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Spectrum/Disney/ESPN - Suck for doing this

If it makes you feel better these Gameday shows are usually awful. Like today. Note to producers, don't hire a punter to talk football.

Yesterday Desmond Howard said the B1G was the best football conference.
 
What does woke mean, and what is bad about it?

Woke means the ACLU suing so a dude in prison with his whole face tatted that strangled and killed an 11 month old baby can get a sex change so he can identify properly.

I’ll hang up and listen while you tell me what’s wrong with that.
 
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LOTS of Florida fans were pissed too . But this morning they said they were glad they missed it . From what I have been able to gather, this was a power play by Disney to extort an astronomical fee from Spectrum. Disney has been bleeding money badly and are are desperate. I saw other people say they’ve done the same thing to YouTube TV
the third quarter of 2023, the Walt Disney Company reported a net income of around 1.41 billion U.S. dollars, whereas in the second quarter of this year, it reported 1.27 billion U.S. dollars in net income.
 
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Good Lord, Disney's revenue and profits are growing this year.
No they aren't. Revenue is up because they have raised prices for all their stuff. Profits have been slowing the last 2 years. Disney is hemorrhaging cash. Their book may show making 1 billion this month but if you are spending 2 billion...

Their problem is that they have maxed out all their price increases. They have reached the point that people will choose to not watch instead of paying that high of a price. Even in a high inflation era Disneys outflow's of cash exceeds inflation.

Their stock price is at a nine year low and several large funds have moved them from a hold to a sell. Nobody has them as a buy.

This stunt with Spectrum was because they need cash bad and it backfired.
 
While the situation is frustrating and hurts the consumer, it does prove one point - I've seen countless threads crushing Disney and ESPN (some of it justified) but at the end of the day if you're a sports fan, you need these companies, unless you just want to watch all your sports on some crappy streamer site. People can post rant how they wish these companies would go under yet here we are, jonesing for live sports content those same companies provide. These three companies aren't heroes of the working class, but this situation does show while many hate ESPN and/or Disney, we also crave the games they provide if it's football or basketball season. The epitome of a love/hate relationship.

Spectrum will more than likely cave soon, as switching is easy and the days of clamoring for 200+ channels are over. People just want the channels they know they're going to watch. Look at your Spectrum guide sometime and you'll notice channels forced on you you had no idea existed. Who needs several janky public access looking faith-based channels and about nine different home shopping channels in 2023?
That was the problem with this deal Disney was offering. It wasn't just espn. They put all their channels in a basket and was forcing them to pay more for all of them. FX, freeform and nat geo to name a few.
 
the third quarter of 2023, the Walt Disney Company reported a net income of around 1.41 billion U.S. dollars, whereas in the second quarter of this year, it reported 1.27 billion U.S. dollars in net income.
Revenues are not a problem but they have to get expenses under control. Investors didn't particularly care for the Fox acquisition but kids and parents are all in now and long into the foreseeable future. That said ESPN is the crown jewel and rumors of a spinoff could unlock tremendous value that's perhaps being undervalued by the parent company.
 
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I doubt anyone here wants to talk about sex changes, prison, or a baby being strangled. People just want to be able to see the game today. Good lord...
He asked the question and I gave him the brutal reality. I can only guess why that and this thread in general bothers you. Rights for baby stranglers, we say!! ………
 
And writing off IP for tax breaks may look good on the books but it isn't a long term solution to cash flow.
They didn’t write it off for tax breaks. They wrote it off because companies are required to evaluate the value of Goodwill on their books each year and adjust accordingly.

Disney is trying to be more focused on content and this was part of those efforts. If they feel it’s not worth the time and effort to monetize a portion of their catalog, then they have to write that off.
 
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I doubt anyone here wants to talk about sex changes, prison, or a baby being strangled. People just want to be able to see the game today. Good lord...
This is a UK chat forum.
I think you would be surprised most of here does not agree with your above crazy woke world crap either.

But to be fair we are here to talk UK sports not that stuff.
There is other places I personally talk that stuff but not here as most of us here are not here for that.
 
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I signed up for ESPN yesterday thinking I would get to see the UL GT game. Wasted 10.00! Disney ESPN and Spectrum are all terrible.
Good luck on todays game
You can't just sign up for ESPN. It's not standalone.
 
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Well just before college football kick off week.
We go to watch the Florida game tomorrow.
Spectrum has a message Disney has removed their programming right from spectrum due to negotiations.

All three of you SH!TT? business suck…..
This pisses me off so much. I’m heated. I went to even watch it on the app and they are blocking it there too.
 
I wouldn’t necessarily say Disney has the upper hand here. If the fee increase that Disney is demanding is large enough, then it may actually make financial sense for Spectrum to just walk away from Disney.

Disney also stands to lose quite a bit too if they can’t get this resolved. Only about 25% of cable subscribers watch Disney’s channels like ESPN. So at most, Spectrum would lose 25% of their subscribers who switch to something like YouTube TV.

Which also means that 75% of Spectrum’s customers remain with Spectrum, and ESPN would end up losing about 11 million subscribers. If Disney is collecting about $12 per subscriber per month for all of their channels, that ends up being about a $1.6 billion revenue hit to Disney.

It’s important to keep in mind that about 60% of ESPN’s revenue comes from pay TV subscribers who never watch a minute of sports. ESPN needs to keep high subscriber numbers to support their model, otherwise, they’re going to have to start charging sports fans monthly fees that could be more than $40 per month.
I can see this going badly which is cool. Every move Disney makes is crap now. Keep burning money so they eventually have to sell everything they ruin.
 
Why even call? They’re not gonna resolve a multi million dollar contract dispute by you calling and complaining?
Because with enough pressure they will get a deal done.. I mean if everyone cancels their service then they will move fast. Plus why should I pay for a service I’m not receiving? Do you like paying for something that doesn’t work?
 
I signed up for ESPN yesterday thinking I would get to see the UL GT game. Wasted 10.00! Disney ESPN and Spectrum are all terrible.
Good luck on todays game
I’m watching the game on ESPN+ in my Mac Air as I’m on vacation at a place that has Spectrum cable. 9.99 a month. I login and it asks for my TV provider. I’m with DirecTV. I’m wondering if you got ESPN+ and could log in and watch under your spectrum account. I’m guessing not.
 
Any suggestions on streaming services? Which are best for watching UK games?
I went with YouTubeTV. About the same price as the others, but you can fast forward through commercials on things you record. The only service I could find with that feature.
 
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I’m watching the game on ESPN+ in my Mac Air as I’m on vacation at a place that has Spectrum cable. 9.99 a month. I login and it asks for my TV provider. I’m with DirecTV. I’m wondering if you got ESPN+ and could log in and watch under your spectrum account. I’m guessing not.
I couldn’t. I had to use my T-Mobile hot spot and use my sons Direct tv for my provider .
 
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We’re all suckers because we love something that the market value is based on how much how many of us love it. There are a lot of things that if there is a price bump that I’m perfectly fine with just not buying.
I don’t know how much they would have to raise it to keep me from watching.
I kind of miss basic cable for $20 combined with JP over the air with regional coverage Even the occasional tape delay for “small” games.
 
I’m watching the game on ESPN+ in my Mac Air as I’m on vacation at a place that has Spectrum cable. 9.99 a month. I login and it asks for my TV provider. I’m with DirecTV. I’m wondering if you got ESPN+ and could log in and watch under your spectrum account. I’m guessing not.
Nope the game is on ESPN+ app and it asks for your provider and it’s blocked thru spectrum there too. First thing I tried to do.
 
I agree, but it's not because They're desperate or a sinking ship. They are literally one of the healthiest companies on the planet earth.
Maybe. I only know what I’ve read about it. And I don’t believe half of what I read nowadays, lol .
 
Interesting that when Twitter had massive layoffs and shrunk the size of their company everything was A-okay and nothing was concerning there but Disney has massive layoffs and suddenly there's visions/dreams of that company collapsing lol. I don't have Disney+, think that after decades of brilliance including the insane feat of doing the years-long Marvel story correctly they're pumping out crap now, and can completely buy them trying to raise prices...I still don't think Disney is in the rough shape some wish they were in.

I'm not taking Spectrum's side on this either though. As I said previously, a business model is jacked up when a customer can make a simple phone call, suggest they may look elsewhere, and a rep for Spectrum offers of plethora of free channels for a year and takes hundreds of dollars off the bill using some made-up 12 month sweetheart deal. It's like seeing a product online that's $100 but finding an offer coupon for $60 off. You're just telling me the product is really worth $40.
 
I’m watching the game on ESPN+ in my Mac Air as I’m on vacation at a place that has Spectrum cable. 9.99 a month. I login and it asks for my TV provider. I’m with DirecTV. I’m wondering if you got ESPN+ and could log in and watch under your spectrum account. I’m guessing not.

I know this is semantics, but if you logged in with a provider, that’s what enabling you to watch the game on the ESPN app
proper, NOT the additional subscription to ESPN+.

It’s so stupid. It should be called the ESPN app and then like, ESPNOvertime so it’d be a hell of a lot less confusing.
 
Nope the game is on ESPN+ app and it asks for your provider and it’s blocked thru spectrum there too. First thing I tried to do.

Semantics again - there is no such thing as an ESPN+ app. It is simply the ESPN app.

THEN, inside that app is a service to which you can subscribe called ESPN+

The ESPN side of the things needs your tv providers. The ESPN+ side of things requires the subscription.

It’s an absolute confusing mess
 
Interesting that when Twitter had massive layoffs and shrunk the size of their company everything was A-okay and nothing was concerning there but Disney has massive layoffs and suddenly there's visions/dreams of that company collapsing lol. I don't have Disney+, think that after decades of brilliance including the insane feat of doing the years-long Marvel story correctly they're pumping out crap now, and can completely buy them trying to raise prices...I still don't think Disney is in the rough shape some wish they were in.

I'm not taking Spectrum's side on this either though. As I said previously, a business model is jacked up when a customer can make a simple phone call, suggest they may look elsewhere, and a rep for Spectrum offers of plethora of free channels for a year and takes hundreds of dollars off the bill using some made-up 12 month sweetheart deal. It's like seeing a product online that's $100 but finding an offer coupon for $60 off. You're just telling me the product is really worth $40.
There are several reasons why it would make sense financially for a company to offer discounts to retain a customer. If customer acquisition costs are high, then you are sometimes better off keeping the existing customers even if that means you’re getting less revenue.

There are also clauses in cable companies’ contracts with the various networks that enable the cable company to get discounted rates on the channels if they have a larger subscriber base. So it may also make sense to invest a little to protect your subscriber base because it lowers your costs on the content side.
 
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I know this is semantics, but if you logged in with a provider, that’s what enabling you to watch the game on the ESPN app
proper, NOT the additional subscription to ESPN+.

It’s so stupid. It should be called the ESPN app and then like, ESPNOvertime so it’d be a hell of a lot less confusing.
I get that but there’s events I get on the app that I don’t with my provider. Big 12 basketball being one example. But I get it, my DirecTV package saved me for the UK game.
 
Herbstreit has already signed a contract with Amazon by some reports. I fear we are going to get in a situation that we need to have ESPN+, Hulu and Amazon in order to watch all our games. The deal leaked between ESPN and Amazon was talking about ESPN on Amazon being $30+ per month. Call it $45/month to watch SEC football all season in the near future.
I remember when a number of football games were radio only each year. It is definitely nice to see the game but the radio broadcast can be really good anyway. I'm fine listening to some games as opposed to buying multiple subscriptions.
 
I get that but there’s events I get on the app that I don’t with my provider. Big 12 basketball being one example. But I get it, my DirecTV package saved me for the UK game.

Correct. All those random basketball games (and lacrosse and weird stuff) are the result of the ESPN+ subscription.

They would not be watchable on the app without the subscription.
 
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Correct. All those random basketball games (and lacrosse and weird stuff) are the result of the ESPN+ subscription.

They would not be watchable on the app without the subscription.
I like watching Kansas in tight games on Monday nights, etc. Also, my DirecTV is suspended for three months as I’m never there in the summer. I was surprised I was allowed to login using my DTV info but I would not have been able to watch our game today had I not had ESPN+ since my DTV is on summer hold. So it works well in my situation. Just as I stayed up late to watch Jokovic come back from 2 sets down last night.
 
There are several reasons why it would make sense financially for a company to offer discounts to retain a customer. If customer acquisition costs are high, then you are sometimes better off keeping the existing customers even if that means you’re getting less revenue.

There are also clauses in cable companies’ contracts with the various networks that enable the cable company to get discounted rates on the channels if they have a larger subscriber base. So it may also make sense to invest a little to protect your subscriber base because it lowers your costs on the content side.
Yep, in general it costs five times more money to get a new customer vs. keeping an existing one. Also the rate of successfully keeping a customer is way higher(around 60%) than trying to get a new one to sign on(5-20%). That’s at least what it used to be when I was taking marketing in college.
 
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Boomer logic
That's some mighty ignorant sounding ageism. I thought his comment was silly myself but I fail to see where age would have any bearing. I suspect you just never miss an opportunity to attack those over a certain age.
 
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