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Steve Jones; Marrow Would Like to Meet w/ UK Administration

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by UKfan215:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
Originally posted by UKfan215:
Losing Marrow at this point would not just be a blow to momentum, it would be an unmitigated DISASTER! Of all the 4 star players that have committed to play for UK or that have transferred to UK since Stoops has been here, 55.5% of them are here largely because of Marrow. Now tell me, how the hell are we going to replace that kind of production? We aren't an Alabama or a Michigan with rich tradition and unlimited football funds that would allow us to go out and hire a proven ace recruiter. And it is incredibly doubtful that we could find anyone even remotely as good as Marrow to recruit Ohio, a state Stoops has deemed vital to our efforts.

Anyone that doesn't think losing Marrow is a big deal is an idiot. It is so big in fact that it could ultimately spell the difference between whether Stoops succeeds or fails here.
Again, I know this is a foreign concept to most of you taking this attitude, I don't think some of us are saying this is no big deal, but if it happens then are we going to quit our program? Are you going to cancel your season tickets? What are you possibly going to gain from saying our program is screwed?

We'll survive. We'll find a way.

This post was edited on 1/4 2:57 PM by nssdigitalchumps
Yep, we'll survive and find a way.... a way to be mediocre like we have always been.

There's an old saying that I try to live by that goes something like this: "You get out of it what you put into it". Never have truer words been spoken. If UK ever wants to be anything more than the historical joke we have been, there must come a point where we are willing to seriously put something into it. If that means providing coordinator level pay to keep the best recruiter we've ever had on campus here a few more years, then so be it. Otherwise we are just reverting back to doing things on the cheap and that will lead to us being what we've always been, an SEC cellar dweller.
I agree. I can't see UK landing another guy that can recruit Ohio as well as VM has for us the last 2 years. And Ohio recruits have been a big part of the difference under Stoops. It might happen, but I'm not going to hold my breath and hope for unicorn farts like some here.

If he's gone, this is a massive blow to recruiting. Thinking otherwise is blind optimism personified.
So, if he leaves then the program is done and over, right? That's what you're saying.

Unicorn farts. Some of you fans are truly pathetic some days. lol
Well, can you point me in the direction of top Ohio recruiters looking for a job or looking to jump ship from a current position right now? W/o Marrow, we don't get those x-fers from Nebraska, either. I didn't say it was curtains for the program, just a massive blow to recruiting efforts in Ohio. Is that wrong? By all means, continue to hold out hope that this won't hurt UK. That's your prerogative. I'm worried, and that's my prerogative.
 
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by UKfan215:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
Originally posted by UKfan215:
Losing Marrow at this point would not just be a blow to momentum, it would be an unmitigated DISASTER! Of all the 4 star players that have committed to play for UK or that have transferred to UK since Stoops has been here, 55.5% of them are here largely because of Marrow. Now tell me, how the hell are we going to replace that kind of production? We aren't an Alabama or a Michigan with rich tradition and unlimited football funds that would allow us to go out and hire a proven ace recruiter. And it is incredibly doubtful that we could find anyone even remotely as good as Marrow to recruit Ohio, a state Stoops has deemed vital to our efforts.

Anyone that doesn't think losing Marrow is a big deal is an idiot. It is so big in fact that it could ultimately spell the difference between whether Stoops succeeds or fails here.
Again, I know this is a foreign concept to most of you taking this attitude, I don't think some of us are saying this is no big deal, but if it happens then are we going to quit our program? Are you going to cancel your season tickets? What are you possibly going to gain from saying our program is screwed?

We'll survive. We'll find a way.

This post was edited on 1/4 2:57 PM by nssdigitalchumps
Yep, we'll survive and find a way.... a way to be mediocre like we have always been.

There's an old saying that I try to live by that goes something like this: "You get out of it what you put into it". Never have truer words been spoken. If UK ever wants to be anything more than the historical joke we have been, there must come a point where we are willing to seriously put something into it. If that means providing coordinator level pay to keep the best recruiter we've ever had on campus here a few more years, then so be it. Otherwise we are just reverting back to doing things on the cheap and that will lead to us being what we've always been, an SEC cellar dweller.
I agree. I can't see UK landing another guy that can recruit Ohio as well as VM has for us the last 2 years. And Ohio recruits have been a big part of the difference under Stoops. It might happen, but I'm not going to hold my breath and hope for unicorn farts like some here.

If he's gone, this is a massive blow to recruiting. Thinking otherwise is blind optimism personified.
So, if he leaves then the program is done and over, right? That's what you're saying.

Unicorn farts. Some of you fans are truly pathetic some days. lol
Well, can you point me in the direction of top Ohio recruiters looking for a job or looking to jump ship from a current position right now? W/o Marrow, we don't get those x-fers from Nebraska, either. I didn't say it was curtains for the program, just a massive blow to recruiting efforts in Ohio. Is that wrong? By all means, continue to hold out hope that this won't hurt UK. That's your prerogative. I'm worried, and that's my prerogative.
I see what you're saying, but this is out of our control, so I'm not worrying about it. We'll survive one way or another. I seriously doubt that we'll ever fall back into a Joker-esque football program that some of you all are suggesting. We may not find someone as good as Marrow, but it's possible we'll find someone similar. Someone above mentioned Ron Zook (that's a tough guy to get to UK), so there is hope somewhere.

As for your prerogative, you certainly can certainly think and feel what you want. I don't care about it, but I will care when some of you become condescending a-holes. That's uncalled for garbage. You all are adults and you know that.
 
NSS, losing Marrow might not "end" our program. I'm sure we'll go on playing the sport (or at least going through the motions) like we've always done. But it could very well end our chances of having a successful program. Recruiting is the life blood of college sports. In Marrow we have an ace. It is highly unlikely a school like UK will be able to find an equally capable replacement. Highly unlikely. I don't look forward to going back to the days of Joker and Brooks type recruiting. We are seeing how well Stoops can do with those kind of recruits right now. Is that the direction we want to go in? If it is, then simply "ending" the program might be the best option. I am sick and tired of losing.
 
I hope he stays, I really hope he stays. That being said, Two years ago he was a GA at Nebraska. To say that he is not replaceable is absurd,.There may even be someone better out there, maybe not. It isn't the end Henny Penny.
 
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
As for your prerogative, you certainly can certainly think and feel what you want. I don't care about it, but I will care when some of you become condescending a-holes. That's uncalled for garbage. You all are adults and you know that.
Please accept my apologies if 'unicorn farts' is considered condescending. I'll try to round the edges off my words next time.
 
Originally posted by UKfan215:
NSS, losing Marrow might not "end" our program. I'm sure we'll go on playing the sport (or at least going through the motions) like we've always done. But it could very well end our chances of having a successful program. Recruiting is the life blood of college sports. In Marrow we have an ace. It is highly unlikely a school like UK will be able to find an equally capable replacement. Highly unlikely. I don't look forward to going back to the days of Joker and Brooks type recruiting. We are seeing how well Stoops can do with those kind of recruits right now. Is that the direction we want to go in? If it is, then simply "ending" the program might be the best option. I am sick and tired of losing.
I'm with you and I understand that UKfan. I don't want this program to step backwards. I'm young in terms of football with UK, as I've only been around since Curry (not the greatest way to start as a fan, but what are you going to do) and haven't seen half of what most of you have seen. Regardless, I want to see success here.

Also, I don't think we'll go back to Joker/Brooks recruiting. I think that the fans took a stand against MB's Joker experiment and I'm sure that MB doesn't want to see that again, so money will be thrown at the next best recruiter to get him here. Maintaining a commitment to the football program is probably a priority for MB right now. Should the football program fall down again, we'll probably see MB get the boot. Without football, the other programs in the athletics department aren't properly funded (including basketball -- you know this though).

Anyway, my point is that MB will have a blank check ready to see Marrow retained or Marrow replaced to the very best of UK's ability.

Just my opinion, of course.
 
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
As for your prerogative, you certainly can certainly think and feel what you want. I don't care about it, but I will care when some of you become condescending a-holes. That's uncalled for garbage. You all are adults and you know that.
Please accept my apologies if 'unicorn farts' is considered condescending. I'll try to round the edges off my words next time.
Or just simply grow up and be an adult. That would probably help.
 
Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:
Whatever happens I will say this. It defintely has been a worrisome and busy offseason so far for Coach Stoops.

1. OC leaves to head coaching spot
2. IWorking and interviewing for the OC spot.. Love the hire
3. ST coach leaves for another job. No big deal really, just more work for Coach Stoops to do
4. Your good friend and ace recruiter having an interview for another job
5. The week that #1 RB in the nation and your main recruit is making a decision

It sure has stressed me out
The man is earning his $$.
 
^just the nature of the game, one reason these guys make 3M+/yr. Come back next year about this time, they'll be more drama of sorts for sure.
 
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
As for your prerogative, you certainly can certainly think and feel what you want. I don't care about it, but I will care when some of you become condescending a-holes. That's uncalled for garbage. You all are adults and you know that.
Please accept my apologies if 'unicorn farts' is considered condescending. I'll try to round the edges off my words next time.
Or just simply grow up and be an adult. That would probably help.
Ineed to grow up, yet you are free to refer to posters as "a-holes?"

Duly noted.
 
If Marrow were to leave right now, I think it would also call into question his friendship to Stoops and the supposed loyalty that exists between them. You don't just walk away from your friend a month before signing day and leave him in such a precarious situation.
 
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
As for your prerogative, you certainly can certainly think and feel what you want. I don't care about it, but I will care when some of you become condescending a-holes. That's uncalled for garbage. You all are adults and you know that.
Please accept my apologies if 'unicorn farts' is considered condescending. I'll try to round the edges off my words next time.
Or just simply grow up and be an adult. That would probably help.
Ineed to grow up, yet you are free to refer to posters as "a-holes?"

Duly noted.
Cool. Glad I could help you.
 
He gone. And it sucks. This will be HUGE to the status of our current recruits and potential high caliber recruits in the future . Not to mention with marrow and Harbaugh recruiting Ohio hard... That leaves less opportunity for us to snag high rated guys. Smh.

I hope Harris commits (doubtful but still holding out hope) or this off season will have been a disaster.
 
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
As for your prerogative, you certainly can certainly think and feel what you want. I don't care about it, but I will care when some of you become condescending a-holes. That's uncalled for garbage. You all are adults and you know that.
Please accept my apologies if 'unicorn farts' is considered condescending. I'll try to round the edges off my words next time.
Or just simply grow up and be an adult. That would probably help.
He presented you with the facts, and a well thought out opinion. Sorry you refuse to accept that
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On another site, it was posted that according to an insider, Marrow has told recruits that he is staying.
 
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
As for your prerogative, you certainly can certainly think and feel what you want. I don't care about it, but I will care when some of you become condescending a-holes. That's uncalled for garbage. You all are adults and you know that.
Please accept my apologies if 'unicorn farts' is considered condescending. I'll try to round the edges off my words next time.
Or just simply grow up and be an adult. That would probably help.
Ineed to grow up, yet you are free to refer to posters as "a-holes?"

Duly noted.
Cool. Glad I could help you.
I can't win here. I get it.

Get back to me when VM flips some of our current recruits to UM on signing day. I'm sure you'll have have a fresh rag with which to polish that turd, too.
 
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:
As for your prerogative, you certainly can certainly think and feel what you want. I don't care about it, but I will care when some of you become condescending a-holes. That's uncalled for garbage. You all are adults and you know that.
Please accept my apologies if 'unicorn farts' is considered condescending. I'll try to round the edges off my words next time.
Or just simply grow up and be an adult. That would probably help.
Ineed to grow up, yet you are free to refer to posters as "a-holes?"

Duly noted.
Cool. Glad I could help you.
I can't win here. I get it.
I know.
 
Originally posted by StillBlue83:

4m4 minutes ago
Top Michigan TE recruit says he has talked to Vince Marrow and thinks he will go to Michigan


This post was edited on 1/4 2:17 PM by StillBlue83
Dont' over react to this. It is almost certain that he is not working for Mich at the moment. The reports are that the recruit reached out to Marrow and Marrow talked to him. Marrow has not started talking to Mich's recruits so this report changes nothing. VM is still deciding from the looks of it and we likely won't know one way or the other until Monday or Tuesday. My bet is that he will as UK to match an offer and if UK does he stays. That's just a guess though.
 
Marrow Brown and Naivar are all top flight recruiters, albeit mediocre otherwise. Losing all 3 at once would be the death blow to this rebuilding effort IMO.

That said, its important to note that Marrow was a nobody 2 years ago. If Stoops could find such talent once, maybe he can do it again.
 
Yeah, having carefully read what the TE recruit stated, it sounds like he's recruiting Marrow as hard or harder than Marrow is recruiting him. This report might be much ado about nothing. I sure as hell hope so. Sometimes young guys talk too much when they should be keeping their yap shut. If we are lucky, that is what this Clark kid is doing right now.
This post was edited on 1/4 4:40 PM by UKfan215
 
Originally posted by TBCat:
Originally posted by StillBlue83:

4m4 minutes ago
Top Michigan TE recruit says he has talked to Vince Marrow and thinks he will go to Michigan

This post was edited on 1/4 2:17 PM by StillBlue83
Dont' over react to this. It is almost certain that he is not working for Mich at the moment. The reports are that the recruit reached out to Marrow and Marrow talked to him. Marrow has not started talking to Mich's recruits so this report changes nothing. VM is still deciding from the looks of it and we likely won't know one way or the other until Monday or Tuesday. My bet is that he will as UK to match an offer and if UK does he stays. That's just a guess though.
Where are you getting these reports that he reached out to Marrow? The Mich sites I saw are reporting that Marrow was the one that contacted Clark. I hope Marrow stays, but I don't understand why he would be reaching out to Mich recruits. If Marrow didn't make the contact then It looks like either Clark is lying or the reporters have misunderstood who made the contact.



Turns out Marrow might be closer to a decision than expected as 2015 Avon (Conn.) Old Farms five-star tight end Chris Clark -- a major target for Michigan heading toward signing day -- informed Scout of Marrow's impromptu contact Sunday.
"I talked to him this morning and to be honest I don't even know why cause he hasn't officially taken the job yet," Clark said. "I guess just in terms of (he mentioned) he's seen my game and thinks he could give the right coaching to develop me into a first round caliber type tight end.


Article
 
Go check out Justin Rowland's twitter and replies to it. Interesting stuff. He says that Clark is a drama queen and that Clark reached out to Marrow not the other way around
 
Originally posted by SaguaroCat:
OT.

Apparently Kentucky has recruited so many four star players, we have to measure Marrow's share of them to the third significant digit.
Hopefully the ONE four star from 12 will lead us to the promised land, IF he improves and even starts. But, 0.5% of the seven from Ohio is probably going to contribute more than the ONE four star we got in the 10 and 11 classes, although there is still some hope for Faulkner. The 09 class had TWO four stars that contributed, but both were JCs only here two years. and I didn't see a whole lot from our ONE in the 08 class, Boyd had one good game IIRC. The 07 class, coming after our only break even SEC season year this century, (but mitch told Brooks, no, we can't even replace the folding chairs in the "recruiting room") had ZERO four stars, certainly 0.5% of the seven will have to be better than ZERO. But maybe they made up for it by signing 19 two stars, LOL, but that was topped by the 05 class also with zero four stars but with 22 three stars, with only four three stars, two from Kentucky and two JCs. The TWO four stars in 06, both from Kentucky, certainly had a big influence on UK's defense, and Peters is still playing in the NFL.

UK's main problem this century has been TALENT, not coaching, in fact Brooks did an amazing job with his talent, mostly overlooked and bypassed players. Joker? No, things fell apart pretty fast.

So yes, the seven that Stoops has brought in IS a VERY big deal, and heads should roll if we lose him because of money, JMO, but what the hell is Stoops going to do with all that money, and if I were his financial advisor I would tell him his best chances for making even more millions in the future would be to throw a couple hundred thousand his buddies way.

NOT that their minds seem to work that way, although Brooks and Harbaugh seem to have seen the wisdom in it.

NOT that it should be necessary at all, our AD should have learned something from the past couple of years..
 
Originally posted by vhcat70:
Originally posted by bigbluegrog:

It won't come down to money though the MB haters will insist it did and we weren't willing to pay. I look forward to hearing from Stoops when this drama concludes. Stoops could sit there and tell everyone that money wasn't the deciding factor but many won't believe him.
You don't need to hate MB to acknowledge he put UK FB in a deep hole.
How so?
Are you claiming that UK wasn't in a "deep hole" before MB arrived?
Was UK in a "deep hole" under Rich Brooks?
Should he have kept Guy Morriss? If so, what has Morriss done since he left UK that would indicate that he would have been the answer?

I challenge you to name an AD who has done more for UK football in the last 50 years?
If making one bad hire is your basis. Please name me one AD who has made multiple hires that hasn't made a bad one?
 
Originally posted by jauk11:
Originally posted by ThePoint_Is:
Originally posted by Kooky Kats:
This is BAD news indeed.
OC was a stretch??
He must have wanted a big name, like Kiffin.
Speaking for myself, I'd prefer a guy who calls his own plays and an ace recruiter... This WVU guy may be good, but who knows? You don't.
 
Originally posted by UKfan215:
NSS, losing Marrow might not "end" our program. I'm sure we'll go on playing the sport (or at least going through the motions) like we've always done. But it could very well end our chances of having a successful program. Recruiting is the life blood of college sports. In Marrow we have an ace. It is highly unlikely a school like UK will be able to find an equally capable replacement. Highly unlikely. I don't look forward to going back to the days of Joker and Brooks type recruiting. We are seeing how well Stoops can do with those kind of recruits right now. Is that the direction we want to go in? If it is, then simply "ending" the program might be the best option. I am sick and tired of losing.
 
Originally posted by ManRoar:
He gone. And it sucks. This will be HUGE to the status of our current recruits and potential high caliber recruits in the future . Not to mention with marrow and Harbaugh recruiting Ohio hard... That leaves less opportunity for us to snag high rated guys. Smh.

I hope Harris commits (doubtful but still holding out hope) or this off season will have been a disaster.
I bet you're so disapointed right now
 
Originally posted by GomezH2O:

Originally posted by ManRoar:
He gone. And it sucks. This will be HUGE to the status of our current recruits and potential high caliber recruits in the future . Not to mention with marrow and Harbaugh recruiting Ohio hard... That leaves less opportunity for us to snag high rated guys. Smh.

I hope Harris commits (doubtful but still holding out hope) or this off season will have been a disaster.
I bet you're so disapointed right now
One of the biggest UK football hater posers on this board.
 
Originally posted by irishcat1965:
It appears he is gone. It is a devastating blow if true.
It appears you had/have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Originally posted by FusterCluck:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by FusterCluck:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by FusterCluck:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

As for your prerogative, you certainly can certainly think and feel what you want. I don't care about it, but I will care when some of you become condescending a-holes. That's uncalled for garbage. You all are adults and you know that.
Please accept my apologies if 'unicorn farts' is considered condescending. I'll try to round the edges off my words next time.
Or just simply grow up and be an adult. That would probably help.
Ineed to grow up, yet you are free to refer to posters as "a-holes?"

Duly noted.
Cool. Glad I could help you.
I can't win here. I get it.

Get back to me when VM flips some of our current recruits to UM on signing day. I'm sure you'll have have a fresh rag with which to polish that turd, too.
Maybe posts like this are the reason you "can't win here". Apparently you don't get it. Anyway, guess no need for anyone to get back to you since he isn't leaving. Keep posting though, maybe you'll eventually "win".
 
Originally posted by ManRoar:
He gone. And it sucks. This will be HUGE to the status of our current recruits and potential high caliber recruits in the future . Not to mention with marrow and Harbaugh recruiting Ohio hard... That leaves less opportunity for us to snag high rated guys. Smh.

I hope Harris commits (doubtful but still holding out hope) or this off season will have been a disaster.
LOL, good call, Troll. I bet you're pi$$ed that he's staying. Now please tell us Harris is going to Bama, so we can all feel

confident he picks UK Friday.
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Originally posted by Cats78:
Originally posted by FusterCluck:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by FusterCluck:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by FusterCluck:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

As for your prerogative, you certainly can certainly think and feel what you want. I don't care about it, but I will care when some of you become condescending a-holes. That's uncalled for garbage. You all are adults and you know that.
Please accept my apologies if 'unicorn farts' is considered condescending. I'll try to round the edges off my words next time.
Or just simply grow up and be an adult. That would probably help.
Ineed to grow up, yet you are free to refer to posters as "a-holes?"

Duly noted.
Cool. Glad I could help you.
I can't win here. I get it.

Get back to me when VM flips some of our current recruits to UM on signing day. I'm sure you'll have have a fresh rag with which to polish that turd, too.
Maybe posts like this are the reason you "can't win here". Apparently you don't get it. Anyway, guess no need for anyone to get back to you since he isn't leaving. Keep posting though, maybe you'll eventually "win".
Jeez, dude. I think you're the one that doesn't get it. You're looking for someone to bash and your lack of reading comprehension skills is failing you in your moment of zeal. The issue being discussed was how we would fare replacing Marrow and how his presence at UM (and recruiting the same territory in Ohio against us) would hurt UK IF IF IF he left. I never said he was "gone." I only disputed his perceived lack of overall value to this program and the idea that he and his recruiting prowess in Ohio could easily be replaced here... a sentiment that was vehemently championed by NSS. And I stand by that statement. IF he'd left for UM and started poaching recruits, you same yokels looking to beat your chests tonight would be nowhere to be found on national signing day.

Find another tree to climb, friend. Some of you are incapable of having a simple discussion.

This post was edited on 1/4 11:45 PM by FusterCluck
 
Clearly one Mitchell Q. Barnhart swooped in as the lead UK administrator, and with both his charismatic presence and steely resolve made Marrow realize he couldn't leave Kentucky, in addition to freely and yet wisely spending athletic department funds to ensure his fair compensation.

I mean, it was going to be all his fault if Marrow left, right? I'd like to be the first to thank Mitch for singlehandedly keeping the best recruiter we've seen here in some time. A raise and extension really is in order.
 
Originally posted by Samwise Ganjee:
Here is the litmus test for UK, its administrators, and in particular the AD Mitch Barnhart:

Pay the man what he's worth to a real football program and keep him, thereby proving you are sincere in building a winner here

OR

Tell him to go pound sand and admit everything said and done up to now is just a footnote to 60 years and more of failure

I can't tell anyone else on here what to do, but the outcome of this situation will determine whether I buy season tickets next year and start attending games again...

...or not
Lets be honest, it was only a litmus test if Marrow went to Michigan. It's not like you're gonna give Barnhart any credit for this.
 
Originally posted by FusterCluck:
Originally posted by Cats78:
Originally posted by FusterCluck:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by FusterCluck:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by FusterCluck:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

As for your prerogative, you certainly can certainly think and feel what you want. I don't care about it, but I will care when some of you become condescending a-holes. That's uncalled for garbage. You all are adults and you know that.
Please accept my apologies if 'unicorn farts' is considered condescending. I'll try to round the edges off my words next time.
Or just simply grow up and be an adult. That would probably help.
Ineed to grow up, yet you are free to refer to posters as "a-holes?"

Duly noted.
Cool. Glad I could help you.
I can't win here. I get it.

Get back to me when VM flips some of our current recruits to UM on signing day. I'm sure you'll have have a fresh rag with which to polish that turd, too.
Maybe posts like this are the reason you "can't win here". Apparently you don't get it. Anyway, guess no need for anyone to get back to you since he isn't leaving. Keep posting though, maybe you'll eventually "win".
Jeez, dude. I think you're the one that doesn't get it. You're looking for someone to bash and your lack of reading comprehension skills is failing you in your moment of zeal. The issue being discussed was how we would fare replacing Marrow and how his presence at UM (and recruiting the same territory in Ohio against us) would hurt UK IF IF IF he left. I never said he was "gone." I only disputed his perceived lack of overall value to this program and the idea that he and his recruiting prowess in Ohio could easily be replaced here... a sentiment that was vehemently championed by NSS. And I stand by that statement. IF he'd left for UM and started poaching recruits, you same yokels looking to beat your chests tonight would be nowhere to be found on national signing day.

Find another tree to climb, friend. Some of you are incapable of having a simple discussion.

This post was edited on 1/4 11:45 PM by FusterCluck
The post of yours I responded to says nothing about "ifs". It's about you acting like a fool. It's very telling that you're criticizing folks for being happy that Marrow is staying. Are you happy about it? Doesn't seem like it. If you're even a UK fan, please go find another team. Doubt you're a fan though. Just a troll looking for entertainment. Sad, really.
 
Originally posted by ~Keyser Soze~:

Originally posted by Samwise Ganjee:
Here is the litmus test for UK, its administrators, and in particular the AD Mitch Barnhart:

Pay the man what he's worth to a real football program and keep him, thereby proving you are sincere in building a winner here

OR

Tell him to go pound sand and admit everything said and done up to now is just a footnote to 60 years and more of failure

I can't tell anyone else on here what to do, but the outcome of this situation will determine whether I buy season tickets next year and start attending games again...

...or not
Lets be honest, it was only a litmus test if Marrow went to Michigan. It's not like you're gonna give Barnhart any credit for this.
Ain't it the truth!

On the good side I guess that Samwise will be digging into his pocket for some season tickets.
 
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