different than the radicals.
Looks like he bloodied your some too.
 
What do you mean by "pro-trans rights"?
In a general sense (in my own words) any right that non-trans people have that allows them to live freely, accepted, safely, and comfortably away from discrimination. This goes into not passing judgement on the decisions they want to make or imposing restrictions to pursue their happiness as a transgendered person.
 
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