The ACC stand a whopping 1-9 record in Bowl games as of today. Hopefully many of tge recruits will look to the SEC.
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Yeah definitely a bad season overall. I think they were like 5-6 last year with one of those being the game where FSU’s entire production opted out.
That same conference also had a winning record against the SEC last regular season just fyi.
That same conference also had a winning record against the SEC last regular season just fyi.
Are you into opt out bowls? Are you a Kentucky fan or an SEC fan?
you know you can be both
you do not have to put yourself on an island
A SEC fan like so many. It’s the only sport and league that does this. No one else has ever cared one iota or pounded their chest over a conference except this. It’s crazy and no one has ever rooted for Kentucky in college basketball to win it all. Everyone was against us in 2015. No one else in the SEC tried to take credit for the 2012 title either😂
Does UNC root for Duke cause of ACC? Does Tennessee root for us in basketball? No. Do the Cowboys celebrate the Eagles going to the Super Bowl cause they’re the NFC East?
No
They did although the wins were generally upper half acc vs lower sec if I recall correctly
One was FSU’s win over Jayden Daniels LSU team.
The SEC’s best OOC win last season was Kentucky over Louisville. Other than LSU against FSU, Bama against Texas, no one was scheduled that was a good game last year.
When you get curb stomped by UCONN in football then you know things are really bad. UNC now holds that distinction.
There is a logical explanation behind this phenomenon but if you don’t have the reasoning ability to see it on your own, then it’s probably not worth explaining. But hell, I have a free second.
I’ll give you a hint: not all (insert # of wins) teams are created equal. In a sport that only plays 12 regular season games (limited cross-sectional data points), a sport that has a small/limited postseason historically (2 best>4 best>12 best), followed by bowls of different prestige….it mattered for your league to perform well in order to get the benefit of doubt for selection of bowls in future years when being compared to other conference teams with the same record. If the ACC also produced 5 different national champ teams in 20 years, winning over 50% of the titles, and a bowl win percentage above 75%…other conferences would also tout that consistency and expect the benefit of the doubt until it’s proven the trend had broken.
You don’t have it in other sports bc you have many more data points for comparison, a much larger post season field that makes it much more “in your own control of where you end up”…not just perception determining what quality of singular post season game you play in.
Of note: not a coincidence that the NFL is the other sport that fans commonly admit to superior divisions and don’t downplay the impact.
As the playoff field expands…and the conferences realign and create mega conferences, combined with yearly transfers and NIL spreading the talent out more, I predict the days of a singular conference being as dominant as the SEC was from 2000-2023 to be long gone and the conference fanboying to become less now that most bowls are largely meaningless outside the ones included in the playoffs and it’s all about making the soon to be 16 team playoff…
Well lets see, I have been following, faithfully, UK football since the Mid 60's. I always pull for any SEC team against any foe from other conferences. Truthfully I don't think there is any ACC team that would have fewer than 3 or 4 losses consistently if they were in the SEC. Actually maybe no conference that would consistently 3 or less losses.
Wait. Why do we want the recruits to come in the SEC? Kentucky, yes. Sec? Absolutely not.
I’ve always thought Kentucky fans rooting for the SEC in football was to make us feel better about having a crappy football program.
huge difference in college and pro's
in college if your conference wins you get paid
you should always look at the big picture
with that said i will never root for Tennesse
The fsu game and Miami over A&M were the two wins against bowl eligible teams. Ga tech took two L’s and the UL game were all bowl eligible team losses. Yeah it was a forgettable slate…that was a very mediocre UL team relative to their ranking.
With nole in his name, got to assume he is some kind of FSU fan. How can any FSU fan who would love to be out of the ACC and in the SEC come to an SEC boad and tell it how great the ACC is. It's a mid major conference, being left out of the playoffs at 13-0 should tell them that, their TV deal is about 30% of the major conferences. But why would the Big or SEC want a team with the culture FSU presented in the Orange Bowl? Conference champion gets beat by the largest margin in modern bowl history.
Does bowl record by conference mean anything…all the opt outs etc. it just doesn’t mean anything to me…outside the playoffs
These bowl games …..helil kids barely care for regular season games anymore…just making a mockery of the entire sport
These bowl games …..helil kids barely care for regular season games anymore…just making a mockery of the entire sport
Lol, mid major GT out played your boys. If not for the late game fumble, they would have. That was not a fluke either, they whipped your team in the trenches.
Cheering moral victories now? And IF you aunt had testicles she would be your uncle. Hard to take GT serious when you have beaten them 19 out of 21.
Let me see if I can remember this correctly, UGA has played the ACC champions the last 2 years, the combined score is 93-6 and that was 2 FG, not a TD. So yeah, mid major.
Are you really bragging about beating an FSU team that had all but 2 starters opt out? Lol
It's not bragging when it's a fact.
Not UGA's fault they were a bunch of quitters, if all of them were there is guess it might have been about 30 like the CU game.
Imo it doesn't mean anything now.
The acc is still hot garbage. UK would constantly challenge to win that league. Its beyond terrible. Its literally mid major football.
Some of your takes are really nonsense..... actually most of them. The OP is discussing your conference's POOR record in bowls this year. Weak!
We certainly wouldn't have challenged this 2024 season. We also wouldn't get the same level of recruits we get from the sec brand.
I agree it's a glorified mid major though and if and when fsu and Clemson leave it really will be. The uk/fsu fan won't defend the acc once his team leaves.
I've fallen away from supporting our SEC brethren in OOC contests. It was once important to me, but not anymore. Their loss is our gain.
The conference tribalism in CFB is unique in sports.
It doesn’t exist at any other level. Bears aren’t beating their chest for what Pack and Lions are doing.
In high school you didn’t root for your division/region rivals.
Hell it doesn’t even really exist in any other collegiate sports. Baseball, volleyball, soccer, even men’s basketball nobody really cheers for or against conferences like they do in football.
There is general acknowledgment of strength or lack there of, but that’s about it.
It doesn’t exist at any other level. Bears aren’t beating their chest for what Pack and Lions are doing.
In high school you didn’t root for your division/region rivals.
Hell it doesn’t even really exist in any other collegiate sports. Baseball, volleyball, soccer, even men’s basketball nobody really cheers for or against conferences like they do in football.
There is general acknowledgment of strength or lack there of, but that’s about it.
I hated that SEC chant more than anything
Maybe but Georgia needed multiple overtimes to beat Georgia Tech.
Last year, UK lost to the sixth place ACC team in their bowl game. FSU demolished LSU and their Heisman winner and beat Florida last year. It was not good this year but they obviously have had Clemson and FSU teams that have had success in the last decade.
Are you saying you don't think any ACC team to ever exist could have made it through SEC play without 3-4 losses or just this year? Because this is an absurd take if you're talking all time. In fact, the SEC wasn't anything special until the mid 2000s and then it got promoted like crazy on television in the Tebow era.
In the 90s, the SEC West was nothing special after 1992. The East was the the top division. Then it flipped for many years and the East would go to crap.
All of the 90s FSU teams would've been fine in the SEC. The Clemson teams that won national titles in 2016 and 2018 would've been fine as well especially the 2018 one that blew Bama out in the championship by 30.
Its a huge advantage only playing one or two tough games a season. It lets you load up on those games and keep everyone healthy.
In the sec every game is a war. The physical and emotional grind is unreal.
I addressed the bowl games in my post. I don't think you can take anything from bowl games nowadays. Everyone has so many people sitting out, coaching changes, etc.
I root for the conference in a vacuum, in the present.
I will root for teams to win games, but not be good.
I want Vandy to beat Georgia Tech. I want Texas to beat Clemson.
I want Alabama to beat Wisconsin.
But I don't want them to get better to do it again next year.
Kentucky is good in basketball and still root for SEC in tourney.
Somebody's got to be the best conference, might as well be the one we're in.
I will root for teams to win games, but not be good.
I want Vandy to beat Georgia Tech. I want Texas to beat Clemson.
I want Alabama to beat Wisconsin.
But I don't want them to get better to do it again next year.
Kentucky is good in basketball and still root for SEC in tourney.
Somebody's got to be the best conference, might as well be the one we're in.
I was talking about regular season games.
Pre super conference is a different discussion. For so many years, the east sucked. Georgia could just beat the piss out of their division cause getting to face down teams of Tennessee and Florida then have SC, Kentucky, and Vandy as automatic wins with OOC schedules like UT Martin, Ball State, and UAB (I'm referencing 2023 just as an example), isn't a crazy grind. Now the west had more of an argument with Bama, LSU, Auburn, and Ole Miss sometimes. Those teams are typically good but the conference was always top heavy where it's about two really good teams and then everything under is nothing special.
Texas and Oklahoma coming to the conference and adding more SEC games with no divison makes it a different argument *throw in the NIL/portal stuff and it's even crazier) but still, no one in the SEC has looked amazing this year. No one looks amazing in the entire sport. Probably the first time in forever that many can say that.
When Va Tech and Miami were brought in, that looked like it would be a solid football conference. That hasn't really worked out as times changed. My point is- just by default being in the SEC doesn't make you good or your schedule tough. Texas is a perfect example of that this year. They don't have a single win over a current ranked team this season.
ok - they play football in the ACC? I thought they were just like Kentucky - only basketball seems to matter!
Go Big Blue1
Still talking moral victories? Really kind of pitiful when you are living through a team that played a close game, and still lost.
This is what happened, Tech wanted to win to cap their season, it was their super bowl. To UGA it was a game to finish the season. But when it was shut time, who went home with a loss? Wouldn't surprise me if Boise plays a closer game in the playoffs than either of the ACC teams did. How did it turn out last time Louisville played UGA?
UGA had Oklahoma scheduled in 23, SEC office had it canceled because it could have cause issues in 24, we have play multiple h and with Clemson, had ND Hand H. FSU was in the ACC because Bobby wanted no part of plying weekly in the SEC. The conference was so weak FSU won the ACC something alone the lines of 8 out of 10 years. It's barely above a mid major right now and thei ooc record shows that. If FSU could leave they would be out by dark today.
The SEC doing well does show we're better than most with our record. However, I'm for others in conference losing, so the talent of other SEC teams diminish and helps us be more competitive. And most of all, the SEC regularly screws us and doesn't do us any favors in basketball. The latter is why I don't care a whole lot how the SEC does OOC.
What I'm trying to relate is the ACC teams would have to play such a difficult schedule most years in the SEC they'd have more than 2 losses most of the time. When you go through the year with only a couple tough games rather than possibly getting beat in any game it makes a difference. Hopefully one of your ACC teams will get in one day and we'll see hoe you do.
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