I’m not arguing that. I’m stating that Oscar and Toppin are equally bad defenders. But Oscar does get defensive rebounds.So you honestly are going to argue
Oscar
Reeves
Livingston
Frederick
Are all better defenders? Seriously.
The rest of team hardly matters as they don't play.
Defensive rebounds are defense. Oscar is better than Toppin.
And maybe PF’s aren’t torching Toppin as someone cherry picked above. But guards are.
Toppin is still in college because he can’t guard.
But also because he can’t catch a cold either.