The earth is a flat, non spinning realm, not a planet in an infinite universe

[roguemocha]

So you're saying I couldn't buy a boat and circumnavigate the Earth starting in Florida and ending back up in Florida?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Find a photo taken of the coast of "Antarctica" from a boat.

ok, the pictures show myriad topography from rocky coastlines to sheer ice cliffs. You're saying that Antarctica encircles earth on the outer edge, correct?

 

[Brushy Bill]

So you're saying I couldn't buy a boat and circumnavigate the Earth starting in Florida and ending back up in Florida?

I'm saying go for it and take pictures and video.

 

[Brushy Bill]

ok, the pictures show myriad topography from rocky costlines to sheer ice cliffs. You're saying that Antarctica encircles earth on the outer edge, correct?

Yes

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Ok and it doesn't connect to any main lands anywhere, so there is always water then the ice wall, correct?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Yes

By the way, how big and how far away are the moon and sun?

 

[Brushy Bill]

By the way, how big and how far away are the moon and sun?

How big and how far are unknowns at the moment, there are researchers trying to figure this stuff out though. For 500 or so years wrong assumptions have been used to drive certain areas of research and stifle others. Distance to and size of the heavenly bodies is one of these areas.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

How big and how far are unknowns at the moment, there are researchers trying to figure this stuff out though. For 500 or so years wrong assumptions have been used to drive certain areas of research and stifle others. Distance to and size of the heavenly bodies is one of these areas.

Ok, what about the other question.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

How big and how far are unknowns at the moment, there are researchers trying to figure this stuff out though. For 500 or so years wrong assumptions have been used to drive certain areas of research and stifle others. Distance to and size of the heavenly bodies is one of these areas.

You seem stuck on that question so I'll ask another. Does gravity exist?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

How big and how far are unknowns at the moment, there are researchers trying to figure this stuff out though. For 500 or so years wrong assumptions have been used to drive certain areas of research and stifle others. Distance to and size of the heavenly bodies is one of these areas.

I'm not trying to be difficult in any way. I'm trying to fully understand your vision of our world. There are lots of issues to discuss.

 

[BlueThruAndThru]

there are researchers trying to figure this stuff out though.

That's you and me, Bill.

What's the status on our balloons, cameras and fancy lasers? We gotta get you up there.

The truth will always win out!!!

 

[mdlUK.1]

Ok, I'll ask again. WHY would everyone lie about this? And don't give me the religion argument. There are way too many scientists that are atheists or agnostics.

 

[augustaky1]

I guess I was wrong.

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not.

I guess I was wrong.

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not.

I really have to know, what is a "geosynchronous low earth orbit"?

I do not think there is such a thing. Either I do not understand geosynchronous orbit or the guy in the video does not.

I don't think geosynchronous and low earth orbit are remotely in the same category. Help me out here.

I know he is trying to make a joke; but come on, at least have a clue.

 

[roguemocha]

I'm saying go for it and take pictures and video.

You don't think hundreds if not thousands of people haven't already accomplished this? I'm fairly certain someone has done this and documented it.

 

[NewEraCATS]

What do you believe is on the backside of earth? who TF knows, no one's ever been there.

That's what you think? That's where the Hitler went. Him and the Nazis have been hiding and plotting their return since the 1950s. If you think I'm wrong then prove it.

 

[NewEraCATS]

PROOF for the FLAT EARTHERS.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Where did OP go? I'm not done with my questions. It was just getting interesting.

 

[MegaBlue05]

I found a bunch of Earths in my car.

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OP is the best wingnut parody account I've seen here in a while.

Kudos to you, whichever Paddock regular created this hilarious alias.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

In case anyone is wondering, this link shows a picture of what flat earthers believe. It also has a lot of explanations. It truly boggles my mind but I do find their position fascinating. Hopefully OP will come back and we can continue the discussion.

http://www.livescience.com/24310-flat-earth-belief.html

 

[BlueThruAndThru]

In case anyone is wondering, this link shows a picture of what flat earthers believe. It also has a lot of explanations. It truly boggles my mind but I do find their position fascinating. Hopefully OP will come back and we can continue the discussion.

http://www.livescience.com/24310-flat-earth-belief.html

The OP and I have been working on acquiring balloons, cameras and fancy lasers so that we can disprove the round earth know-nothings.

He won't tell me how the mission is going but no news is good news. We should be operational soon and then we can start taking the necessary measurements.

Gonna be sweet seeing the rubes' worldview crumble... or should I say flatten out.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

The OP and I have been working on acquiring balloons, cameras and fancy lasers so that we can disprove the round earth know-nothings.

He won't tell me how the mission is going but no news is good news. We should be operational soon and then we can start taking the necessary measurements.

Gonna be sweet seeing the rubes' worldview crumble... or should I say flatten out.

Yep, maybe a gofundme so we can get the ball rolling.

 

[BlueThruAndThru]

Yep, maybe a gofundme so we can get the ball rolling.

Alright!

Another convert.

OP will be pleased. Yes, he will be pleased.

 

[Brushy Bill]

You don't think hundreds if not thousands of people haven't already accomplished this? I'm fairly certain someone has done this and documented it.

Ask a stupid question, get an appropriate response.

 

[Brushy Bill]

I really have to know, what is a "geosynchronous low earth orbit"?

I do not think there is such a thing. Either I do not understand geosynchronous orbit or the guy in the video does not.

I don't think geosynchronous and low earth orbit are remotely in the same category. Help me out here.

I know he is trying to make a joke; but come on, at least have a clue.

 

[Brushy Bill]

You seem stuck on that question so I'll ask another. Does gravity exist?

I answer questions at my leisure not upon request.

Gravity doesn't exist. Space doesn't exist. Planets don't exist. Satellites as we commonly know them don't exist. NASA is full of liars and useful idiots. Pretty standard, biggest conspiracy in the history of mankind so (((they))) can hide got from us, stuff, no biggie.

 

[Brushy Bill]

Ok and it doesn't connect to any main lands anywhere, so there is always water then the ice wall, correct?

Correct

 

[Brushy Bill]

I found a bunch of Earths in my car.

OP is the best wingnut parody account I've seen here in a while.

Kudos to you, whichever Paddock regular created this hilarious alias.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

I answer questions at my leisure not upon request.

Gravity doesn't exist. Space doesn't exist. Planets don't exist. Satellites as we commonly know them don't exist. NASA is full of liars and useful idiots. Pretty standard, biggest conspiracy in the history of mankind so (((they))) can hide got from us, stuff, no biggie.

You do realize I can walk outside with my telescope and see most planets in our solar system, right? It's one thing to disagree with opinion, it's another to disagree with fact. Jupiter us particularly easy. How do you explain that?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Correct

So, when you circle the earth do you go clockwise or counterclockwise?

 

[Brushy Bill]

You do realize I can walk outside with my telescope and see most planets in our solar system, right? It's one thing to disagree with opinion, it's another to disagree with fact. Jupiter us particularly easy. How do you explain that?

Planets don't exist, the so called planets are 'wandering' stars and we don't know what stars are for sure although I believe they are pockets of sound inside the waters of the firmament.

 

[Brushy Bill]

So, when you circle the earth do you go clockwise or counterclockwise?

Is this a serious question?

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Is this a serious question?

Yep, you said its surrounded by ice walls and there is a water gap, so you can easily circle the earth. You can go either direction, it doesn't matter to me, pick one.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Planets don't exist, the so called planets are 'wandering' stars and we don't know what stars are for sure although I believe they are pockets of sound inside the waters of the firmament.

You're testing my ability to believe you're serious with that one.

 

[JDHoss]

Ok, I'll ask again. WHY would everyone lie about this? And don't give me the religion argument. There are way too many scientists that are atheists or agnostics.

Bill is trolling. You have to take it in the spirit it's intended. Tough I'll admit, it was a lot more fun when I thought he might actually be bat guano crazy.

 

[Brushy Bill]

Yep, you said its surrounded by ice walls and there is a water gap, so you can easily circle the earth. You can go either direction, it doesn't matter to me, pick one.

Go up and look at that picture you posted and tell me if it matters which way you travel.

 

[BlueThruAndThru]

I know I'm not alone when I say that I enjoy the mental gymnastics that must be utilized to explain the sun, moon, planets, tides, satellites, Antarctica, etc. when a round earth with a 23 degree tilt, a revolving moon and a heliocentric solar system pretty much explains it in a nice and neat package.

Nothing can be that simple!!!

 

[Brushy Bill]

You're testing my ability to believe you're serious with that one.

I don't care if you believe I'm serious or not. Now ask something new, that I haven't been asked, or go read the thread I'm not going to rehash my entire argument just for you.

 

[Brushy Bill]

I know I'm not alone when I say that I enjoy the mental gymnastics that must be utilized to explain the sun, moon, planets, tides, satellites, Antarctica, etc. when a round earth with a 23 degree tilt, a revolving moon and a heliocentric solar system pretty much explains it in a nice and neat package.

Nothing can be that simple!!!

And yet, tell me how you can see Chicago for 60 miles away over water?
Or the La Superdome from 17 miles away over water?
Or Dubai from 70 miles away over sandy desert?
How did we get through the Van Allen belts without killing the astronauts?
Why is every picture taken within earths atmosphere with a standard lens flat?

"Science" is not on your side partner.

 

[BlueThruAndThru]

And yet, tell me how you can see Chicago for 60 miles away over water?
Or the La Superdome from 17 miles away over water?
Or Dubai from 70 miles away over sandy desert?
How did we get through the Van Allen belts without killing the astronauts?
Why is every picture taken within earths atmosphere with a standard lens flat?

"Science" is not on your side partner.

You forget yourself, sir.

I am on your side.

Your logic is infallible. Your arguments compelling. You're more thoughtful, intelligent and inquisitive than:

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ABDUS SALAM
CARLO RUBBIA
SIMON VAN DER MEER


To name but a few.

And for this, I applaud you, sir.

 

[Phil_The_Music]

I'm saying go for it and take pictures and video.

It's a trap! Any video or picture evidence you post he will discard because....fish eye lense.