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Stoops Signed New Contract - Bigger Buyout and Extension

If my math is correct, that is a $68 million deal over 8 years. Wonder what the Buyout is?? Great defensive Coach IMO. However never has had his own identity on Offense. Hence will be looking at the Transfer Portal again, to run who's offense?? It sure as heck is not Stoop's offense. Outside observers look at this and say Hum?? Perhaps he should hire his retired brother Bob as a Consultant in some way? That might help, as his brother Bob put plenty of points on the Board. Just saying.
Bob was just like Mark till I guess he had a come to Jesus moment and repented of his ways. Won him a natty and winningest Coach in Oklahoma history. Folks there love him.
 
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If I understood CMS on his Monday nite call in show he was asked bout a special teams coach-his response several contribute but it’s on him. If he had a coordinator that had a unit as bad as ST are this yr he’d been fired. Guess what CMS got a raise n extension. Go figure what’s wrong I’m not saying he should b fired but like the offense we are making mistakes n nothing is changing after yrs of the same problems. What’s the old saying “either 💩 or get off the pot”!
 
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This is malfeasance and mismanagement by this AD. Bottom line is that Mitch is growing older and lazier and it's just easier to ignore facts and reward Stoops inadequacies with a raise and contract extension than the thought of finding a replacement in a few years. IMO, a very disappointing and sad day for this program. We can do much better than Mark Stoops. The dissent will begin to be focused on Barnhart as the real problem, that he is. To reward this with more money and time is unacceptable. Ten years into the Stoops tenure and we have this season and then comes a major bonus of money for the guilty party. I wonder if he gave himself a raise as well?
 
I remember when Billy Donavan was payed higher at UF than their fb coach. Seemed odd. Of course in the SEC, you need to pay for the quality fb assistants.
 
I’m not against working with
I love how some of our fans think we couldn’t get an extremely high level coach to come here for $9mil/year.
yeah I mean I’m not advocating that stoops shouldn’t be here but the guy shouldn’t be held onto with bad contracts just because we’re scared. The way you frame it is correct. Somebody think we can’t get a competitive coach at 8+ mil with the facilities we have now being comparable to everybody else? With 3 easy mac wins and Louisville being mediocre on the schedule? That’s about to change but it’s about to change for stoops too.

Not that I ‘dislike’ stoops but Mitch liking someone goes a long way too. Just look at Mingione.
 
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Also sets a precident that we'll pay as much as any school in the country, helps when we do need a new coach, hopefully a ways down the road.

Money is irrelevant, Atheltics can afford basically anything. And would buy out Stoops easily if need be. I'm just glad they'll swing the fat wallet around for football now.
We pay top money and we do not have a top 50 coach.
 
Stoops truly has the best job in CFB!

He’s the sixth highest paid coach, and a lot of our fans are happy if we win six games and make a bowl. What other CFB job pays more with lower expectations?
Michigan State..., and Jimmy Sexton negotiated that contract, too.
 
THIS is finally the answer to if we are a basketball school.

And the answer is yes.

An extension? After this joke of a job in year 10? A bigger buyout?

Whoever okayed this...barnhart?? Should turn in their resignation immediately.
Actually, You would think he would’ve learned from giving cal that contract. The guy still coaches and recruits rosters like the game is still in 2010. And nothing can be done about it. Stoops may be on the same plan. We’ll see.
 
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What coach have we had with that extra 12 bunny game, a down sec east, the current commitment to football, and pretty much 6 easy wins?
no. Sorry… in the HISTORY of our program, who was the last coach to have 2 10 win season in a 4 year span?

the answer would be a name….not a different question…
 
no. Sorry… in the HISTORY of our program, who was the last coach to have 2 10 win season in a 4 year span?

the answer would be a name….not a different question…
Everyone knows the answer because we stopped investing in football once Bear Bryant left. Think about all the BS we've had to put up with versus our competition in the SEC due to a lack of commitment? The Brooks/Joker era recruiting room ring a bell? Happy cashing that SEC check w/Vandy effort.

Now we finally have a commitment to football and the playing field has leveled quite a bit as UT and FL have been very beatable his entire tenure.

Stoops has done very good for Kentucky but he's an average coach at best. Good recruiter and developer of talent. Bad in game coach, not a great motivator, and still hasn't figured out you have to play decent offense/ST to win.
 
Everyone knows the answer because we stopped investing in football once Bear Bryant left. Think about all the BS we've had to put up with versus our competition in the SEC due to a lack of commitment? The Brooks/Joker era recruiting room ring a bell? Happy cashing that SEC check w/Vandy effort.

Now we finally have a commitment to football and the playing field has leveled quite a bit as UT and FL have been very beatable his entire tenure.

Stoops has done very good for Kentucky but he's an average coach at best. Good recruiter and developer of talent. Bad in game coach, not a great motivator, and still hasn't figured out you have to play decent offense/ST to win.
I don’t necessarily disagree. Someone made a comment about how Stoops hadn’t won 10 games every year….just 2 of the last 4.

not sure if that was you or not….but was making the point that we owe stoops the chance to make this right…if not you’d better have a sure fire replacement plan….
 
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Everyone knows the answer because we stopped investing in football once Bear Bryant left. Think about all the BS we've had to put up with versus our competition in the SEC due to a lack of commitment? The Brooks/Joker era recruiting room ring a bell? Happy cashing that SEC check w/Vandy effort.

Now we finally have a commitment to football and the playing field has leveled quite a bit as UT and FL have been very beatable his entire tenure.

Stoops has done very good for Kentucky but he's an average coach at best. Good recruiter and developer of talent. Bad in game coach, not a great motivator, and still hasn't figured out you have to play decent offense/ST to win.
This is spot on assessment. Yea he’s done things but he’s also had more tools than other uK coaches before him have had. He clearly has some consistent coaching bugaboos that have been with him his entire tenure.
 
Some of our fans are complete idiots to think we can just toss him out and find a coach that wins 10 games annually. Just laughable.
And consistent with my prior thread, I think Stoops has made a major error.

I honestly think Kentucky has topped out at 10 wins, and that Stoops could and would do better elsewhere.

And there is no better or more invested Cat Football fan here . . . I know how to read recruiting rankings and Kentucky will never produce enough talent to produce a national champion, (nor enough talent to sustain 10 win seasons).

I guess the money talks, and I think he is happy, here, even though by remaining affixed to Kentucky, any realistic hope of winning a national title during his career is very likely gone.
 
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Everyone knows the answer because we stopped investing in football once Bear Bryant left.
When we hired Jerry Claiborne in 1982, his 400K contract was in the top 10 in the nation.

The completion of the first and second Nutter Centers gave us facilities then comparable to the top in the nation. Most SEC schools waiting for years after our Field House was built to have a comparable indoor facility.

There have been times we lagged (recruiting room and Coaches offices) but the story from 1953 ‘till 2013 is not as linear as you claim.
 
When we hired Jerry Claiborne in 1982, his 400K contract was in the top 10 in the nation.

The completion of the first and second Nutter Centers gave us facilities then comparable to the top in the nation. Most SEC schools waiting for years after our Field House was built to have a comparable indoor facility.

There have been times we lagged (recruiting room and Coaches offices) but the story from 1953 ‘till 2013 is not as linear as you claim.
We may have paid a salary or two but we didn't keep up the assistant salaries. We didn't keep up with recruiting budgets. We updated facilities but not at the same levels/pace as our SEC bretheren. We had a nice run in the late 70s when we were cheating but we got caught.

Kentucky's commitment to football has been garbage until recent years in comparison to the teams were trying to beat. You can split hairs and point out a stat here or there but it's painfully obvious. Stoops has had the financial support no other has had in UK football history.

By the way - still hearing that Auburn wants Pucker Butt?
 
This basically puts Stoops at Mel Tucker money.
Exactly...

SextonJimmy.ashx


Jimmy loves rollin' spineless ADs for Big $$$ ~ that gives Jimmy a bigger cut! Jimmy likes to buy things...
 
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Beating Vandy and having an exciting offense that throws passes beyond the line of scrimmage goes farther with recruiting than throwing money at a coach that no other big program wanted.
Well, we didn't beat Vandy. Neither did Florida, so apparently Vandy has a pulse suddenly. As far as your characterization of our passing philosophy and his opportunities are concerned, not sure I agree at all. You play the hand your dealt.
 
Just saw the article through KSR, $8.6million per year through 2030 for those who can’t see through the paywall.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, but that’s as insane as us giving Muschump a huge contract after one good year. Cost us a gazillion in buyouts. Stoops has had 10 years…not sure he’s reached 8.6 mil a year success level but whatever. He’s done a good job…but 8.6 screams great. Auburn was not coming after him.
 
Everyone knows the answer because we stopped investing in football once Bear Bryant left. Think about all the BS we've had to put up with versus our competition in the SEC due to a lack of commitment? The Brooks/Joker era recruiting room ring a bell? Happy cashing that SEC check w/Vandy effort.

Now we finally have a commitment to football and the playing field has leveled quite a bit as UT and FL have been very beatable his entire tenure.

Stoops has done very good for Kentucky but he's an average coach at best. Good recruiter and developer of talent. Bad in game coach, not a great motivator, and still hasn't figured out you have to play decent offense/ST to win.
Some of our fans are too hurt by our past to understand this.
 
I don’t have a dog in this fight, but that’s as insane as us giving Muschump a huge contract after one good year. Cost us a gazillion in buyouts. Stoops has had 10 years…not sure he’s reached 8.6 mil a year success level but whatever. He’s done a good job…but 8.6 screams great. Auburn was not coming after him.
I’d say most reasonable people would agree. The only person who thought Auburn wanted Stoops was the athletic director.
 
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