Steve Jones; Marrow Would Like to Meet w/ UK Administration

[southindycat]

It seems more likely than not that only Marrow and/or his rep (if any) is responsible for the news of his desire to meet with UK decision makers. I am not certain that leak was a well considered move, though ultimately whatever is done for him will be known. Seems possible someone at UK let it out, but less likely, unless it is all an orchestrated play for press attention already.

 

[BengalWACO]

Originally posted by Samwise Ganjee:
Here is the litmus test for UK, its administrators, and in particular the AD Mitch Barnhart:

Pay the man what he's worth to a real football program and keep him, thereby proving you are sincere in building a winner here

OR

Tell him to go pound sand and admit everything said and done up to now is just a footnote to 60 years and more of failure

I can't tell anyone else on here what to do, but the outcome of this situation will determine whether I buy season tickets next year and start attending games again...

...or not

Sir, you put this perfect. I couldn't have said it any better. WOW.

 

[KapitalCat]

Originally posted by BengalWACO:

Originally posted by Samwise Ganjee:
Here is the litmus test for UK, its administrators, and in particular the AD Mitch Barnhart:

Pay the man what he's worth to a real football program and keep him, thereby proving you are sincere in building a winner here

OR

Tell him to go pound sand and admit everything said and done up to now is just a footnote to 60 years and more of failure

I can't tell anyone else on here what to do, but the outcome of this situation will determine whether I buy season tickets next year and start attending games again...

...or not

Sir, you put this perfect. I couldn't have said it any better. WOW.

There is one other possibility. UK exceeds the UM offer and he still goes. Then what? That's possible too.

 

[Kooky Kats]

Originally posted by Calf:

Originally posted by Kooky Kats:
I think Marrow is gone.

I think you are exhibiting symptoms of chicken little syndrome.

I think... Therefore, I am.

Homerism abounds.

 

[Kooky Kats]

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:

Originally posted by KapitalCat:


There is one other possibility. UK exceeds the UM offer and he still goes. Then what? That's possible too.

That is correct... But if that turns out to be the case, others would never consider that Michigan just might of had more to offer in the long run for Marrow and will bash Barnhart unmercifully....

... Or the Mitchites will concoct a scenario where UK offered him $2M and a zippo to stay, and he still boogied.

 

[KapitalCat]

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:

Originally posted by KapitalCat:


There is one other possibility. UK exceeds the UM offer and he still goes. Then what? That's possible too.

That is correct... But if that turns out to be the case, others would never consider that Michigan just might of had more to offer in the long run for Marrow and will bash Barnhart unmercifully....

I think we will know the truth if he leaves. I may come down to what John Calipari said when left Memphis. He had a great job, he was beloved and he was winning. But in the end he said...It's Kentucky. If Marrow leaves it's becuase it's Michigan.

 

[vhcat70]

I don't see why UK doesn't have the money. They bribed the Legislature with a UK Science Bldg, what $80M, to allow for bonding for CWS improvements. Net, there's plenty there imo.

Don't see why the top recruiter can't make more than the coordinators. They are all important, just different.

If he leaves, our odds at Harris & other top 2015 recruits drop. Big hit.

This post was edited on 1/4 11:33 AM by vhcat70

 

[GridCats]

Originally posted by BengalWACO:

Originally posted by Samwise Ganjee:
Here is the litmus test for UK, its administrators, and in particular the AD Mitch Barnhart:

Pay the man what he's worth to a real football program and keep him, thereby proving you are sincere in building a winner here

OR

Tell him to go pound sand and admit everything said and done up to now is just a footnote to 60 years and more of failure

I can't tell anyone else on here what to do, but the outcome of this situation will determine whether I buy season tickets next year and start attending games again...

...or not

Sir, you put this perfect. I couldn't have said it any better. WOW.

Well I didn't stop going, but I can clearly see why many did. However, if you haven't come back by now, seems you're still making excuses.

And yes, pay the Coaches well and if they don't produce, you have shown the money is there to replace them.
This post was edited on 1/4 11:03 AM by GridCats

 

[Smashcat]

Justin's Sunday morning tweet:


Justin Rowland @RowlandRIVALS Follow



As we reported at CI yesterday expect @vincemarrow[/B]'s decision by Wednesday at latest. Was to meet with UM and UK this weekend.

9:48 AM - 4 Jan 2015

 

[mrschwump]

^seems the announcement date keeps getting pushed back.

 

[That MGH Guy]

Originally posted by mrschwump:

^seems the announcement date keeps getting pushed back.

And maybe it's me seeing what I want to see, but the unofficial date continuing to move backwards would say to me that there's a good chance he's trying to iron out details on a better deal from UK.

 

[mrschwump]

^hope you're right. Of course, we really don't know when all these meetings took place or will take place. Ky media sometimes screws up facts.

 

[DuffyTuffy85]

Some of the Michigan "insiders" are back tracking what they have said in Marrow is gone and are even saying he is staying now. If so big news for the BBN.

 

[WildCard]

FWIW, here is a relatively up to date (i.e., beginning of 2014 season) accounting of assistant coaches salaries. I thought I read recently that Bud Foster got yet another salary bump pushing him to about $1.5M/yr. Of course he is the "de facto" CIW when Beamer finally hangs it up.

The list does not specify positions and responsibilities. Naturally most of the high pay guys are OCs or DCs. Without doing much research the first name I see on the list who is best known as a "Recruiting Coordinator" (RC) is Rodney Garner at AU ($600K/yr) who is titled "Associate HC and RC"; also works with D-line. May be others but most the names resonate as OCs or DCs.

I just don't think the "job" of RC gets anywhere near the bucks of the OC and DC jobs at most places. Given the situation and football history of UK, they may well need to buck the trend. That is to say you should not have to pay too much for a RC at TX or tOSU. However, as noted several times in this thread, the most exceptional aspect of Stoop's 2 years has been the recruiting.

Most top recruiters "get it done" based on connections AND individual personalities. Marrow does this. The actual "job" of RC is mainly off field "administrative" duties. Sure the staff has to make final judgements and initiate/close the deal but most schools are now using staff positions for much of the recruiting administration and leg work. I guess what I am saying is UK may be in a position where they have to "pay more than market" for a position coach who is also a great one on one recruiter. JMO.

Peace

 

[SaguaroCat]

Marrow has started following Chris Clark, a tight end target for Michigan, on twitter today.

Still not following ukclass2016 that I can see.

 

[mrschwump]

^can't be a good sign, especially if he's not following UK's '16s.

 

[Poetax]

Originally posted by Robcatt24:

Extortion?

Really?

 

[brian.mikeson]

Originally posted by SaguaroCat:
Marrow has started following Chris Clark, a tight end target for Michigan, on twitter today.

Still not following ukclass2016 that I can see.

Not making a judgment here, but just seems funny that TWITTER today is the newest iteration of TRACKING FLIGHTS.

 

[Smashcat]

Originally posted by SaguaroCat:
Marrow has started following Chris Clark, a tight end target for Michigan, on twitter today.

Still not following ukclass2016 that I can see.

Michigan fans are tickled with that. If he is indeed already working for Michigan I hope he announces that ASAP.

 

[bigbluegrog]

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:

Originally posted by KapitalCat:


There is one other possibility. UK exceeds the UM offer and he still goes. Then what? That's possible too.

That is correct... But if that turns out to be the case, others would never consider that Michigan just might of had more to offer in the long run for Marrow and will bash Barnhart unmercifully....

IMO, if he really wants to stay, UK will match or improve any offer. It won't come down to money though the MB haters will insist it did and we weren't willing to pay. I look forward to hearing from Stoops when this drama concludes. Stoops could sit there and tell everyone that money wasn't the deciding factor but many won't believe him.

 

[vhcat70]

Originally posted by bigbluegrog:

It won't come down to money though the MB haters will insist it did and we weren't willing to pay. I look forward to hearing from Stoops when this drama concludes. Stoops could sit there and tell everyone that money wasn't the deciding factor but many won't believe him.

You don't need to hate MB to acknowledge he put UK FB in a deep hole.

I'll believe Stoops. He's given me no reason not to believe him.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Originally posted by WildCard:
FWIW, here is a relatively up to date (i.e., beginning of 2014 season) accounting of assistant coaches salaries. I thought I read recently that Bud Foster got yet another salary bump pushing him to about $1.5M/yr. Of course he is the "de facto" CIW when Beamer finally hangs it up.

The list does not specify positions and responsibilities. Naturally most of the high pay guys are OCs or DCs. Without doing much research the first name I see on the list who is best known as a "Recruiting Coordinator" (RC) is Rodney Garner at AU ($600K/yr) who is titled "Associate HC and RC"; also works with D-line. May be others but most the names resonate as OCs or DCs.

I just don't think the "job" of RC gets anywhere near the bucks of the OC and DC jobs at most places. Given the situation and football history of UK, they may well need to buck the trend. That is to say you should not have to pay too much for a RC at TX or tOSU. However, as noted several times in this thread, the most exceptional aspect of Stoop's 2 years has been the recruiting.

Most top recruiters "get it done" based on connections AND individual personalities. Marrow does this. The actual "job" of RC is mainly off field "administrative" duties. Sure the staff has to make final judgements and initiate/close the deal but most schools are now using staff positions for much of the recruiting administration and leg work. I guess what I am saying is UK may be in a position where they have to "pay more than market" for a position coach who is also a great one on one recruiter. JMO.

Peace

When Garner left UGA he was making about 500k, his replacement with title of "recruiting coordinator" Bryan McClendon is making about 100k less unless the raise boosted him there, I think. UGA has been notoriously tight with purse strings tied to coaches salaries. But something happened this week, I think our AD had a meeting with the president and was told if he enjoyed his position as AD at UGA that coaches better receive a raise.

 

[StillBlue83]

4m4 minutes ago
Top Michigan TE recruit says he has talked to Vince Marrow and thinks he will go to Michigan



This post was edited on 1/4 2:17 PM by StillBlue83

Article

 

[bigbluegrog]

Originally posted by vhcat70:

Originally posted by bigbluegrog:

It won't come down to money though the MB haters will insist it did and we weren't willing to pay. I look forward to hearing from Stoops when this drama concludes. Stoops could sit there and tell everyone that money wasn't the deciding factor but many won't believe him.

You don't need to hate MB to acknowledge he put UK FB in a deep hole.

I'll believe Stoops. He's given me no reason not to believe him.

MB is only a fraction of the reason UK football is in a deep hole...but I think the hole is less deep than it was yesterday. I will believe Stoops as well.

 

[UKfan215]

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:

Originally posted by StillBlue83:


4m4 minutes ago

Top Michigan TE recruit says he has talked to Vince Marrow and thinks he will go to Michigan


This post was edited on 1/4 2:17 PM by StillBlue83

HE GONE!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:

Originally posted by StillBlue83:


4m4 minutes ago

Top Michigan TE recruit says he has talked to Vince Marrow and thinks he will go to Michigan


This post was edited on 1/4 2:17 PM by StillBlue83

HE GONE!!!!!!!!!

If he is, then we are screwed.

 

[nssdigitalchumps]

Originally posted by UKfan215:

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:

Originally posted by StillBlue83:


4m4 minutes ago

Top Michigan TE recruit says he has talked to Vince Marrow and thinks he will go to Michigan

This post was edited on 1/4 2:17 PM by StillBlue83

HE GONE!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:

Originally posted by StillBlue83:


4m4 minutes ago

Top Michigan TE recruit says he has talked to Vince Marrow and thinks he will go to Michigan

This post was edited on 1/4 2:17 PM by StillBlue83

HE GONE!!!!!!!!!

If he is, then we are screwed.

I had no idea he is the only good recruiter out there. Crap.

 

[ThePoint_Is]

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by UKfan215:

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:

Originally posted by StillBlue83:



4m4 minutes ago


Top Michigan TE recruit says he has talked to Vince Marrow and thinks he will go to Michigan

This post was edited on 1/4 2:17 PM by StillBlue83

HE GONE!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:

Originally posted by StillBlue83:



4m4 minutes ago


Top Michigan TE recruit says he has talked to Vince Marrow and thinks he will go to Michigan

This post was edited on 1/4 2:17 PM by StillBlue83

HE GONE!!!!!!!!!

If he is, then we are screwed.

I had no idea he is the only good recruiter out there. Crap.

I agree. Looks like he is gone. We will be fine. I trust Stoops will find another great recruiter like he did with Marrow. Stoops is well connected in Ohio.

 

[Kooky Kats]

This is BAD news indeed.

Stoops missed horribly on his last replacement (Naviar). OC selection was a stretch, by all accounts- now Marrow. This is a momentum killer.

If Harris goes to Bama, wheels will need alignment for sure.

Bummerama.

 

[ThePoint_Is]

Originally posted by Kooky Kats:
This is BAD news indeed.

Stoops missed horribly on his last replacement (Naviar). OC selection was a stretch, by all accounts- now Marrow. This is a momentum killer.

If Harris goes to Bama, wheels will need alignment for sure.

Bummerama.

OC was a stretch??

 

[nssdigitalchumps]

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:
If you guys believe that losing Coach Marrow is not a concern and blow to momentum, you are trying to convince your self otherwise

Or we could be avoiding overreacting and saying 'OH, NO! Our program will be in shambles now! The sky is falling! etc.'.

That could be what we're doing.

It's okay to be positive in the face of adversity. Makes you less stressed about life.

 

[UKfan215]

Losing Marrow at this point would not just be a blow to momentum, it would be an unmitigated DISASTER! Of all the 4 star players that have committed to play for UK or that have transferred to UK since Stoops has been here, 55.5% of them are here largely because of Marrow. Now tell me, how the hell are we going to replace that kind of production? We aren't an Alabama or a Michigan with rich tradition and unlimited football funds that would allow us to go out and hire a proven ace recruiter. And it is incredibly doubtful that we could find anyone even remotely as good as Marrow to recruit Ohio, a state Stoops has deemed vital to our efforts.

Anyone that doesn't think losing Marrow is a big deal is an idiot. It is so big in fact that it could ultimately spell the difference between whether Stoops succeeds or fails here.

 

[nssdigitalchumps]

Originally posted by UKfan215:
Losing Marrow at this point would not just be a blow to momentum, it would be an unmitigated DISASTER! Of all the 4 star players that have committed to play for UK or that have transferred to UK since Stoops has been here, 55.5% of them are here largely because of Marrow. Now tell me, how the hell are we going to replace that kind of production? We aren't an Alabama or a Michigan with rich tradition and unlimited football funds that would allow us to go out and hire a proven ace recruiter. And it is incredibly doubtful that we could find anyone even remotely as good as Marrow to recruit Ohio, a state Stoops has deemed vital to our efforts.

Anyone that doesn't think losing Marrow is a big deal is an idiot. It is so big in fact that it could ultimately spell the difference between whether Stoops succeeds or fails here.

Again, I know this is a foreign concept to most of you taking this attitude, I don't think some of us are saying this is no big deal, but if it happens then it happens. There is nothing we (the fans) can do about it. With that said, are you going to quit on our program? Are you going to cancel your season tickets? What are you possibly going to gain from saying our program is screwed?

We'll survive. We'll find a way.

Sounds like MB counter-offered Michigan's money, but the temptation of a big program might be too much. It's going to happen sometimes. It sucks, but it's not the end.

This post was edited on 1/4 2:57 PM by nssdigitalchumps

This post was edited on 1/4 3:02 PM by nssdigitalchumps

 

[Kooky Kats]

Originally posted by UKfan215:
Losing Marrow at this point would not just be a blow to momentum, it would be an unmitigated DISASTER! Of all the 4 star players that have committed to play for UK or that have transferred to UK since Stoops has been here, 55.5% of them are here largely because of Marrow. Now tell me, how the hell are we going to replace that kind of production? We aren't an Alabama or a Michigan with rich tradition and unlimited football funds that would allow us to go out and hire a proven ace recruiter. And it is incredibly doubtful that we could find anyone even remotely as good as Marrow to recruit Ohio, a state Stoops has deemed vital to our efforts.

Anyone that doesn't think losing Marrow is a big deal is an idiot. It is so big in fact that it could ultimately spell the difference between whether Stoops succeeds or fails here.

This.

The only difference I have seen between this staff and Jokers was recruiting. Marrow owned that department.

everything else has been status quo.

 

[UKfan215]

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by UKfan215:
Losing Marrow at this point would not just be a blow to momentum, it would be an unmitigated DISASTER! Of all the 4 star players that have committed to play for UK or that have transferred to UK since Stoops has been here, 55.5% of them are here largely because of Marrow. Now tell me, how the hell are we going to replace that kind of production? We aren't an Alabama or a Michigan with rich tradition and unlimited football funds that would allow us to go out and hire a proven ace recruiter. And it is incredibly doubtful that we could find anyone even remotely as good as Marrow to recruit Ohio, a state Stoops has deemed vital to our efforts.

Anyone that doesn't think losing Marrow is a big deal is an idiot. It is so big in fact that it could ultimately spell the difference between whether Stoops succeeds or fails here.

Again, I know this is a foreign concept to most of you taking this attitude, I don't think some of us are saying this is no big deal, but if it happens then are we going to quit our program? Are you going to cancel your season tickets? What are you possibly going to gain from saying our program is screwed?

We'll survive. We'll find a way.

This post was edited on 1/4 2:57 PM by nssdigitalchumps

Yep, we'll survive and find a way.... a way to be mediocre like we have always been.

There's an old saying that I try to live by that goes something like this: "You get out of it what you put into it". Never have truer words been spoken. If UK ever wants to be anything more than the historical joke we have been, there must come a point where we are willing to seriously put something into it. If that means providing coordinator level pay to keep the best recruiter we've ever had on campus here a few more years, then so be it. Otherwise we are just reverting back to doing things on the cheap and that will lead to us being what we've always been, an SEC cellar dweller.

 

[jauk11]

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by UKfan215:

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:

Originally posted by StillBlue83:



4m4 minutes ago


Top Michigan TE recruit says he has talked to Vince Marrow and thinks he will go to Michigan

This post was edited on 1/4 2:17 PM by StillBlue83

HE GONE!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by i_bleed_blue_01:

Originally posted by StillBlue83:



4m4 minutes ago


Top Michigan TE recruit says he has talked to Vince Marrow and thinks he will go to Michigan

This post was edited on 1/4 2:17 PM by StillBlue83

HE GONE!!!!!!!!!

If he is, then we are screwed.

I had no idea he is the only good recruiter out there. Crap.

Right, hell, for years a LOT of people thought that Joker was a very good recruitter, even Bama and Florida.

 

[nssdigitalchumps]

Originally posted by UKfan215:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by UKfan215:
Losing Marrow at this point would not just be a blow to momentum, it would be an unmitigated DISASTER! Of all the 4 star players that have committed to play for UK or that have transferred to UK since Stoops has been here, 55.5% of them are here largely because of Marrow. Now tell me, how the hell are we going to replace that kind of production? We aren't an Alabama or a Michigan with rich tradition and unlimited football funds that would allow us to go out and hire a proven ace recruiter. And it is incredibly doubtful that we could find anyone even remotely as good as Marrow to recruit Ohio, a state Stoops has deemed vital to our efforts.

Anyone that doesn't think losing Marrow is a big deal is an idiot. It is so big in fact that it could ultimately spell the difference between whether Stoops succeeds or fails here.

Again, I know this is a foreign concept to most of you taking this attitude, I don't think some of us are saying this is no big deal, but if it happens then are we going to quit our program? Are you going to cancel your season tickets? What are you possibly going to gain from saying our program is screwed?

We'll survive. We'll find a way.

This post was edited on 1/4 2:57 PM by nssdigitalchumps

Yep, we'll survive and find a way.... a way to be mediocre like we have always been.

There's an old saying that I try to live by that goes something like this: "You get out of it what you put into it". Never have truer words been spoken. If UK ever wants to be anything more than the historical joke we have been, there must come a point where we are willing to seriously put something into it. If that means providing coordinator level pay to keep the best recruiter we've ever had on campus here a few more years, then so be it. Otherwise we are just reverting back to doing things on the cheap and that will lead to us being what we've always been, an SEC cellar dweller.

- Renovated a stadium.
- Building a proper training complex.
- One of the highest paid coaches in the SEC right now.

What haven't we done to be serious with Stoops and his crew? It sounds like we're putting in a lot to make this work and I wouldn't doubt that MB is putting up some numbers to keep Marrow. I'm sure if Marrow goes to Michigan then we'll (UK) do our best to find someone with similar talents. This program is on the upswing. If Marrow chooses to go to Michigan it won't be for a lack of trying on UK's part.

What more do you want? lol

This post was edited on 1/4 3:13 PM by nssdigitalchumps

 

[SaguaroCat]

OT.

Apparently Kentucky has recruited so many four star players, we have to measure Marrow's share of them to the third significant digit.

 

[FusterCluck]

Originally posted by UKfan215:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by UKfan215:
Losing Marrow at this point would not just be a blow to momentum, it would be an unmitigated DISASTER! Of all the 4 star players that have committed to play for UK or that have transferred to UK since Stoops has been here, 55.5% of them are here largely because of Marrow. Now tell me, how the hell are we going to replace that kind of production? We aren't an Alabama or a Michigan with rich tradition and unlimited football funds that would allow us to go out and hire a proven ace recruiter. And it is incredibly doubtful that we could find anyone even remotely as good as Marrow to recruit Ohio, a state Stoops has deemed vital to our efforts.

Anyone that doesn't think losing Marrow is a big deal is an idiot. It is so big in fact that it could ultimately spell the difference between whether Stoops succeeds or fails here.

Again, I know this is a foreign concept to most of you taking this attitude, I don't think some of us are saying this is no big deal, but if it happens then are we going to quit our program? Are you going to cancel your season tickets? What are you possibly going to gain from saying our program is screwed?

We'll survive. We'll find a way.

This post was edited on 1/4 2:57 PM by nssdigitalchumps

Yep, we'll survive and find a way.... a way to be mediocre like we have always been.

There's an old saying that I try to live by that goes something like this: "You get out of it what you put into it". Never have truer words been spoken. If UK ever wants to be anything more than the historical joke we have been, there must come a point where we are willing to seriously put something into it. If that means providing coordinator level pay to keep the best recruiter we've ever had on campus here a few more years, then so be it. Otherwise we are just reverting back to doing things on the cheap and that will lead to us being what we've always been, an SEC cellar dweller.

I agree. I can't see UK landing another guy that can recruit Ohio as well as VM has for us the last 2 years. And Ohio recruits have been a big part of the difference under Stoops. It might happen, but I'm not going to hold my breath and hope for unicorn farts like some here.

If he's gone, this is a massive blow to recruiting. Thinking otherwise is blind optimism personified.

 

[jauk11]

Originally posted by ThePoint_Is:

Originally posted by Kooky Kats:
This is BAD news indeed.

Stoops missed horribly on his last replacement (Naviar). OC selection was a stretch, by all accounts- now Marrow. This is a momentum killer.

If Harris goes to Bama, wheels will need alignment for sure.

Bummerama.

OC was a stretch??

He must have wanted a big name, like Kiffin.

 

[nssdigitalchumps]

Originally posted by FusterCluck:

Originally posted by UKfan215:

Originally posted by nssdigitalchumps:

Originally posted by UKfan215:
Losing Marrow at this point would not just be a blow to momentum, it would be an unmitigated DISASTER! Of all the 4 star players that have committed to play for UK or that have transferred to UK since Stoops has been here, 55.5% of them are here largely because of Marrow. Now tell me, how the hell are we going to replace that kind of production? We aren't an Alabama or a Michigan with rich tradition and unlimited football funds that would allow us to go out and hire a proven ace recruiter. And it is incredibly doubtful that we could find anyone even remotely as good as Marrow to recruit Ohio, a state Stoops has deemed vital to our efforts.

Anyone that doesn't think losing Marrow is a big deal is an idiot. It is so big in fact that it could ultimately spell the difference between whether Stoops succeeds or fails here.

Again, I know this is a foreign concept to most of you taking this attitude, I don't think some of us are saying this is no big deal, but if it happens then are we going to quit our program? Are you going to cancel your season tickets? What are you possibly going to gain from saying our program is screwed?

We'll survive. We'll find a way.

This post was edited on 1/4 2:57 PM by nssdigitalchumps

Yep, we'll survive and find a way.... a way to be mediocre like we have always been.

There's an old saying that I try to live by that goes something like this: "You get out of it what you put into it". Never have truer words been spoken. If UK ever wants to be anything more than the historical joke we have been, there must come a point where we are willing to seriously put something into it. If that means providing coordinator level pay to keep the best recruiter we've ever had on campus here a few more years, then so be it. Otherwise we are just reverting back to doing things on the cheap and that will lead to us being what we've always been, an SEC cellar dweller.

I agree. I can't see UK landing another guy that can recruit Ohio as well as VM has for us the last 2 years. And Ohio recruits have been a big part of the difference under Stoops. It might happen, but I'm not going to hold my breath and hope for unicorn farts like some here.

If he's gone, this is a massive blow to recruiting. Thinking otherwise is blind optimism personified.

So, if he leaves then the program is done and over, right? That's what you're saying.

Unicorn farts? Some of you fans are truly pathetic some days. lol

This post was edited on 1/4 3:18 PM by nssdigitalchumps