The Fall of Calipari
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The same things were said when we went to the NIT a few years back. The following year we were playing in the championship game. The year after that, we went 39-1...
In four out of the last 5 years, we finished in the top 10 in the final AP rankings and the year we did not, we finished 17th. We were built to make a long run in the tourney last year before they shut things down.
One bad year where he lost his entire team and needing to implement his strategies in a shortened and weird season and not having a point guard ready to lead the team that it needs does not make it a reason to clean house. Look around...the majority of the blue bloods are struggling this year, not just UK.
It is still the fringe fans who have been spoiled by Cal's success who are the ones who are complaining the loudest.
In four out of the last 5 years, we finished in the top 10 in the final AP rankings and the year we did not, we finished 17th. We were built to make a long run in the tourney last year before they shut things down.
One bad year where he lost his entire team and needing to implement his strategies in a shortened and weird season and not having a point guard ready to lead the team that it needs does not make it a reason to clean house. Look around...the majority of the blue bloods are struggling this year, not just UK.
It is still the fringe fans who have been spoiled by Cal's success who are the ones who are complaining the loudest.
I know a few donors. Have been told that these type of emails and phone calls are happening. Will they amount to anything?...who knows.
What the media shows is the left picture. How she really was is in the right picture. He looks like a nice guy. And oh yea btw she was fired as an EMT in 2016.
What it boils down to is if this were some white woman in shivley, Portland, Greenwood rd area (used to live in this area before it became Wayyy too overrun with crime and drug addicts) , valley downs, some trailer park or other heavily populated poor trash white area with a white meth dealer boyfriend... and both had been trailed and proven to be at least somewhat involved in drug trafficking... it would have ended the exact same way.
By and large most police are good but there ARE asshole cops and these asshole cops shoot and kill more white people than anybody. They also shoot and kill black people, and Hispanics. There are some legit issues that need to be addressed for sure but this wide blanket “defund and abolish all police!” Is ridiculous and counterproductive.
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While the President and the AD publicly supported what he did, privately we don't know what happened.
Clearly there was enough backlash that Cal had to address it and admit the timing was bad.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear he was told under no circumstances is he to do anything like that again, but publicly they supported enpowering the players to exercise their right to protest. They had to because Cal had already put the national spotlight on them. The fastest way to let this die down was to move past it.
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Who chooses to lose his whole team every year? Do you read comment sections about kentucky basketball? The normal everyday fans on there say the same stuff the “fringe” do verbatim. The “majority” of the blue bloods are struggling? UNC and Kansas are tourney teams duke and UK suck. That’s not a majority that’s a split.Who chose to offer Askew? Built to make a long run? The point guard was suspended the 2nd to last game of the year for almost fighting his teammates in the locker room and refusing to go in.
I don't think the same things were said about the NIT year
First, we were just coming off a national championship, so losing a team of veterans and star players that resulted in a depleted squad the following year is perfectly acceptable, secondly we lost our star player to a injury. We weren't setting the world on fire up to that point but we were definitely a tournament team until the injury and we still managed to win 21 games that year. There was an understanding as to why we were losing and given the circumstances the fans weren't happy but were tolerant of it.
so I think your take is more about propping up your argument now than what actually happened that season.
Losing to Robert Morris was embarrassing for the program but coming off a title year before no one was concerned about the state of the program...so no...the same things weren't said back then. It was a completely different situation and attitude about the program and Calipari.
If I had been the AD or the President of UK, I would have told he will issue an apology asap, and I would have told the team, if there is another incident like that one, that the season will be shut down and they will not be living in the basketball lodge.
The things you allow, you will have to put up with. This should have never happened.
can't do it, it would have created a media sensation, you'd have bus loads of agitators descending on Lexington determined to prove their woke credentials
While I don't like what they said, I understand how the president and barnhart handled it. The fans are upset, but what is done is done - and giving it life longer than it needs to would have just scorched the fanbase and cost the program much much more than it did. Any confrontational statement would have resulted in students and administration and most likely a bunch of out of state people protesting on campus.
While I agree completely with you as to the results if UK would have done what Cawood86 said.....I also agree with his post as well. Question is, in this and other areas of society, where/when do you draw the line?
Unless they don't want to draw said line.
I’ve been a fan for my entire life. I’ve never voluntarily missed a game. I could care less about the BLM or flag stuff. In fact, I see that as a highlight of the season. Blind Nationalism is stupid.
However, I’m not watching another game until Cal either makes drastic changes, or gtfo of Lexington. This season, along with the first half of last season, along with the Duke ass whooping we took in 2018, is unacceptable at Kentucky.
Having to shy away from talking about being a UK fan, or having to preface it with “I know we suck”, is an embarrassment, and is unacceptable here. We have to hold the program to the highest of standards. This ain’t it.
However, I’m not watching another game until Cal either makes drastic changes, or gtfo of Lexington. This season, along with the first half of last season, along with the Duke ass whooping we took in 2018, is unacceptable at Kentucky.
Having to shy away from talking about being a UK fan, or having to preface it with “I know we suck”, is an embarrassment, and is unacceptable here. We have to hold the program to the highest of standards. This ain’t it.
One season? You been under a rock last 6 years? 500 against the top 25, in danger of losing the wins lead this year, roster turnovers every year, a coach talking down to the fans, getting beat by lesser teams in the tourney, k state and auburn and both teams were missing their best player. One season?
My current issues with Calipari outside of preparing a team (PikNRoll defense, Running Offensive Sets, etc) for a game comes down to his objectives matching up to the University of Kentucky's objectives - they currently don't. The interview with De'Aaron Fox back in January confirmed everything - the focus is on player development.
“When he’s able to get those guys, you find success,” Fox said. “Cal couldn’t give a damn about winning college basketball games. If he’s getting guys who he knows he can end up developing into NBA players, you’re automatically going to win 30 games a year just from that alone."
“We lost on a buzzer-beater,” Fox said. “Cal brings us in about 20 minutes after, he said, “All of y’all are gone.” Brought us all in there, said, “You’re done, you’re not coming back. If you need us, you have our numbers, we’ll help you with whatever, but you’re not playing another college basketball game.”‘
For Calipari, it's about grooming these kids for the NBA first and everything else will drop into place with wins and losses. Until that changes, I don't see a team consisting mainly of freshmen competing with the experienced teams in the country unless you have Wall, Cousins, and AD coming into Lexington at the same time.
“When he’s able to get those guys, you find success,” Fox said. “Cal couldn’t give a damn about winning college basketball games. If he’s getting guys who he knows he can end up developing into NBA players, you’re automatically going to win 30 games a year just from that alone."
“We lost on a buzzer-beater,” Fox said. “Cal brings us in about 20 minutes after, he said, “All of y’all are gone.” Brought us all in there, said, “You’re done, you’re not coming back. If you need us, you have our numbers, we’ll help you with whatever, but you’re not playing another college basketball game.”‘
For Calipari, it's about grooming these kids for the NBA first and everything else will drop into place with wins and losses. Until that changes, I don't see a team consisting mainly of freshmen competing with the experienced teams in the country unless you have Wall, Cousins, and AD coming into Lexington at the same time.
Another whiner heard from. What are you gonna do about it? Whine some more? must lead some miserable lives.
Doing nothing is condoning it imo. It's why we have nutjobs dressing as women who are men and vice versa. It's why they have drag queens going to elementary schools and reading to kids.
So it's win it all or a bad year every year? Werent we 25-6 ranked in top 10 heading into the SEC tournament last year? Gonna name you king of Les Miserables. that's a book.
Sounds to me like you're just a racist boomer. I'm no fan of Cal, but BLM is not what is wrong with the program... at all. It has zero impact on the court. It's kinda sad to see some people long for the Good Ole Days... they aren't coming back old man.
Trust me. I have heard nothing frim this group having a problem with storming the capital. But let some 18 year old kids do something peaceful makes them turn their back on something they have supported all their lives. Another thing. dont put all boomers in a common group. Stereotyping is as bad as racism
I ain't gonna waste time on you junior....go bother someone else
You guys are really bad at trolling. I'd say you're bad at a lot of things. Life mostly.
I before E except after C. Junior
No need to try and sound intelligent now junior....as with most everything else....it's too late for you
LOL I’m willing to bet you NEVER use the word “astute” in daily conversation. You’re simply using it because you think it makes you sound intelligent? I guess?
What does that even mean? You’re surprised or impressed with his... comment? Because he’s from Harlan county? Is that what you mean?
lmao we get what you were trying to do but it failed miserably.
Edit- your comment history is atrocious and you’re not worth anybody’s time. I will allow you to have the last word here- I won’t even bother reading your reply (you will still reply tho).
I suggest everyone else ignore this clown as well. It’s clear he’s an angry, bitter and lonely physically unattractive man who attempts to rile people up via obscure and subtle political jabs.
It’s desperate.
Genuinely feel sorry for ya man. Be well.
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Thanks brother. This is probably some re-tread with no life. Ignore is where I;m putting him.
This is exactly the problem. Winning games isn't an objective of his anymore. Taking care of the program isn't an objective. Only getting them ready for the draft. If there were no NBA there is no way that our roster would look like it does. He's not recruiting or coaching to win games. To me this is deliberate malpractice.
...says the guy who stereotypes someone because of where they live. You can't make this stuff up. Comedy gold.
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