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I think this group will probably mash the ball against much of our OOC schedule. I think it will look similar to when Cohen or Henderson played the OOC and they were undefeated going into conference play. It is at this point that the rubber will meet the road and we will see just how good we really are. A lot of people hit really well but struggle when they take this step up.

In 2019, when finally healthy, TJ Collett hit around .259. That looks pretty solid, but when you look a bit deeper you see he hit just .214 in SEC play. So, he mashed against OOC, but really struggled against conference pitching, and conference pitching is really all that matters.

Same thing happened with Jaren Shelby. He hit .273 in 2019, but just .215 in league play.

Now, where these two separate is that Collett came back in 2021 and hit .304 and actually hit better in conference (.314) than he did out of it; while Shelby really never got a chance.

In 2021 we saw two guys on a similar path. Chase Estep hit .252 OOC, but just .211 in conference. There were a whole lot of OOC games where he raked, but then we’d get to the weekend and he couldn’t find the ball at all. Anu, somewhat similarly, hit .265 overall and just .234 in league play. Will these two hit like Collett did or will they continue to struggle against the better pitchers? Their level of success will really help determine how this team goes.

Ritter is another one… caught fire at the end of the year and carried that into the summer with a wood bat against some top pitchers. Still, in conference his average was just .231 while his overall was .275. So, who is the real Ritter? The one that is largely a defensive specialist, or the one that can rake and play great defense? Again, how he does will help determine how the team does overall. This core of 3 does solid and it will help some others along as well.

These are all kind of examples of young players experiencing their first tastes of SEC pitching. It wasn’t easy for them, as it isn’t easy for many. So, how will the transfers do? Many of them have faced some SEC teams, but not ones every weekend and probably haven’t faced their weekend starters much, if at all. So, one has to imagine that they will probably do pretty well against OOC pitching, but, as I mention regularly, I imagine there might be a learning curve for conference pitching. Just how quickly they get that learning curve down (if at all) will determine whether we have a successful year or we have a dreadful year.
 
I respect your opinions. If a team doesn’t have viable options within their program whose fault is that? If you are replacing draft picks with mid major transfers you are in trouble. Your theory about having leverage because you can come back as a Senior is completely wrong. You have zero leverage as a Senior. They can offer you next to nothing and you either take it or you’re done with baseball. I could keep going but I’m gonna stop.
I think you missed my point. I'm not saying you have leverage as a senior. But, there is some leverage as a junior, because you do have the option of coming back and increasing your draft stock. If you come back and don't increase your draft stock then you are definitely getting significantly less money, but as a junior it isn't the same as being a senior who literally has no other options.

What I've been saying is that I think we are seeing the new normal in college baseball. Transfer portal is making it so that coaches can bring in kids with a more known/proven skill set than a kid coming out of high school. There is a more immediate return in the way of playing time and contribution than a freshman who isn't ready for college baseball yet.
 
On Twitter, UK baseball just put out stats for 4 of the new transfers (Fogel, Thrasher, Jump and Harris)...so my questions is.

640 Hits
381 Runs
372 RBI
139 Sb
18 3B
55 HR
110 SB

If these guys have all these hits, runs, HR then why were they in the transfer portal?
 
On Twitter, UK baseball just put out stats for 4 of the new transfers (Fogel, Thrasher, Jump and Harris)...so my questions is.

640 Hits
381 Runs
372 RBI
139 Sb
18 3B
55 HR
110 SB

If these guys have all these hits, runs, HR then why were they in the transfer portal?
They were all at much, much lower level baseball schools than the SEC. Will they be able to duplicate their success? Seriously doubt it.
 
On Twitter, UK baseball just put out stats for 4 of the new transfers (Fogel, Thrasher, Jump and Harris)...so my questions is.

640 Hits
381 Runs
372 RBI
139 Sb
18 3B
55 HR
110 SB

If these guys have all these hits, runs, HR then why were they in the transfer portal?
Well, for some of them it has to be proving that they can compete at a higher level. Fogel played at Hawaii with the SOS ranked 148th a year ago. Despite playing a poor schedule, they only won 17 games and lost 26. They pretty much only played a conference schedule a year ago. They played some non-D1 schools, played Arizona State, and then played in conference only. Harris was at Eastern Kentucky where their strength of schedule was 133th in 2021. Thrasher played at Hartford. They played conference only a year ago in the America East, and had an 18-20 record with a strength of schedule of 223.

So, these three have a big opportunity to prove themselves against better talent in the SEC. We will see how they do.

Hunter Jump comes from Arizona State, which played a much more competitive schedule in the Pac 12, 29th toughest in the country. I do not understand what is up with Hunter Jump. Has hit .316 in his college career at very competitive teams. So, I don’t really know why he has not received more love from scouts. I suppose it is possible that he is not a very good defensive player? He had 3 errors a year ago as an outfielder (.948). By contrast, the only UK outfielder that recorded an error a year ago was Schultz and he had 4 (.953). So, maybe this is a major issue? Schultz had literally just started playing OF last fall and he still had a better fielding percentage than Jump. Still, he can hit, so you’d think that would get him more scouting attention.

Fogel will be interesting. My understanding is that Hawaii is a hard place to hit home runs. That basically the wind greatly reduces the ability to get the ball out of the park. Despite that, he hit 18 home runs over his career at Hawaii. So, the question is… how much power does he actually have and can he put a lot of balls out of the KPP this season?

Thrasher’s base stealing sticks out the most. Will be interesting to see how better pitchers do at keeping him close and better catchers do at limiting his ability.

All in all, these are big numbers, but many of them at smaller schools and we will have to see how that translates to the SEC. We just don’t know. There is a lot of factors with this, and also that they will presumably be surrounded by better hitters, so they could see better pitches than they typically see. These are the fun and interesting things that we find out in the spring.
 
Well it sure seems much more optimistic than months ago when the season was over.

I was hoping Mitch was doing exit interviews and strongly addressed any problems. Perhaps we will see a change in approach from the coaching staff and particularly the HC… if anyone was to believe some of the comments posted on a message board.

CNM sure seems likable to someone like me that is a casual fan 89 plus miles away.
 
Well it sure seems much more optimistic than months ago when the season was over.

I was hoping Mitch was doing exit interviews and strongly addressed any problems. Perhaps we will see a change in approach from the coaching staff and particularly the HC… if anyone was to believe some of the comments posted on a message board.

CNM sure seems likable to someone like me that is a casual fan 89 plus miles away.
From what I was told, Barnhart did not contact any of the players that were transferring. Mingione gave his thoughts on why the players left and that was the end of it.
 
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From what I was told, Barnhart did not contact any of the players that were transferring. Mingione gave his thoughts on why the players left and that was the end of it.
I can understand this as you want to trust your coach but after last year when several ex-players called Ming out on social media I would have thought Barnhart would look into things.
 
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While I did not hear that Barnhart met with any exiting players, I did hear that Mingione met with a former player and asked that former player for some advice. That former player allegedly did not pull any punches in explaining why there was such turmoil.

Now, whether there was anything taken to heart on that, I don't know. At least looking at this team through social media, they seem like a pretty tight-knit bunch, and playing for one another can really help a team go a long way.
 
While I did not hear that Barnhart met with any exiting players, I did hear that Mingione met with a former player and asked that former player for some advice. That former player allegedly did not pull any punches in explaining why there was such turmoil.

Now, whether there was anything taken to heart on that, I don't know. At least looking at this team through social media, they seem like a pretty tight-knit bunch, and playing for one another can really help a team go a long way.
Yes, I heard last year there was definitely some Mingione moves that favored certain players which caused a lot of turmoil. Everything seems fine until the Spring when everyone is wanting to be a starter. HAHA
 
One thing I just noticed is that UK does not count the SEC tournament as league stats. I don't know if they always do this or what.

So, for instance... Plastiak hit 14-67 (.209) overall a year ago while hitting 11-42 (.262). However, he went 0-4 in the SEC tournament. That is counted in the overall, but not in the conference stats. So, if you put that in the conference stats you'd have him at 11-46 (.239). Just found that interesting.

My point in looking at this was because I think we have a lot of players that it is unclear who/what they are. Plastiak being one. .262 is very solid in league play. 11 hits in limited games, just 11 starts (12 if you include SEC tourney). However, if you dig deeper it is a bit more concerning... he started 11 games and had 5 hits in one series, against UGA. So, in the 8 other games he had 6 hits in 26 at bats (.230), if you add the UF SEC game that drops to .200. Somewhat a small window to look through here, as he didn't consistently play all that often and what not, but it is a very good example of not knowing what we might get from Plastiak, and is kind of a microcosm of the entire team.

So, there is optimism for this team, as there always is for a new season, but I think it is really hard to know whether these guys can improve at the plate or if we'll take a step back. I just don't know that there is a single person I can say with absolute certainty that they'll be a steady hitter all year.

I think pitching keeps us in a lot of games though. I do think we improve there.
 
One thing I just noticed is that UK does not count the SEC tournament as league stats. I don't know if they always do this or what.

So, for instance... Plastiak hit 14-67 (.209) overall a year ago while hitting 11-42 (.262). However, he went 0-4 in the SEC tournament. That is counted in the overall, but not in the conference stats. So, if you put that in the conference stats you'd have him at 11-46 (.239). Just found that interesting.

My point in looking at this was because I think we have a lot of players that it is unclear who/what they are. Plastiak being one. .262 is very solid in league play. 11 hits in limited games, just 11 starts (12 if you include SEC tourney). However, if you dig deeper it is a bit more concerning... he started 11 games and had 5 hits in one series, against UGA. So, in the 8 other games he had 6 hits in 26 at bats (.230), if you add the UF SEC game that drops to .200. Somewhat a small window to look through here, as he didn't consistently play all that often and what not, but it is a very good example of not knowing what we might get from Plastiak, and is kind of a microcosm of the entire team.

So, there is optimism for this team, as there always is for a new season, but I think it is really hard to know whether these guys can improve at the plate or if we'll take a step back. I just don't know that there is a single person I can say with absolute certainty that they'll be a steady hitter all year.

I think pitching keeps us in a lot of games though. I do think we improve there.
With the roster turnover we have had this past year it's almost like Ming is rebuilding or is a first year coach bringing in his own guys.
Yes, I heard last year there was definitely some Mingione moves that favored certain players which caused a lot of turmoil. Everything seems fine until the Spring when everyone is wanting to be a starter. HAHA
With the roster turnover we have had this past year it's almost like Ming is rebuilding or is a first year coach bringing in his own guys. Maybe thats what he told Barnhart to keep his job.
 
So what does mingione need to do this year to keep his job? Imo it comes down to a ncaa tournament berth. Anything less and his time here is up.
 
Well it sure seems much more optimistic than months ago when the season was over.

I was hoping Mitch was doing exit interviews and strongly addressed any problems. Perhaps we will see a change in approach from the coaching staff and particularly the HC… if anyone was to believe some of the comments posted on a message board.

CNM sure seems likable to someone like me that is a casual fan 89 plus miles away.
Mingione is spineless. I know from interactions he’s had with players and familie
So what does mingione need to do this year to keep his job? Imo it comes down to a ncaa tournament berth. Anything less and his time here is up.
There was roster turnover because Mingione and Coggin are clowns. Mingione recruited the guys that chose to leave. It’s not like they were a prior staffs recruits. His starting catcher was leaving to go to Tennessee if he wasn’t drafted. Talk about the ultimate slap in the face. Mingione and staff have elite travel teams that won’t deal with them any longer because of how they’ve mishandled some recruitments. The high profile kids they have in the 22 class will never step foot on campus. I’ve also been told a lot of the Baseball world thinks Mingione is making huge offers to kids knowing that they’ll never actually get that high of a scholarship percentage. Mingione is simply doing it to get kids to commit and possibly save his job. Word is He knows the money he’s offering will never actually be there. If this is true it will be in line with a lot of the shenanigans I’ve been told have taken place within this program.
 
So what does mingione need to do this year to keep his job? Imo it comes down to a ncaa tournament berth. Anything less and his time here is up.

That would definitely save him. I think he contractually gets an automatic one year extension if he makes the NCAAs. So, that'll keep him another year.

Not sure if anything less will keep him around, but hard to get into Mitch's head. I think they've made excuses for him not making it up to this point. Maybe if they can find more excuses they will have him stick around. Like lots of injuries or some, 'bad break.'
 
Mingione is spineless. I know from interactions he’s had with players and familie

There was roster turnover because Mingione and Coggin are clowns. Mingione recruited the guys that chose to leave. It’s not like they were a prior staffs recruits. His starting catcher was leaving to go to Tennessee if he wasn’t drafted. Talk about the ultimate slap in the face. Mingione and staff have elite travel teams that won’t deal with them any longer because of how they’ve mishandled some recruitments. The high profile kids they have in the 22 class will never step foot on campus. I’ve also been told a lot of the Baseball world thinks Mingione is making huge offers to kids knowing that they’ll never actually get that high of a scholarship percentage. Mingione is simply doing it to get kids to commit and possibly save his job. Word is He knows the money he’s offering will never actually be there. If this is true it will be in line with a lot of the shenanigans I’ve been told have taken place within this program.
Not all were Mingione…..I know Hill was NOT a Mingione recruit, he was a Henderson recruit. He is probably wishing Henderson was still there.
 
I can tell you this team is gelling really well, and they are pretty excited for what the season looks like. In response to the post earlier about not knowing a single hitter who we feel really comfortable is going to hit the ball.. Are we saying Ritter's tear through the Cape this summer was just a fluke? I think we can pretty confident he will be one of the better hitters on the team and possibly in the SEC this year. That guy can make himself a LOT of money with a good year this year.
 
I can tell you this team is gelling really well, and they are pretty excited for what the season looks like. In response to the post earlier about not knowing a single hitter who we feel really comfortable is going to hit the ball.. Are we saying Ritter's tear through the Cape this summer was just a fluke? I think we can pretty confident he will be one of the better hitters on the team and possibly in the SEC this year. That guy can make himself a LOT of money with a good year this year.
Ritter is dang good defensively. Offensively who knows what he’ll bring. He didn’t do much at the plate last year at all in SEC play. Let’s wait til Christmas break and see who Mingione sends packing. Too many kids on the roster and there will be those basically cut.
 
I can tell you this team is gelling really well, and they are pretty excited for what the season looks like. In response to the post earlier about not knowing a single hitter who we feel really comfortable is going to hit the ball.. Are we saying Ritter's tear through the Cape this summer was just a fluke? I think we can pretty confident he will be one of the better hitters on the team and possibly in the SEC this year. That guy can make himself a LOT of money with a good year this year.

I do not know if it is a fluke or not. That is the point. Baseball is a weird and fickle sport where sometimes players play over their heads because they are, 'hot,' and other times they play horrible because they are in a slump. Ryan Johnson in 2018 was a failed hitter, hitting just .138 in SEC play. He did so poorly the staff agreed to allow him to switch to pitcher, which he also struggled as. He stayed as a pitcher in 2019 until somewhat late in the year when he started playing the field again and hit .340 in SEC play, in 47 ABs. So, which Ryan Johnson was the real one? Kessler is another example... hit .297 in 2019 which was one of the best on the team. Then in 2020 he literally couldn't hit anything. In almost 50 at bats he had an average of .089, which was against extremely poor competition. Then you turn around and in 2021 he is back to leading the team and hitting and astonishing .349. So, clearly, there the real Kessler was much more around a .300 hitter than a .100 hitter, but he still had 2020 where he just couldn't hit at all. Rhodes is another one that tore it up in 2020 and then struggled moreso in 2021. Was he just really hot hitting the ball in 2020? Was it competition, or did he play poorly in 2021 due to pressure and other things?

We know that coming into UK that Ritter was not known as a hitter and people around the program were hoping he'd just be decent at the plate. They didn't even want him to be good, they just wanted him to be serviceable as a 9 hole type hitter. Given that reputation, I am hesitant to think that he has suddenly going to be a big time stud at that plate and hit at or above .300. I'm not saying he can't do it, or that he won't do it. I am just saying that he has not yet proven to me, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he will.
 
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I do not know if it is a fluke or not. That is the point. Baseball is a weird and fickle sport where sometimes players play over their heads because they are, 'hot,' and other times they play horrible because they are in a slump. Ryan Johnson in 2018 was a failed hitter, hitting just .138 in SEC play. He did so poorly the staff agreed to allow him to switch to pitcher, which he also struggled as. He stayed as a pitcher in 2019 until somewhat late in the year when he started playing the field again and hit .340 in SEC play, in 47 ABs. So, which Ryan Johnson was the real one? Kessler is another example... hit .297 in 2019 which was one of the best on the team. Then in 2020 he literally couldn't hit anything. In almost 50 at bats he had an average of .089. That against extremely poor competition. Then you turn around and in 2021 he is back to leading the team and hitting and astonishing .349. So, clearly, there the real Kessler was much more around a .300 hitter than a .100 hitter, but he still had 2020 where he just couldn't hit at all. Rhodes is another one that tore it up in 2020 and then struggled moreso in 2021. Was he just really hot hitting the ball in 2020? Was it competition, or did he play poorly in 2021 due to pressure and other things?

We know that coming into UK that Ritter was not known as a hitter and people around the program were hoping he'd just be decent at the plate. They didn't even want him to be good, they just wanted him to be serviceable as a 9 hole type hitter. Given that reputation, I am hesitant to think that he has suddenly going to be a big time stud at that plate and hit at or above .300. I'm not saying he can't do it, or that he won't do it. I am just saying that he has not yet proven to me, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he will.
Is Ritter really a lead-off guy like he was this fall?? Just doesn't seem to fit that mold.
 
Is Ritter really a lead-off guy like he was this fall?? Just doesn't seem to fit that mold.

Hard to say, but I lean more towards not being in favor of him as a leadoff guy.

Obviously, he hit well in the summer, hitting .330 through 91 at bats, 6 of the 30 hits he had were for extra bases (4 doubles, 1 triple, and a home run). He also had an OBP of .431, so you like that number as well. However, he also struck out 25 times, which led the team. At UK, he struck out 46 times, which was 3rd highest on the team and at UK he had an OBP of .322, which was 10th on the team, with only Anu and Estep being regular starters with lower OBPs.

So, in part... which Ritter are we getting? Summer Ritter? If so, then we can live with the strikeouts and he should be a solid leadoff. Still probably not my ideal and he strikes me more as a 2 hole guy, but he might be the best option if he hits close to what he did in the Cape. If we see more of what we saw in the spring of 2021, then he shouldn't be leading off. He isn't a big enough threat to get on base and hurts you as team in some ways with a lack of patience at the plate.

I will say this... it seems like Ritter got more patient as the year went on. He had 11 walks total in 2021 for UK, and 7 of those were in conference. So, it might have been that he was pressing too much early and settled in better later. We will see how that goes. Again, it is a matter of which Ritter we get in 2022.
 
Not a lot of options for Mingione to be honest. They best pitch well and play great D. Gonna struggle to score runs.

Ideally, Thrasher would be that guy. Led the nation in steals a year ago. Want him with the most ABs and the most chances to get on base and create chaos. I would be preaching for him to be the most patient hitter in history. See a ton of pitches and get a ton of walks, use the UK way of HBPs to get free passes where he can then make pitchers very nervous. We saw several times last year where Hill's jumping around and just being a menace really got into the heads of pitchers and caused errors that helped lead to runs. Thrasher could do similar, and we'd want him near the top of the lineup to do that, if possible.
 
Yeah, I think Thrasher is the leadoff guy. Ritter probably 2 hole. Thrasher was hurt for the scrimmages, which may be why Ritter was leading off.
 
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Any season ticket holders going to attend the Zoom call for the baseball team? You can learn all about the team, the fall and other important information.

Says they will even have a question and answer session. Hmmmm, what would I like to ask and would it be a truthful answer?
 
Any season ticket holders going to attend the Zoom call for the baseball team? You can learn all about the team, the fall and other important information.

Says they will even have a question and answer session. Hmmmm, what would I like to ask and would it be a truthful answer?

I think we will all be waiting here with baited breath to see what amazing new things the season ticket holders will learn from this zoom meeting.
 
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Did anything come out of the zoom meeting?

Haven't heard anything substance wise. I imagine it was mostly just bread and butter coach speak type thing where they kind of highlight what they are excited for in the upcoming season and such. Don't think there was any breaking news or anything like that.
 
Top 100 in 2022 draft now on mlb site, Ritter comes in at #73. Andruw Jones son #1.

I think I saw something that had Ritter as the 37th best prospect in college baseball. I think that is what it was. Pretty impressive for the young man.

I'm still scratching my head on why he played 2B this past summer in the Cape.
 
I think I saw something that had Ritter as the 37th best prospect in college baseball. I think that is what it was. Pretty impressive for the young man.

I'm still scratching my head on why he played 2B this past summer in the Cape.
Ritter is an excellent defensive shortstop. At the plate based on SEC he leaves alot to be desired. He'll get drafted but in my opinion he's nowhere near the 37th best college prospect.
 
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Ritter is an excellent defensive shortstop. At the plate based on SEC he leaves alot to be desired. He'll get drafted but in my opinion he's nowhere near the 37th best college prospect.

The most recent evidence people have regarding Ritter is the Cape Cod League stats. The Cape Cod League is widely considered the best summer baseball league and Ritter hit .330, the fourth best in the league overall. He was 2nd in the league in OBP at .431. So, people are thinking that he will continue to hit at a high level this spring and in the SEC, and is why his stock is very high right now. Will be fun seeing if he has improved his hitting, or if this summer he just kind of had a hot streak with the wood.

Interestingly, he also had the 2nd highest number of errors in the league with 9.
 
Re Ritter and 2B...could be he played there because MLB scouts see him as a 2B. Could be why he had a high number of errors, adjusting to a new position.
 
Re Ritter and 2B...could be he played there because MLB scouts see him as a 2B. Could be why he had a high number of errors, adjusting to a new position.

Doing some digging, Ritter started at short and hit 9th early in the season. Coastal Carolina's Eric Brown hit 8th and played 2nd. Boston College's Luke Gold and Tennessee Tech's (now Florida State) Brett Roberts also played 2nd and/or short and Roberts often DH'd. Ritter seemed to struggle at the plate early on. He sat out a game and/or subbed in and by game 6 his averaged dipped to .182, but this was so early that one game brought him back to .250.

He got back to starting in game 6. Game 7 he committed 2 errors, his 2nd and 3rd of the summer. His next start, game 9, he committed 2 more errors at SS (both in the same inning I believe).

Now the stat pages messed up for me and I can't see anymore. lol

I will try again in a bit to give you more information. That way we can see how often he played at SS versus 2B and where he got the errors, etc.
 
Okay, I am back.

Ritter committed another error at SS in game 10. I believe that makes his 6th of the year. This would have been July 2.

On July 5th, against Bourne, in the 12th game of the season, Ritter makes his first start at 2B. At this point, he was still hitting 9th and hitting .250. He had 2 games in a row he started at 2B. They played 36 games n the regular season this summer, btw.

He got another start at short in game 16, after either sitting out or PH in a couple games. Looks like he played short again for several days.

and once again the website stopped working. lol
 
Anyone have any news about who we lost over the break, any potential starters, any injuries? The season is not too far away.

I've heard about Leibert being in the outfield but nothing else.
 
Anyone have any news about who we lost over the break, any potential starters, any injuries? The season is not too far away.

I've heard about Leibert being in the outfield but nothing else.

I looked at the roster yesterday, but didn't see any changes. Still 39 on the roster. We might not lose anyone. Could probably just redshirt a chunk.

I expected the OF to be Jump, Thrasher and Fogel, from left to right. I still expect that, but did hear some rumblings that it could be very different from that. That some guys who are returning from 2021, you can guess who, will be out there defensively. Of course, a long way to go before we get to 2.18.22, so we'll see what happens.
 
I looked at the roster yesterday, but didn't see any changes. Still 39 on the roster. We might not lose anyone. Could probably just redshirt a chunk.

I expected the OF to be Jump, Thrasher and Fogel, from left to right. I still expect that, but did hear some rumblings that it could be very different from that. That some guys who are returning from 2021, you can guess who, will be out there defensively. Of course, a long way to go before we get to 2.18.22, so we'll see what happens.
UGH Anu in the outfield..........
 
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