The Ukraine war. (Yes, we'll mind our manners)
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How about you answer my question billy. You going to sign up to go over there to fight? You talking a really big game online.... Alligator mouth and a hummingbird ass.
We should send all magatards first. So they can get a history lesson on what appeasement to a dictator gets you.
Oh... so now its just pushing them out of Ukr... we aren't going to attack Russia proper and we aren't going to put missiles in Ukr when they join NATO and we aren't going to keep sending more and more advanced weapons for Ukr to kill Russians.... Pot... Meet kettle.
So you are just a huge hypocrite. I figured. You won't go fight. You want other people to go fight and then go online and talk about how awesome you are to be and American. You'll try to convince yourself your brave because other Americans died in a country you can't find on a map....and in 2 years you won't even remember their sacrifice. It's amazing how arrogant you act for being such a coward.
If you care so much about your fellow patriots getting slaughtered by Ukraine, go volunteer and fight for the christian values Putin stands for, lmfao.
If you don't want russians dying, tell Putin to pull his boys out.
When are you joining storm-Z? The russians would love you. Good propaganda piece. Before they send you to the front-line. For a meat-wave assualt on foot.
It's like your 4. I don't want anyone in America to die for anyone over there. How thick are you to not get that? I don't even want your delusional booty to die over there. Ukraine isn't our ally... they are a corrupt oligarchy that billionaires are stealing billions of dollars from. 50% of the money we send over there goes missing.... and we are broke... Still haven't realized how big a number $34 trillion is have you?
How thick are you? People said the same in WW2. ''No more aid for the UK, No troops to die in Europe again''. What happened? Isolationism and appeasment has NEVER worked.
You know the relative world peace we've enjoyed since 1945. Is due to the US based rules order? That we project with our Millitary. As soon as we start showing weakness shit kicks off. Biden pulls out of the middle east, Russia invades almost right after. US aid to Ukraine slows down, Iran helps hamas strike Israel. But you wan't to stop all aid? Then what happens? China takes Taiwan. Then what happens? The US loses it's advantage in computer chips and technology. Then what happens? The US looks weak and allies pull out of treaties, etc. You really don't understand.
We got one thing in common you and I... I'm not going to go over there and fight and neither are you... The difference is you act like you would and I'm being honest that I wouldn't. I'd pay you $5000 to go over there. Cash money... Just admit you're a coward that doesn't have the guts to back up your words. You aren't going to fight Russians under any circumstance. You're just too stubborn to admit that other people shouldn't have to do what you wouldn't do under any circumstance.
Think about that for a second.... You would send Americans over there to die but wouldn't go over there under any circumstance. The only reason you are even talking crap is because we don't have a draft. If you knew you had a 50/50 shot of going over there you'd change your mind because then it'd be real.
Whats with your weird ''GO OVER THERE AND FIGHT''? When are you going to go overthrow the US government? You call for civil war in the political thread all day. Well, when you going? The whole reason I support aid for Ukraine is so we don't have to get drafted. Difference is, you think appeasment to a dictator will work. I believe in force, you believe in ''treaties''. Yeah, russia is really trustful, they've already invaded Ukraine 3 times.
It's actually nothing like ww2. Hitler was trying to take over most of Europe. Outside of ww1 treaties you'd be hard pressed to say that the allies forced Hitler to attack all of Europe. We litter ali had the cia in Ukraine to overthrow their government with the expressed intent of putting NATO bases on Russia's throat.
We aren't even protecting our own border. How are you this concerned over Ukr? China and muslim terrorist are coming across our border. It's just a matter of time before we get hit... Haven't heard a peep out of you about that. But you keep worrying about a war that doesn't affect us over 7000 miles away.
Russia talking points. Nice. Tell me again how Nato is on ''Russia's throat''? Putin invaded Ukraine for a warm water port for his navy, their abudnant resources, their wheat, etc. He also wants poland, moldova, and Alaska. Putin doesn't want all of Europe, you're right. He just wants what was once Russia. Which includes Poland, The baltics, Moldova, etc etc. The ignorace to say a war that's 7000 miles away doesn't effect us is hilarious. Same things said in WW1, and WW2. Ignornace is alive and well in the US.
Look at the map at this link.
WTH are you talking about? I've never said "overthrow the US government". I think Biden is basically a puppet for globalist. I think we need to take our government back from the globalist because our government should represent America and not everyone else. My point about you not going over there is obvious if you weren't scared to admit what it means.... You do not have the courage to do what you are asking of others. You are willing to bet other peoples money and other peoples lives... You brave boy.
Amazing how your spitting shit said 80-100 years ago, verbatim. When you have historical precedence to prove you wrong. Yet, it's still being spouted.
I'm tired of arguing with you. Like I said... You won. We are going to war now. You are getting what you want. You should quit arguing with me and be happy that Americans will again be brought home in flag draped caskets. You can pretend to care... maybe even put some more names of men braver than you in your sig... You got everything you wanted and are still so angry... it';s almost like you're just afraid that you are going to be told "I told you so" in a few years and you want everyone to agree with you so you can pretend we all got fooled. LOL
I'd be willing to bet that there are a lot more of us "magatards" who have served and fought in a war that understand more about what it means to fight and the total cost of it and not just money.
History lesson? Please. Many of us served during the cold war and know what kind of enemy Russia was/is. Just about every day during the cold war we were educated on everything Russia. Their government, their history, their mindset, and more importantly, their weaponry. Back then, I could tell you every aircraft, armor piece, artillery piece, uniform, and many other aspects of their military including the capabilities of their equipment.
They pretty much use the same stuff, save for a few new aircraft. Their new tank was cancelled. And they have 2 new APC/IFVs.
When RoRo admits he is pondering my sack, this thread becomes uncomfortable. We should be able to disagree without you mentally getting into my pants.
ROFL!!!🤣
It’s hilarious how aid to Ukraine was touted as a bipartisan thing, but as opposition to funding endless deaths over seas grows, those desiring peace are the people letting politics drive their position.
Yeah, let’s just be honest. 😂
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RoRo - Ukraine is not winning because they don’t have access to our junkyard.
You don’t see the inconsistencies in your positions, or your do, and it’s irrelevant. When you act like negotiation is appeasement akin to some people’s pre-WWII position and that “appeasing” Putin is akin to appeasing Hitler, YOU are making the case that we should enter the war.
April 15, 2022:
"The draft treaty states that Ukraine, while being allowed to pursue European Union membership, wouldn’t be allowed to join military alliances such as the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. No foreign weapons would be allowed on Ukrainian soil. Ukraine’s military would be pared down to a specific size. Russia sought to limit everything from the number of troops and tanks to the maximum firing range of Ukrainian missiles.
The Crimean Peninsula, already occupied by Russia, would remain under Moscow’s influence and not be considered neutral. Moscow also pushed for the Russian language to operate on an equal basis with Ukrainian in government and courts,"
IOW, Russia could then takeover Ukraine fully any time they please.
So under what conditions anywhere would you sign up if things got hot? Just curious since you posed the question to another w/o giving your actions first.
That's such a bogus argument when the aid amount is tiny vs. your numbers here. Plus there's tons of other stuff that could be dropped even more easily like loan forgiveness, aid to illegals.
So where do you want Americans to die? In KY? You want a defenseless America - America Last.
If anyone in America was worried about Russia, this war has quelled those fears, by the admission of all the warhawks on this thread who early on laughed at Russia’s incompetence. If people are dying in Kentucky, it is because of the political decisions of government, not because of some foreign power (other than COVID deaths).
So where do you want Americans to die since it's not in Ukraine - well established? Russia is incompetent given they can't run over a much smaller opponent with a much smaller GDP/person.
The globalist elite are using secret labs in Ukraine. To make bio-engineered CIA super soldiers. Putin was forced to invade!
Many of us predicted within the first two months it would get to this point. It was both obvious and inevitable..
Which makes us question, as always, those who denied that it would. And are still in denial.
As I’ve said: you can be denial all you want about world events if they don’t affect our country. But denying the reality of Ukraine harms us in very serious and dangerous ways.
Oh, you think I need to want Americans to dies someplace? That’s an odd demand. How about where they live and die of natural causes? How ‘bout dem apples, chief?
This conversation has been about not wanting Americans to die in Ukraine, specifically. Why didn't it start with not wanting Americans to die at all - period? Then you felt the need to get involved w/o a good reason, bringing your question on yourself. Ridiculous sh!t.
Your response was ridiculous. Agreed.
America being attacked. At this point I wouldn't sign up for anything less. 20 years of BS wars with lie after lie. 22000 dead soldiers and tons of guys missing legs and arms or burned to a crisp.... We don't even guard our own border.
You truly are a moron. Holy crap. How do read what I wrote and get that? LOL.
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