Absolutely spot on. Been a fan for 66 years a d. Been on the message boards from the beginning.
The Fall of Calipari
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People just don't seem to get why people are upset. I'm sure Cal is thinking and seeing it this way as well. That's why I do not believe he will change.
Just imagine how big it was for Cal to land Anthony Davis at UK. Probably he’s biggest move in his UK career.
No one will convince me Cal doesn’t want to win. That’s core to who he is. He won’t change because fans are complaining on a message board, he will change in the ways that he thinks will help him win.
Tell me one thing Cal has changed since '15? Still cries NBA at the drop of a hat. Still talks NBA contracts and money. Still has the Pro day to start the season. Still plays guys who are higher rated while others have to earn it. Nothing has changed and nothing will.
Offense still looks stagnant. Still refuses to play a zone for mora than a possession or two.
Keeps losing good assistants and keeps hiring buddies or former players.
I've not heard or seen anything that indicates he is willing or wanting to change.
No, it did not.
I agree, it was bad back then, but I still watched and sat on the edge of my seat the entire game. Now, I do not even watch.
I agree, it is the softest team I have witnessed in a Kentucky uniform. You nailed it. Weak wimps all of them. Especially Askew and Boston.
It will not be forgotten. You better bet your ass on that.
Think he knew what you meant
The difference between the good (and bad) old days is the player revolving door we have now and have had since Cal got here. Yes, when we had the really impactful players early on it was fun. However, even then for many fans it wasn't the same. There's no carry-over, no continuity, and no relationship established with the fans or school to speak of. If these mercenaries aren't really good it just sucks to watch.
Tl:dr
On court results trending down
Coach is not a right winger (but the assumption is 100 percent of the fanbase is)
Want new coach
On court results trending down
Coach is not a right winger (but the assumption is 100 percent of the fanbase is)
Want new coach
If by wimps you mean lifelong fans who refuse to allow our great basketball tradition to be railroaded by a self serving coach who doesn’t give two shits about said tradition, then that was the best post of the year!
BTW, how’s the weather in Detroit Brad?
Agree i have been a fan for 50 years Cant stand to watch any more because of Cal
Maybe if those same fans weren't so scared of equal rights they'd still be interested. People in this state get so upset when people of color voice their concerns or opinions but say nothing when cops cap a law abiding woman sitting in her home.
IF, he doesn't change then he will truly lose the fan base, not just ridiculous merch burning fringe.
Oh my god. Are you seriously still talking about race?
That's ridiculous. I would never let a coach ruin my passion for UK. That's on those people.
You may be educated, but you're extremely unintelligent.
Ok, if you don't like the site then find a new site.
massive injuries? Who recruited the PG?
Yeah, Brooks was out for the first third of the season and arguably our best player never got to get it going (Clarke).
I know Cal recruited Askew but he obviously took him because Cunningham didn't come.
Like ground hog day, year after year.
Seriously, you gonna go there pinhead? Beyond stupid. Sports is probably your IQ ceiling ... so leave it at that and you can thank me now.
Because let's be clear. It's a CAL FIRST Program....Not a "players first" and definitely not a "fans first" program. The "NBA DRAFT NIGHT" is only to stroke his ego. That's why he shows up there. Look at me...look at me
Oh and that yearly paycheck isn't bad either
You and your race mongering is wearing thin around here. Race has zero to do with it. Cal is white and I hold him more responsible than I do the players. I don’t care what color skin you have, when you dis-respect the flag and anthem, I got no use for you. Your total dis-respect for Kentuckians by throwing a blanket, “you are racist” out there constantly shows your lack of character.
I still love the Cats, but I have lost a bit of the fire lately. I don’t get mad when they lose anymore, which kind of scares me.
Nevertheless, I think Cal deserves the benefit of the doubt, but if he refuses to change his philosophy and things don’t improve, he needs to move on.
I am patient. I will give him this year as an aberration, but there needs to be some significant improvement next season or he will lose my support (not that he even cares, but just saying).
Nevertheless, I think Cal deserves the benefit of the doubt, but if he refuses to change his philosophy and things don’t improve, he needs to move on.
I am patient. I will give him this year as an aberration, but there needs to be some significant improvement next season or he will lose my support (not that he even cares, but just saying).
We all know Calipari needs to improve and adapt but how much change can one realistically expect in 1 year after the worst year in a century? Of course everyone knows he's back next year and with his contract beyond next season, UK is SOL if things don't change and would be up to him to leave UK early to get out of the deal.
An 8-10 loss season in the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 would be a huge jump but simply does not cut it for UK standards. I feel this is the best we can hope for with Calipari in the future and that worries the hell out of me. I don't think his brand of basketball and coaching philosophy without the very best of 5 star recruits is sustainable enough for many 5 loss or fewer seasons with Final 4 trips.
We'll still have a segment of the fan base who will act like Cal is the Grand Poobah if he merely finishes above .500 so long as they can throw it in our faces there was a slight improvement from the year before. The same ones when the Cats flame out in the Sweet 16 or lose to an inferior opponent in the Elite 8 point back to January saying look how bad we were then and how far they got as if that's supposed to give us solace in losing. Then we'll do it all over again next year with roster turnover and mass exodus. Rinse and repeat.
An 8-10 loss season in the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 would be a huge jump but simply does not cut it for UK standards. I feel this is the best we can hope for with Calipari in the future and that worries the hell out of me. I don't think his brand of basketball and coaching philosophy without the very best of 5 star recruits is sustainable enough for many 5 loss or fewer seasons with Final 4 trips.
We'll still have a segment of the fan base who will act like Cal is the Grand Poobah if he merely finishes above .500 so long as they can throw it in our faces there was a slight improvement from the year before. The same ones when the Cats flame out in the Sweet 16 or lose to an inferior opponent in the Elite 8 point back to January saying look how bad we were then and how far they got as if that's supposed to give us solace in losing. Then we'll do it all over again next year with roster turnover and mass exodus. Rinse and repeat.
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Watched the 78 game and never turned back, until now. Got a degree from UK, was a walk on in wrestling and football. Loved the Pitino teams, up tempo, fun to watch. Tubby ball, not so much. Enjoyed watching players develop over their careers, looked forward to who was coming back. Knew their names. OAD didn't appeal to me but was happy with the results the first 5 years. Now I just can't watch. Faces/names change so often I don't know them. No rhyme or reason to the offense - seems to be the Harlem Globetrotters weave at best, playground isolation the rest of the time. It's all just passed me by and I don't enjoy watching any more. Ran around the yard like a crazy man when we won in 2012, tore my UK shirt off when we lost in 2015. Now, meh... Don't like the political posturing and certainly not happy with the results. Not even frustrated any more, just numb from what it's become.
Law abiding woman? Heh, hardly. She was completely involved. Don't believe me, read the police transcripts. Not saying she deserved to die but she was not innocent.
True Story of BT
It's not some fringe....it's lifelong fans he's already lost. Believe it or not, sports is not above everything else for people.
He's undoing his whole time here in one year, and I'm not just talking about wins and losses.
I'm talking about folks who save their vacation days and money to travel all over the country to support UK. They do it because of the passion and love they have for Kentucky basketball. Cal has killed that.
He slowly deconstructed UK to fit his mold and his preferences, all the while talking of the lore and tradition of UK while he did it. The people kind of raised their eyebrow but not much else because the 1st 6 years were magical.
However, the last 5 years have been lacking. His words began to ring hollow. Early tourney exits and losing as much as he won against top teams. Players leaving. Players not playing. Turmoil in the sidelines.
The little things that were overlooked begin to get bigger and the swaggy comments become snide remarks toward fans.
Undoing of Senior Day. Refusal to play home and homes instead opting for neutral site games. Putting players NBA dreams ahead of overrall team success.
This is my longest post in a long while on here, but Cal decided somewhere along the way to make UK his personal NBA tryout team and took the tradition of UK from Top in the country to just about getting to the NBA.
Fans that are not happy and feel their UK of yesterday is gone and that do not like the UK of today, are now labeled as fringe.
Cal's transforming UK and dividing the fanbase has broken something that the point shaving scandal and the probation couldn't do, it's taken the passion away. If that keeps happening, UK is no longer the top of the heap, but just another log in the pile, because this fanbase has no peer.
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