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State of Kentucky has blocked access to Pornhub.

OH NO.,,,

At this point in time there are very few reasons not to have a vpn up and running, especially if you are visiting sites like those.
 
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Good. Some losers will still Pirate it or whatever.

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Legislation drafted by people who don't understand the internet or computers. Literally won't stop anything, but some uber-conservative is probably pounding on their chest really believing they stopped internet porn.

Thing is, Im all for not giving kids access to porn, but radical idea -- how about you parent?

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Legislation drafted by people who don't understand the internet or computers. Literally won't stop anything, but some uber-conservative is probably pounding on their chest really believing they stopped internet porn.

Thing is, Im all for not giving kids access to porn, but radical idea -- how about you parent?

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This was a bipartisan bill that passed both chambers unanimously and was also signed by Governor Beshear. This isn't some one-sided overreach that seeks to push morality onto people.

Most, if not all, states including California, are working on legislation to protect minors on the Internet and trying to figure out the intent, scope, and best implementation. There is no universally-accepted best practice on how an Internet user can prove their age. Companies like Meta have tried using AI solutions to verify a user's age, but there are obvious shortfalls.

Pornhub wants the standard to be "device-based verification", and they simply don't want to use the third-party verifier that states like Kentucky want them to use on every visit. No matter what the standard is, a kid or adult male could still just use their mom's or wife's ID to pass the verification step if they had no other workaround.
 
This was a bipartisan bill that passed both chambers unanimously and was also signed by Governor Beshear. This isn't some one-sided overreach that seeks to push morality onto people.

Most, if not all, states including California, are working on legislation to protect minors on the Internet and trying to figure out the intent, scope, and best implementation. There is no universally-accepted best practice on how an Internet user can prove their age. Companies like Meta have tried using AI solutions to verify a user's age, but there are obvious shortfalls.

Pornhub wants the standard to be "device-based verification", and they simply don't want to use the third-party verifier that states like Kentucky want them to use on every visit. No matter what the standard is, a kid or adult male could still just use their mom's or wife's ID to pass the verification step if they had no other workaround.
I want to believe there was some actual thought that went into this, but they also passed HB167 making cursive writing mandatory in elementary school. I really think their main source of information is Facebook splooge.
 
Like with alcohol and tobacco, age verification should be in place to prevent children from consuming equally (if not more) harmful products like social media and porn. If Pornhub refuses to verify they’re serving content to adults, the state of KY should prevent them from operating.

The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt is a good book to read. Parents can only do so much themselves.
 
I think somewhere in the bill that you can only have access to scrambled Cinemax channels at 12, Maxim at 15, and then six months after your drivers permit, you can get a neighbor’s playboy. Then on your 18th birthday, you can have access to Girls Gone Wild DVDs and then on your 21st birthday, it’s strictly Asian Stepsister themed pornography.

It’s either this or it’s in Project 25.
 
This was a bipartisan bill that passed both chambers unanimously and was also signed by Governor Beshear. This isn't some one-sided overreach that seeks to push morality onto people.

Most, if not all, states including California, are working on legislation to protect minors on the Internet and trying to figure out the intent, scope, and best implementation. There is no universally-accepted best practice on how an Internet user can prove their age. Companies like Meta have tried using AI solutions to verify a user's age, but there are obvious shortfalls.

Pornhub wants the standard to be "device-based verification", and they simply don't want to use the third-party verifier that states like Kentucky want them to use on every visit. No matter what the standard is, a kid or adult male could still just use their mom's or wife's ID to pass the verification step if they had no other workaround.

It was ratified. Obviously it passed.

I’ll write it again. This piece of legislation will not curb access to pornography by even 1%. The naive idea that politicians are going to conquer the internet has been defeated over and over. From Napster to Limewire to free streaming to game pirating to Tor to VPN’s, every single attempt has failed miserably.

I do see a path where a Google or Microsoft will buy in. In order for it to be effective then the market must be limited and access to non-compliant search engines must be banned. Sounds like a great way to stifle competition and tiptoe into further censorship.
 
It takes 10 seconds to install an application for chrome that requires no login and will effectively make it appear that you are from Germany etc. My 10 year old son can code on a basic level so it's my responsibility to ensure that I monitor what he's doing.

For every pornhub that will force verification there are 1000 sites that don't/won't.

I don't care if it's California or Louisiana, requiring more disclosure of your information online is stupid.
 
You're ignoring the part about it passing unanimously. Your OP made mention of an "uber-conservative" pounding their chest over this. There was no dissent from the left side of the political spectrum regarding this bill, so why try to make it about one side?
I’m not ignoring that part, I’d just rather not argue about political definitions. It’s very similar to prohibition pushed by social conservatives and the sensitivity of the subject is one where no one wants to publicly be pro pornography publicly.

But regardless of your or my application of the political dichotomy, I will reiterate again… this legislation will not stop access to pornography by even 1%.
 
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But regardless of your or my application of the political dichotomy, I will reiterate again… this legislation will not stop access to pornography by even 1%.
I don't think anybody truly expects it to stop access to pornography. Much like how ID laws won't stop underage drinking or smoking. But the politicians just finally put the onus on the websites in writing for this issue instead of requiring no accountability at all.

The local restaurant serving booze has to verify age using an ID card and so does the convenient store selling cigarettes and beer. We probably shouldn't rollback these practices, and we shouldn't expand it to force them to keep records on every person who makes a purchase either.
 
I don't think anybody truly expects it to stop access to pornography. Much like how ID laws won't stop underage drinking or smoking. But the politicians just finally put the onus on the websites in writing for this issue instead of requiring no accountability at all.

The local restaurant serving booze has to verify age using an ID card and so does the convenient store selling cigarettes and beer. We probably shouldn't rollback these practices, and we shouldn't expand it to force them to keep records on every person who makes a purchase either.
It’s not like underage drinking though. It’s not a tangible product and literally anyone of legal age can produce it. It’d be more like a parental advisory on a CD, a practice by the way that was abandoned due to its complete disregard.
 
It’s not like underage drinking though. It’s not a tangible product and literally anyone of legal age can produce it. It’d be more like a parental advisory on a CD, a practice by the way that was abandoned due to its complete disregard.
You need to have a tangible medium (computer, phone) to consume it though, so what's the real difference? Anybody can make moonshine in their home or roll their own cigarette/joint too.

Back to my original point, this was not a measure pushed solely by "uber conservatives" like you implied.
 
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You need to have a tangible medium (computer, phone) to consume it though, so what's the real difference? Anybody can make moonshine in their home or roll their own cigarette/joint too.

Back to my original point, this was not a measure pushed solely by "uber conservatives" like you implied.

Its not consumable, you can’t lock it up, and you can’t put a detective in every 14 year olds bed room waiting for them to type “big boobs.”

Furthermore the nature of the internet doesn’t respect borders and sites can be operated on complete anonymity. So, there is no real mechanism of enforcement. Basically the big sites with notoriety will comply and a million shady competitors will pop up.
 
Its not consumable, you can’t lock it up, and you can’t put a detective in every 14 year olds bed room waiting for them to type “big boobs.”

Furthermore the nature of the internet doesn’t respect borders and sites can be operated on complete anonymity. So, there is no real mechanism of enforcement. Basically the big sites with notoriety will comply and a million shady competitors will pop up.
Cool, I'm glad that you now agree that it's not just a conservative issue.
 
This will have the same effect as the war on drugs did. Absolutely none.

Unfortunately true. Some wars cant be won. All anyone can do is arm children with the tools to make the best decisions. Part of growing up and older (for those so fortunate) is making bad choices. Thats how we learn. Just have to hope kids survive such choices.

Porn itself is very damaging and is worse the younger the viewer. Same with social media. I believe we're all better off without either but wont force my view on another person. That plus the ease of access is why i think its a waste of time for government to tackle something that requires personal self restraint.
 
Ah yes, let's see how trying to curb kids from seeing internet porn in 2024 works out. The folks making decisions might be a few decades late on this one, per usual of course.

Pretty sure kids can see worse on X (formally Twitter) now. Porn made VHS into a mainstream thing and what's the fastest growing thing on the internet since the internet became something we could have in our homes? It wasn't being able to buy shoes or used books, it was porn. It's not good for a lot of people, including many in the industry, but this silliness will stop nothing and you shouldn't continue to give up your personal information, as someone else said. There's countless sites to get your fix on anything you wanna do or see that's legal and decisions like this do nothing. It's like thinking you can remove a large tree in the middle of a road by yourself using your body. We'll see how that works out for ya.
 
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I’m not ignoring that part, I’d just rather not argue about political definitions. It’s very similar to prohibition pushed by social conservatives and the sensitivity of the subject is one where no one wants to publicly be pro pornography publicly.

But regardless of your or my application of the political dichotomy, I will reiterate again… this legislation will not stop access to pornography by even 1%.

The point, I believe, was that there was NO political dichotomy, even though you suggested there was. Complaining about legislation attempting to keep porn from kids is kind of sick. I am waiting for the hall monitor to set the pro-porn-to-kids complainers straight.
 
Ah yes, let's see how trying to curb kids from seeing internet porn in 2024 works out. The folks making decisions might be a few decades late on this one, per usual of course.

Pretty sure kids can see worse on X (formally Twitter) now. Porn made VHS into a mainstream thing and what's the fastest growing thing on the internet since the internet became something we could have in our homes? It wasn't being able to buy shoes or used books, it was porn. It's not good for a lot of people, including many in the industry, but this silliness will stop nothing and you shouldn't continue to give up your personal information, as someone else said. There's countless sites to get your fix on anything you wanna do or see that's legal and decisions like this do nothing. It's like thinking you can remove a large tree in the middle of a road by yourself using your body. We'll see how that works out for ya.

Oh, here is the hall monitor not chastising the complainers, but rather joining in, because his BS is always political. Go outside and take a walk and enjoy nature, you hypocrite.
 
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The porn industry in general is heavily in bed with sex trafficking and slavery. If you consume porn, there's no way for you to know which is which. It's akin to dumpster-diving behind a McDonald's in hopes of finding an intact Big Mac inside its container.
 
Oh, here is the hall monitor not chastising the complainers, but rather joining in, because his BS is always political. Go outside and take a walk and enjoy nature, you hypocrite.
I'm taking you off ignore for a moment to say stop. You've chased me around the Paddock quoting me for the last few years and you say the exact same thing trying to get an argument going between us. Whenever I read a thread that I've posted in while not logged in, you're there, behind me, quoting me like whatever you think this is is personal. I haven't posted in the political thread in a long while and mainly post in the wrestling thread now and you've even done a couple troll posts there in the past trying to get my attention.

Stop being gd weird and obsessive and take a hint.
 
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