This is a true statement.Originally posted by throatpoker:
I thought the same thing, but then I watched it a couple of times and Karl clinched his arms tight and wouldn't let the guy remove his arms.
I thought KAT was trying to break the hold by clinching his arms.Originally posted by throatpoker:
I thought the same thing, but then I watched it a couple of times and Karl clinched his arms tight and wouldn't let the guy remove his arms.
I agree. I don't understand the double foul there. The action went on for a few seconds with no call at all. Then, by that time Towns is reacting to being grabbed/fouled from behind (which, by the way, put Karl in a very vulnerable situation). No way should KT have been called for a foul there. I wonder if the officials reviewed this at all? Maybe it was not a reviewable play?Originally posted by kat57:
Just by watching the replay how do we know he clenched his arms tight? There may have been a reason for it, the player on his back may have been doing something to him and he was trying to protect himself. The official saw what we saw.
Dude lifted KAT off of the ground long before that, the foul should have been called then, even if what you say is true, the fouls were not simultaneous, therefor NOT a double foul, call the first one.Originally posted by throatpoker:
I thought the same thing, but then I watched it a couple of times and Karl clinched his arms tight and wouldn't let the guy remove his arms.
Seems like that has happened a lot lately. There have been plays where one of KY's guys have been fouled twice on a play and finally when they foul for the third time it is called. Come on officials call the first one.Originally posted by Seth C:
It's pretty simple. The ref was never, ever going to blow his whistle against Texas AM on that play until Towns FORCED him to actually a call a foul. Once Towns forced his hand (the ref would have preferred to just whistle Towns) he knew he had to call a foul on the player who had initiated it all, so he called one on both.
No it wasn't. Perhaps by the time he MADE a call it looked right, but had he called the first foul, when it happened, rather than wait until it became a double foul several seconds later, that would have been the actual right call. Letting one player grab another and waiting till the other guy fights back before you whistle anything is not, under any circumstance, the right call.Originally posted by ktbug:
It was the right call. There are many to gripe about, but I don't believe this is one. The bald ref made me miss Karl Hess.
Exactly right , that foul was there way before Karl got fed up and asserted in self defense.Originally posted by ftp000:
Dude lifted KAT off of the ground long before that, the foul should have been called then, even if what you say is true, the fouls were not simultaneous, therefor NOT a double foul, call the first one.Originally posted by throatpoker:
I thought the same thing, but then I watched it a couple of times and Karl clinched his arms tight and wouldn't let the guy remove his arms.
Never heard of him.Originally posted by throatpoker:
I thought the same thing, but then I watched it a couple of times and Karl clinched his arms tight and wouldn't let the guy remove his arms.
That must have been Throatpoker Sr. that made that callOriginally posted by throatpoker:
I thought the same thing, but then I watched it a couple of times and Karl clinched his arms tight and wouldn't let the guy remove his arms.
exactly what I saw, and I was yelling "how in the hell is that a foul on KAT"?
That one and Towns 5th foul were just horrendous. How in the world those are called is beyond me. Really makes you wonder about the objectivity of these refs.Originally posted by WildMoon:
If you look the video the first foul is when TAM player get his arm underneath towns, which isn't a big deal, but then he lifts his arm up even so he was underneath, and which point he lifts Towns. (If he was unlocking he should have lowered his arm). Go opposite of towns, on the other hand towns lifted his hand up because he was above him.
Towns is like wtf, and then leans forward and clutches him at the same time and lifts him. Then drops his ass.
That was terrible call.
I still don't understand why they didn't review the punch in the face that booker received. That was EFFED up. That was beyond bad. It was pretty obvious...
What were his arms doing there in the 1st place????Originally posted by throatpoker:
I thought the same thing, but then I watched it a couple of times and Karl clinched his arms tight and wouldn't let the guy remove his arms.
You are probably correct .Originally posted by Seth C:
It's pretty simple. The ref was never, ever going to blow his whistle against Texas AM on that play until Towns FORCED him to actually a call a foul. Once Towns forced his hand (the ref would have preferred to just whistle Towns) he knew he had to call a foul on the player who had initiated it all, so he called one on both.