Congratulations - one of the worst posts I've ever read on this site. Bravo.
FB Recruiting Take it down: The case for cleansing the rafters
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Congratulations - one of the worst posts I've ever read on this site. Bravo.
You're the one who is attacking people who disagree with you and you're simultaneously calling people childish. There are good and fantastic people in every fan base and there are "pathetic" people in every fan base. But there's just as wide a spectrum on both sides of this argument. It seems like you're unwilling to accept (once again) that on a judgment call that's absolutely not shared by everyone, you just want everyone to agree with you.
The most glaring thing in this whole discussion is the inability of some in the "keep the banner up" camp to actually stick to the argument, without making it personal or getting overly emotional. Some on the other side are that way, too, but I'd expect that as well. It's just that the "keep it up" position seems largely represented by people who are advertising themselves as mild-mannered and able to see the big picture, but the tactics/emotions are quite different than that.
Well said Rowland. I think you should stick to your day job as well because of do a pretty darn good job at it lol. Upstate must be a Pitino goon.
RP certainly has his transgressions over the last few years, as well as losing a best friend/brother in law on 9/11, and burying a son. He has been through a lot personally, and I think it only makes him human . . . just like the rest of us. I'm not perfect, so I won't cast stones. I appreciate his time here. Carry on.
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You think burying a child and losing his best friend makes him more of a jerk? That doesn't make much sense.
His banner represents what he accomplished at UK, nothing more or less. And while some of my comments borderline "childish", people wanting it removed solely to due to his affiliation with UL is just as childish. His accomplishments at UK is fact, my opinion for keeping his banner up is based on that. You don't think people egging him on afterwards isn't childish? Again I ask, what's the point in doing it? There are times UK fans deserve ridicule, this is one of those times.
You need to read more on this site. There's plenty worse than what I've written, even in this thread.
No. I edited it so that hopefully it makes more sense. He's been through a lot. Probably more than many of us could handle personally (9/11 and loss of a child). One of those is hard enough as it is. I don't hold anything against him. I appreciate what he did for our program while he was here.
In the opinion piece I acknowledged that according to the criteria youre using then your conclusion makes sense. The key distinction is that its simply not true to say that every reasonable person agrees on what the reasoning behind banners should be.
You should probably leave then. You clearly don't bring much to the site either.
I don't care what they do with the banner. As someone else pointed out, there are other coaches up there other than Rupp in Hall and Pitino had a better run at UK than Hall, so that weakens that. Tubby will probably get up there as well, despite having a weaker resume than either Pitino or Hall. Certainly Cal will as well...so I do not think the no coach other than Rupp deserve it is fair. The reasons people want to take it down have nothing to do with what happened at UK so I think that weakens the argument a bit as well. Again, I'm fine with it either way as Pitino has been an embarrassment to college basketball on and off during his tenure at UL with his lying, and cheating. He clearly hates UK fans and Coach Cal and the success he has had at UK, but the feeling is clearly mutual on our end. It is an interesting debate, but overall one I think is more for the watercooler fans and won't seriously ever be considered.
we could move the Pitino, Farmer, Woods, Feldhaus, Pelphrey banners to Memorial to make room for AD, John Wall, etc.
It's absurd that the rules were bent for an Elite 8 team, but not for 1st Team All Americans.
It's absurd that the rules were bent for an Elite 8 team, but not for 1st Team All Americans.
A criteria has apparently been set by UK to hang the banner. Should it be left to the fans for who stays and who goes?
No doubt Rick is a lightening rod to the fanbase. It never bothered me that he took the UL job, anything UL doesn't bother me. They'll never be the level that UK is at, no matter how hard they try. I don't like Cal the same way some didn't like Rick. I hate his schtick, he panders to the UK fanbase like a pathetic politician, and he knows we'll eat it up. Do i think he's done a great job at UK? Hell yeah, he's not without his flaws though. He's a better coach than most give credit for. I think Cal is a good guy, just not a big fan of his. He just happens to coach the team I root for.
as much as I would like to see it removed it won't. what I would like and this is just a dream. is for him to publicly apologize to the fans for his finger wave, have his tard tattoo removed and admit he shouldn't have taken the retard job. or the banner comes down. in all honesty he doesn't give a rats ass about uk anymore it was very evident when he got the tattoo for tards. to me he is just another coach that I don't like, kinda like eddie Sutton and bcg . they are like George Washington and abe Lincoln to me. HISTORY. what a lot of coaches don't understand....ky makes them them the top coach not the coach that makes ky.
I try and bring perspective. I try and not to look at UK through blue tinted glasses. Many on here should try and do the same. I'll continue to speak my piece until a Mod feels otherwise.
Too many haters in this world. UK has more than it's share judging from internet sites. In real life you don't find that to be true Fans there are pretty level headed.
Leave his banner and wish him well.
Leave his banner and wish him well.
Pitino did his job very well during the years that he was the Kentucky coach.
Whatever he did before and after has no bearing on that.
Whatever he did before and after has no bearing on that.
Not sure I understand. Since Rupp, we have 2 outstanding coaches: Pitino and Cal. We have had 2 that were quite good: Tubby and Hall. We have have 2 that were disasters: Sutton, BCG.
Pitino and Cal both came when we had disasters to fix. If we hadn't hired the right coach both times, UK could very easily be a another IU.
Hmmm....
Betcha fans at practically every school in the country has engaged the opposing coach from time to time.
I really can't remember an opposing coach giving the fans the finger, though.
Pitino did.
You need to not carry your feelings on your shoulder. He did what he did when he was at UK. Who cares about how big of a fool he makes himself look like while he is at UL. In my mind he is damaging their program but Jurich has sold his soul to the devil to a) make a name for himself and b)have winning programs. Leave him be.........I am quite enjoying the whole situation over at UL.
If only more people understood the concept of "taking the high road" I really think the world would be a better place...
While I am a Pitino fan, I have enjoyed his trainwreck at UL immensely. I'm not privy to all the snide remarks he's supposedly made about UK, don't care. He knew he screwed up leaving UK and that's good enough for me.
how could he have learned anything about us? he never even tried to embrace the BBN; thought he was too good and above a bunch of hillbilly rednecks.
I have only read your posts for the first time today and its obvious you get off on bashing UK fans like you are somehow better than everyone as you've done in multiple threads. Get the **** over yourself message board tough guy.
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And right after you said "oh sorry, I forgot it's not very PC to let the majority rule..." whatever that means
Pretty clear what you were saying.
Your ignorance is blinding UpState. You do realize The OP is a professional writer and one of Rivals leading site managers. Everybody else with an ounce of sense also understood his reference do "Providence to Lexington" had to do with his upgrade in college jobs not Pro.
And it's alright if you little NY types make fun of UK fans, cause we do the same with guys like you who couldn't be more predictable in their take and attitude. You couldn't have been a better example of just why most Kentuckians has to force themselves to tolerate Pitino even when he was winning here. Arrogance personified.
And it's alright if you little NY types make fun of UK fans, cause we do the same with guys like you who couldn't be more predictable in their take and attitude. You couldn't have been a better example of just why most Kentuckians has to force themselves to tolerate Pitino even when he was winning here. Arrogance personified.
I thank it should be removed, he has no use for UK if he had he would have never became Ky biggest rival, he could have went to any school and coached, that just show how much he thanks of himself, those banner should be for coaches with character..
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If your wife ran off with someone you hated would you still keep her picture on the wall? Take it down; the jerk has done nothing but insult our program.
There it is. You're a fan of Pitino. You're just ignorant to the rest of what he's said and done according to you. So your post is in of itself ignorant. Nothing else is important.
We would be stupid to take it down. Pitino brought us thru some tough times, hell, he brought pat Patterson in and had us back to national prominence in 2 years. Pitino haters need to get over it
I'm sure not a Pitino fan, but I remember what a mess UK was in after Sutton left. Pitino left us for $50 million, which I think most of us would have done the same thing. Look around at the coaches that have left college for the pros. Pitino, Saban, Spurrier, and the names go on and on.
We had a coach, and he had won a National Championship, when Pitino took the job at UofL. He has acknowledged that leaving UK was one of the biggest mistakes he ever made. I for one, wish he had not left, because I think we would have a couple more Championship Banners hanging up there.
I don't think his banner should come down. I think were bigger then that, and have more class then to give someone the "bird". I thought it was funny that someone could get under his skin.
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We had a coach, and he had won a National Championship, when Pitino took the job at UofL. He has acknowledged that leaving UK was one of the biggest mistakes he ever made. I for one, wish he had not left, because I think we would have a couple more Championship Banners hanging up there.
I don't think his banner should come down. I think were bigger then that, and have more class then to give someone the "bird". I thought it was funny that someone could get under his skin.
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