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Shaedon Sharpe TIMELINE

And before YOU rush to get THIS point wrong, nobody's going to jail for Cal's malfeasance. No laws were broken.

But...BUT!

Maybe this blind, loyal WORSHIP of the man as the be-all end-all will diminish and people will see him for who and what he really is. People will be better off when they realize he's just a guy, and that he is good at lying.

Maybe we are basically making the same point, which is that this stuff isn't all that important, and maybe people should stop putting Cal on a pedestal and go get a life.

It's unfortunate that his own behavior brings this about, but it's better in the long run for everyone.
I'm not sure what is up with the jail business - but my "don't get this wrong" turned out to be important because you did in fact get it wrong - at the end of my first post you said I was comparing UKBB to fart jokes. Good thing I anticipated that, eh?

No, as I've already stated, UKBB is a great form of entertainment, like Led Zeppelin, but it's still entertainment.

As for who is taking it too seriously, there is nobody on this board who has as much personal like for Cal as you and a few others have dislike.

Even speaking calmly and objectively about him gets you bristly (statements like "there are no coaches with nearly the same sustained success who would leave their jobs for us"), whereas your idea of a neutral assessment is he's a dirty liar, doesn't really care about the program, is selfish and lacking in moral fiber, etc.

Show me the floweriest, most over the top personal praise of Cal and I will beat you by a factor of 10 on the other side.

Who is obssessed?
 
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I'm not sure what is up with the jail business - but my "don't get this wrong" turned out to be important because you did in fact get it wrong - at the end of my first post you said I was comparing UKBB to fart jokes. Good thing I anticipated that, eh?

No, as I've already stated, UKBB is a great form of entertainment, like Led Zeppelin, but it's still entertainment.

As for who is taking it to seriously, there is nobody on this board who has as much personal like for Cal as you and a few others have dislike.

Even speaking calmly and objectively about him gets you bristly (statements like "there are no coaches with nearly the same sustained success who would leave their jobs for us"), whereas your idea of a neutral assessment is he's a dirty liar, doesn't really care about the program, is selfish and lacking in moral fiber, etc.

Show me the floweriest, most over the top personal praise of Cal and I will beat you by a factor of 10 on the other side.

Who is obssessed?
I see you didn't read the post you replied to. That's unfortunate because I actually agreed with you. Unlike you, I actually READ your response and thought about it.

The biggest problem people have is that they are much more interested in what they themselves have to SAY than in listening to what other people tell them.

You think you know me because you filter everything I say through your prism of "he hates Cal." That's a specious and linear mindset and because of that you miss a lot of meaning and refuse to be open minded about a good discussion. In fact, you know nothing about me. You just assume you know me based on one single topic that you happen to disagree on. I have over 19,500 posts on this forum. Are all of them criticizing Cal? Nope. So you are basing your entire opinion on a sliver of information. That's really STUPID.

For your information, I've been a Cal supporter for his entire career here. I've defended him tirelessly to friends and family who called him every name in the book from shady to a cheater. I've copy/pasted that NCAA letter about Camby to people to straighten them out. I could go on and on. But THIS year I have discovered that Cal doesn't deserve that kind of loyalty because he's in it for himself and talks down to the fans. It is HIS actions that have caused this. It is not MY doing. HE deserves criticism for last season and the way he's dissimulated to the public about Sharpe. And I'm not going to back off that, and you haven't been able to move me off that, despite your personal attacks.

In fact, you just attributed phrases to me that I haven't said. Classic mischaracterization and strawman.

And then you ended with a sharp little barb, which reveals that you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to me. Can't just discuss this in a good faith manner, huh.

I'm sure you'll respond with some sort of phony witticism that will again reveal that you didn't read this entire post. When you do, you'll be blocked.
 
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A guy with 1/9 the likes I have tells me I was coming around as a poster...LOL ok I'll be sure to check with you before I post anything else, Junior.

Cal knew the benefits, costs and risks involved in bringing SS here and he made the decision to do it anyway. Now he's navigating a myriad of land mines in a situation he knew would be fluid and that he wouldn't have total control of.

On balance, Cal decided to risk alienating the fan base even further to have a #1 recruit choose him, get another kid in the NBA first round, etc. For a player he new had a good chance of never playing for UK.
You know, Cal is doing none of the things you mentioned. He has a good team, the one he planned for. A top H.S. player wants to enroll early and states he will play next year. Cal takes him. Every coach in the NCAA would do the same. Everything else, all the navigation of land mines, alienating of fans that you mention, is because of the same negative Cal fans coming up with yet, another angle.
To me, I want the kid to play if it helps the team. I also understand that he may simply be another Diallo situation except, he is good enough to leave this year. I am not upset with any of it especially to the point of dreaming up more threads to start about the same old thing.
 
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I see you didn't read the post you replied to. That's unfortunate because I actually agreed with you. Unlike you, I actually READ your response and thought about it.

The biggest problem people have is that they are much more interested in what they themselves have to SAY than in listening to what other people tell them.

You think you know me because you filter everything I say through your prism of "he hates Cal." That's a specious and linear mindset and because of that you miss a lot of meaning and refuse to be open minded about a good discussion. In fact, you know nothing about me. You just assume you know me based on one single topic that you happen to disagree on. I have over 19,500 posts on this forum. Are all of them criticizing Cal? Nope. So you are basing your entire opinion on a sliver of information. That's really STUPID.

For your information, I've been a Cal supporter for his entire career here. I've defended him tirelessly to friends and family who called him every name in the book from shady to a cheater. I've copy/pasted that NCAA letter about Camby to people to straighten them out. I could go on and on. But THIS year I have discovered that Cal doesn't deserve that kind of loyalty because he's in it for himself and talks down to the fans. It is HIS actions that have caused this. It is not MY doing. HE deserves criticism for last season and the way he's dissimulated to the public about Sharpe. And I'm not going to back off that, and you haven't been able to move me off that, despite your personal attacks.

In fact, you just attributed phrases to me that I haven't said. Classic mischaracterization and strawman.

And then you ended with a sharp little barb, which reveals that you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to me. Can't just discuss this in a good faith manner, huh.

I'm sure you'll respond with some sort of phony witticism that will again reveal that you didn't read this entire post. When you do, you'll be blocked.
It's odd you keep accusing others of using fallacies against you, but in almost every post you have made you have resulted to ad hominem attacks, strawman arguments and red herrings.

You then talk about people assuming to know you, and then turn right around and make similar assumptions about them.

The delusional mindset you appear to have been equipped with is truly a marvel to behold.

If your emotions are tied to some faux "loyalty" between yourself and a college athletics program, you might want to seriously evaluate your life choices. They are using you for revenue. Nothing more, nothing less. They owe you nothing and you owe them nothing. Enjoy it for what it is.

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The agreement needs to be plain and simple: if you are on the bench and not injured then the expectation is to play. Otherwise, there's ulterior motives and focus isn't where it should be.
Ultimately, I look for Cal to spin this as he was utilizing Sharpe as a deflection for the team. By keeping attention on him, it allowed them to experience less pressure and criticism.
 
You know, Cal is doing none of the things you mentioned. He has a good team, the one he planned for. A top H.S. player wants to enroll early and states he will play next year. Cal takes him. Every coach in the NCAA would do the same. Everything else, all the navigation of land mines, alienating of fans that you mention, is because of the same negative Cal fans coming up with yet, another angle.
To me, I want the kid to play if it helps the team. I also understand that he may simply be another Diallo situation except, he is good enough to leave this year. I am not upset with any of it especially to the point of dreaming up more threads to start about the same old thing.
You must believe that Cal had no idea that SS might be eligible for the draft this year. And if not that Cal would break his rule of advising lottery picks to move on. There's really no other way to explain your position on this.

As for the Diallo comparison, that's just folly. Unlike SS, Diallo didn't come in already a lottery pick and he actually played here.
 
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You must believe that Cal had no idea that SS might be eligible for the draft this year. And that Cal would break his rule of advising lottery picks to move on. There's really no other way to explain your position on this.

As for the Diallo comparison, that's just folly. Unlike SS, Diallo didn't come in already a lottery pick and he actually played here.
Oh, I think Cal knew when he took him in January that the draft was an option. An option... Do you tell the kid no when there is a chance, he might suit up next year? I do not know of any college coach that would not take him on their team. For us, we have simply replaced Dontae Allen as the topic of conversation as far as I can see. I like our current team and am focused on that.
 
It's odd you keep accusing others of using fallacies against you, but in almost every post you have made you have resulted to ad hominem attacks, strawman arguments and red herrings.

You then talk about people assuming to know you, and then turn right around and make similar assumptions about them.

The delusional mindset you appear to have been equipped with is truly a marvel to behold.

If your emotions are tied to some faux "loyalty" between yourself and a college athletics program, you might want to seriously evaluate your life choices. They are using you for revenue. Nothing more, nothing less. They owe you nothing and you owe them nothing. Enjoy it for what it is.

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It really sounds like what you are saying is that UK Basketball, the program, the history, doesn't really mean much to you and guess what, that is ok. That generally it's a pastime with no real ties emotionally or otherwise. That's no reason to lash out at those that choose to invest more emotionally, financially and otherwise.

This seems to be the difference between those who grew up with UK Basketball, some for generations, and what appear to be newer fans, or fans with a passing interest regardless of time spent invested, vs. those that it just means a little bit more and yes in some cases a whole lot more, which is ok too.

It may also have to do with those who are more interested in the societal aspects of everything. In the case of UK Basketball, what is it doing for poor kids and families, etc., and/or are we right in the eyes of a woke segment of society, the ultra woke NBA? Can mean different things. Same contrast seems to apply to the support Cal no matter what crowd vs. those that are program first.
 
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It really sounds like what you are saying is that UK Basketball, the program, the history, doesn't really mean much to you and guess what, that is ok. That generally it's a pastime with no real ties emotionally or otherwise. That's no reason to lash out at those that choose to invest more emotionally, financially and otherwise.

This seems to be the difference between those who grew up with UK Basketball, some for generations, and what appear to be newer fans, or fans with a passing interest regardless of time spent invested, vs. those that it just means a little bit more and yes in some cases a whole lot more, which is ok too.

It may also have to do with those who are more interested in the societal aspects of everything. In the case of UK Basketball, what is it doing for poor kids and families, and/or are we right in the eyes of a woke segment of society, the ultra woke NBA? Can mean different things. Same contrast seems to apply to the support Cal no matter what crowd vs. those that are program first.
This assessment could be true, except I have been a fan since the 60's. I have invested ample time, money, emotions and anything else a person realistically could, but, aside from the adolescent years, I understood the realities of the dynamic between fan and institution and did not inflate my expectations beyond that. You choose to be a fan, the school or program doesn't force you. You choose to invest in the program, they don't force you or guarantee you anything for doing so. They owe you nothing and you owe them nothing. This expectation that the coaches, players, administration or anyone else owe fans an explanation for anything is rooted in an unrealistic understanding of that relationship. If anything the younger generations seem to have a much better comprehension of this facet.
 
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Or, quite possibly he has handled it PERFECTLY?

It depends on your perspective. If it's all about you personally.....sure, he has totally botched it. But if it's about doing the right thing for the kid, then he's knocking it out of the park.

Do I wish he would play? Absolutely. Do I think he will? No I don't. Does Sharpe or Cal owe you or I, as a fan, an explanation? Not even remotely.
Doing the right thing for the kid. That’s grand, Cal can win his Nobel Peace Prize. Sharpe is in perfectly fine health! Why is Cal and his sycophants acting like he has glass bones, paper skin? This is a college program aiming to win titles not put kids in the NBA. Cal is rationalizing the irrational, none-and-done.
 
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This assessment could be true, except I have been a fan since the 60's. I have invested ample time, money, emotions and anything else a person realistically could, but, aside from the adolescent years, I understood the realities of the dynamic between fan and institution and did not inflate my expectations beyond that. You choose to be a fan, the school or program doesn't force you. You choose to invest in the program, they don't force you or guarantee you anything for doing so. They owe you nothing and you owe them nothing. This expectation that the coaches, players, administration or anyone else owe fans an explanation for anything is rooted in an unrealistic understanding of that relationship. If anything the younger generations seem to have a much better comprehension of this facet.

You're right, it's a choice, sometimes made for us in the early years by parents or grandparents. And, as an adult one should recognize what one's sphere of influence is. That's healthy and smart.

Here's were it gets weird for me - I have known and seen for decades what high-level major collegiate athletics really is - a farce, a ruse put out there by the powers-at-be to perpetuate a financial enterprise masquerading as an academic endeavor.

But, as you say, it's a choice. I chose to continue to follow UK Basketball mainly because of the tradition, pride in the state, my family's long history in the state, and having busted my ass for 6 years paying my way to a 4 year degree at UK. So I watch (now actually paid) mercenaries come and go all the while hoping we beat some other state's team because those unfortunate bastards aren't from the state of KY. I need to have my head examined.
 
Oh, I think Cal knew when he took him in January that the draft was an option. An option... Do you tell the kid no when there is a chance, he might suit up next year? I do not know of any college coach that would not take him on their team. For us, we have simply replaced Dontae Allen as the topic of conversation as far as I can see. I like our current team and am focused on that.
Cal didn't 'take him' in January. That's when Sharpe joined the team. Cal 'took him' in September.

Didn't you even read the timeline? It's post #1 of this thread. SMH
 
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It really sounds like what you are saying is that UK Basketball, the program, the history, doesn't really mean much to you and guess what, that is ok. That generally it's a pastime with no real ties emotionally or otherwise. That's no reason to lash out at those that choose to invest more emotionally, financially and otherwise.

This seems to be the difference between those who grew up with UK Basketball, some for generations, and what appear to be newer fans, or fans with a passing interest regardless of time spent invested, vs. those that it just means a little bit more and yes in some cases a whole lot more, which is ok too.

It may also have to do with those who are more interested in the societal aspects of everything. In the case of UK Basketball, what is it doing for poor kids and families, etc., and/or are we right in the eyes of a woke segment of society, the ultra woke NBA? Can mean different things. Same contrast seems to apply to the support Cal no matter what crowd vs. those that are program first.
That's Baller Cal. He has exactly the same demeanor and attitude towards UK basketball. He's a pretend fan.
 
Cal didn't 'take him' in January. That's when Sharpe joined the team. Cal 'took him' in September.

Didn't you even read the timeline? It's post #1 of this thread. SMH

Cal didn't 'take him' in January. That's when Sharpe joined the team. Cal 'took him' in September.

Didn't you even read the timeline? It's post #1 of this thread. SMH
I read the timeline briefly. He committed in September so sure, Cal agreed to take him. That is your point?
He also took Wallace, Clark and Livingston. SMH
 
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Or, quite possibly he has handled it PERFECTLY?

It depends on your perspective. If it's all about you personally.....sure, he has totally botched it. But if it's about doing the right thing for the kid, then he's knocking it out of the park.

Do I wish he would play? Absolutely. Do I think he will? No I don't. Does Sharpe or Cal owe you or I, as a fan, an explanation? Not even remotely.
The University of Kentucky basketball program is NOT Cal's personal little fiefdom where he rules with an iron fist. My kid's tuition is higher at UK because of the free rides given to scholarship athletes. If Cal has a player enjoying the benefits of this scholarship (ie training for pros and NIL deals), then that player is obligated to earn the scholarship, imo. Does he have to play this year? No, and at this point I'd be fearful of disrupting a strength of this team (chemistry) by adding him this season. Come back next year and anchor what should be another contender. But, if he leaves this year w/out ever playing a game, that's unacceptable.
 
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Doing the right thing for the kid. That’s grand, Cal can win his Nobel Peace Prize. Sharpe is in perfectly fine health! Why is Cal and his sycophants acting like he has glass bones, paper skin? This is a college program aiming to win titles not put kids in the NBA. Cal is rationalizing the irrational, none-and-done.
The sooner that you realize that Sharpe and Cal don't answer to you, the better
The University of Kentucky basketball program is NOT Cal's personal little fiefdom where he rules with an iron fist. My kid's tuition is higher at UK because of the free rides given to scholarship athletes. If Cal has a player enjoying the benefits of this scholarship (ie training for pros and NIL deals), then that player is obligated to earn the scholarship, imo. Does he have to play this year? No, and at this point I'd be fearful of disrupting a strength of this team (chemistry) by adding him this season. Come back next year and anchor what should be another contender. But, if he leaves this year w/out ever playing a game, that's unacceptable.
Cal may not be a king, but he is the coach. He gets to make the call to help kids in the best way that he sees fit. None of us have to like it, but we also don't get a vote.

Actually, you do have an opportunity to make your voice heard. Tell the UK administration your kid will be transferring to UL because Cal raised the tuition rate.
 
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Sept 7 - Sharpe commits to UK
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Nov 9 - Sharpe announces he will enroll at UK in January
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Nov 18 - Calipari states that Sharpe unlikely to play "I don't think so...we'll see."
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Article also stated Sharpe's mentor Dwayne Washington said there was no chance Sharpe would play this season -
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Jan 6 - Sharpe enrolls at UK and begins practices
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Jan 7 - Calipari admits hiding his plan of Sharpe not playing from the public to keep the buzz going

“He’s a ways away from playing games,” Calipari said. “It may be a year from now. They all know. I talked to them. We don’t have a plan for him to play this year. Maybe he does, but that is not the plan and never has been. Now I never said it because I wanted everybody to go crazy, all the other places. But the reality of it is we’ve never had a plan. If you ask me right now, my guess is he won’t play. But you don’t know what happens. We’ve had injury after injury, this happened, that happened, we’re down to 6, 7 guys. I may tell him ‘look, man, you’ve gotta go in 7 minutes a game. You’ve gotta play some.’ But my hope is we’re never there.”
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Jan 20 - Calipari teases Sharpe will play "if he's ready."

“He’s watching,” Calipari added. “Whether I play him or not this year, if he’s ready to be in games, I’ll put him in. He’s a great kid, and he’s doing well. And he’s going to make practices even better. He’s only been here two weeks. But, at the end of the day, you know I’m going to be for kids. That’s how I do this.”

It falls in line with what the UK head coach said about Sharpe last week, praising the five-star guard’s skill and shot-making ability, but adding that he’s still adjusting to the speed and pace of the college game.

“If he’s not ready to play, I would not put him out there,” Calipari said last week. “… You can’t do that to the kid — unless he’s ready. If he’s ready, I say let’s go.
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Jan 20 - ESPN reports Sharpe eligible for 2022 draft
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Jan 22 - Dwayne Washington (Sharpe's mentor) says the NBA KNEW that Sharpe was eligible for the 2022 draft BEFORE he came to school, but he did not tell Calipari. But he also said he told Calipari that Sharpe would be back next year.

“It’s pretty idiotic. Everybody knew that this was an option, but we’re not taking it,” Washington told KSR. “He lost millions coming to school. He came to get better. … You come to get ready if you want to go to the NBA, which is one of the goals. You have to be ready. People don’t respect Calipari’s ability to develop enough, that’s why (Shaedon’s) there.

“He’s not there to sit on the bench and wave at fans. He’s coming back next year. If he doesn’t play this year, he’s coming back next year.”

“This is not new news to us. We knew about this before he came to school,” Washington told KSR. “This news is not news to anybody in the NBA. … People just found out, but NBA people already knew.”
“I didn’t even tell Calipari,” Washington said. “Calipari was like, ‘Do you think he could do it?’ I said, ‘Honestly, it doesn’t matter, because he’s not going.’ He said, ‘OK, if you say so.’ Because everything I’ve said has happened.”

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Jan 22 - Auburn defeats UK 80-71

Calipari in postgame says, “I have told his parents that I am not going to put him in a position where he hurts himself. I am not. And we’re going to do this, the process of this, and if he ends up playing this year because he’s capable of doing it and he can play, we’ll play him. But I’m not just shoving him in so we can win another game or stay closer. I’m not going to do that.”
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Jan 24 - Calipari teases possibility of Sharpe playing

"The last couple days he’s stepped on the gas a little bit and done some things," Calipari said. "I think our team would like me to put him in. We're doing stuff and something happens in practice, he does something, they all kind of look at me like, 'Come on now, If that's who he is, put him in.'"
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Feb 2 - UK defeats Vanderbilt 77-70. Sharpe does not play and has not played a minute.

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Calipari stated flatly that he withheld the fact that he did not intend to play Sharpe so that he could create buzz around him. Since then he has said, numerous times, that he a) is not ready and b) will play if he's ready and c) he will not play the 'kid' if it hurts his draft status. He has even said all three things in the same interview.

It's very likely that Calipari continues to tease because this continues to create buzz around Sharpe and keep fans interested. This is like a game to him. It's likely because he already admitted doing it.

Dwayne Washington stated that everybody except Calipari knew that Sharpe would be eligible for the draft THIS YEAR. In fact, he did NOT state that Calipari didn't know - he stated that he himself did not TELL Calipari. That doesn't mean Calipari didn't know. In fact, if Calipari DID know before the season and let him join this year anyway, that might have created bad press. So Washington's statement is a bit of cover for Calipari. He also stated Sharpe will play at UK next year. Who knows if any of it is true.

So we're to BELIEVE that EVERYBODY EXCEPT CALIPARI knew that Sharpe was eligible for the draft BEFORE the season.

The one fact that is undisputed is that Sharpe continues to sit.
This is an absolutely beautiful example of a complete and miserable failure to understand coach speack. It is coupled with a vile hatred of KY coupled with an unscrupulous exploit of a kid to fuel hatred in others.
 
Do they give trophies for being ranked #5 on February 4th? People keep saying “we’re ranked 5th in the country”, let’s see where we finish. I want a team that gives us our best chance to finish #1 in the country, not ranked 5th in February.
Last seasons awful team has lowered expectations to the point people are just happy we don’t suck.
 
This is exactly my take on the situation . I couldn’t care less if he plays this year as long as he plays next year . I’d rather him on next team also because I think we would get the better version of him then than throwing him in there now .

Like you said if he doesn’t play in either year then that will be the big issue .
Here's something to consider: remember how Cal was open to Hami not suiting up for UK? They had that phone call two hours before the deadline where Hami had not made up his mind. Cal finally told him to make a choice, and get off the phone with him. Hami then made up his mind to play his one season at UK.

So think about that. We had been told Hami was almost a guarantee to play that first year, but he was literally on the fence an hour before the deadline and Cal was perfectly fine with him going pro if he wanted to.

This was after we had been told Hami was all but certain to play his first year at UK. In other words, Cal and Hami knew that he was anything but certain to play that year.

Sharpe has a much bigger reason to go this summer than Hami did. For one, Sharpe is a top 10 pick whereas Hami was a fringe first/second round pick.

I think Sharpe bolts, and I think Cal will support the decision when it's made. He'll tell us things changed or something incoherent, and then he'll try to distract us with a bunch of grad transfer signings.
 
Do they give trophies for being ranked #5 on February 4th? People keep saying “we’re ranked 5th in the country”, let’s see where we finish. I want a team that gives us our best chance to finish #1 in the country, not ranked 5th in February.
Last seasons awful team has lowered expectations to the point people are just happy we don’t suck.
Doesn’t being ranked top 5 give us the best chance to finish #1 as it means we will get a high seed in the tournament? And no offense but I’d say giving Kansas their 16th loss at home in the past 17 years and doing it in a blowout fashion when they have been top5 all season and blowing out almost every team we’ve played since mid December is a little better than just “not sucking”
 
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The sooner that you realize that Sharpe and Cal don't answer to you, the better

Cal may not be a king, but he is the coach. He gets to make the call to help kids in the best way that he sees fit. None of us have to like it, but we also don't get a vote.

Actually, you do have an opportunity to make your voice heard. Tell the UK administration your kid will be transferring to UL because Cal raised the tuition rate.
You often have good takes...this ain't one of those times
 
Doesn’t being ranked top 5 give us the best chance to finish #1 as it means we will get a high seed in the tournament? And no offense but I’d say giving Kansas their 16th loss at home in the past 17 years and doing it in a blowout fashion when they have been top5 all season and blowing out almost every team we’ve played since mid December is a little better than just “not sucking”
I want the best team and players playing we can get on the floor. We made a huge jump ranking wise beating Kansas. Let’s see where we are come tournament time. We aren’t a finished product as we shouldn’t be.
 
I see you didn't read the post you replied to. That's unfortunate because I actually agreed with you. Unlike you, I actually READ your response and thought about it.

The biggest problem people have is that they are much more interested in what they themselves have to SAY than in listening to what other people tell them.

You think you know me because you filter everything I say through your prism of "he hates Cal." That's a specious and linear mindset and because of that you miss a lot of meaning and refuse to be open minded about a good discussion. In fact, you know nothing about me. You just assume you know me based on one single topic that you happen to disagree on. I have over 19,500 posts on this forum. Are all of them criticizing Cal? Nope. So you are basing your entire opinion on a sliver of information. That's really STUPID.

For your information, I've been a Cal supporter for his entire career here. I've defended him tirelessly to friends and family who called him every name in the book from shady to a cheater. I've copy/pasted that NCAA letter about Camby to people to straighten them out. I could go on and on. But THIS year I have discovered that Cal doesn't deserve that kind of loyalty because he's in it for himself and talks down to the fans. It is HIS actions that have caused this. It is not MY doing. HE deserves criticism for last season and the way he's dissimulated to the public about Sharpe. And I'm not going to back off that, and you haven't been able to move me off that, despite your personal attacks.

In fact, you just attributed phrases to me that I haven't said. Classic mischaracterization and strawman.

And then you ended with a sharp little barb, which reveals that you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to me. Can't just discuss this in a good faith manner, huh.

I'm sure you'll respond with some sort of phony witticism that will again reveal that you didn't read this entire post. When you do, you'll be blocked.
No, you're exactly who I thought you were. Your self-description here only cements my impression.

You're the kind of patient we're trained to be cautious around. He/she enters the office, talks about what a malpracticing idiot their former doc was, and immediately starts praising you, your office, your front staff, the photo of your dog on the desk, and talking about how they know from Google that you're the best to ever do it.

The red flags don't get any brighter than that. That extreme up/down attribute characterizes most of the loudest negative posters on the board. They can't regulate emotion, so their outrageous expectations come crashing down on them when not met (which is almost always).

You were a fan of Cal his whole career and were "loyal" to him before? You spent your free time tirelessly defending his honor from your friends and relatives? Given your energy level, that sounds absolutely exhausting.

I don't think he's a particularly great or evil man. He's a basketball coach - he's not Anne Frank. He's not a war hero.

He deserves "loyalty" to the extent that no remotely viable alternative in CBB can compete with him in the long run. Add that to the fact that exhibits generally decent behavior and recruits good kids, and yeah - it's wholly logical to tolerate the occasional down year and frequent annoying interview quotes. He's among the best at what he does and with all the debauchery you see with college coaches, you never have to worry about Pitino-type nonsense with him.

And look, I'm not here to launch personal attacks and call you stupid. You can take that approach if you wish. I think overly-emotional people bring a lot to the table in certain areas. But the only people who love Cal with the intensity of the Cal haters are the same up/down types who are just temporarily on the other side of the pendulum.
 
Mac Etienne who was arrested for spitting on Arizona fan for assault.

Enters the 2021-22 season as a redshirt freshman (Etienne enrolled at UCLA midway through the 2020-21 school year) … has four years of eligibility remaining.

2020-21
Played in 13 games, making one start … averaged 2.6 points and 2.8 rebounds in 11.4 minutes per game … shot 60 percent from the field (15-for-25) … had three assists, two blocks and two steals … made his collegiate debut in UCLA’s game at USC (Feb. 6, 2021),

Similar, he first played February 6th. Today is the 4th of February.

Oh, but our situation is totally mishandled. What a joke. Let's let the coaches handle their job and let's hush the peanut gallery.
We have a great team as is. I seriously doubt he could come in with our schedule and play better than what we got. I'll believe it when I see it.

Let's beat Bama!!!

Go Cats
 
A guy I know had a Hellcat Challenger. I may have the colors wrong but with the yellow key it had 707 horsepower and with the black key it had 500 horsepower. A lot of our fans would be happy driving it around with the black key all the time.
 
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Mac Etienne who was arrested for spitting on Arizona fan for assault.

Enters the 2021-22 season as a redshirt freshman (Etienne enrolled at UCLA midway through the 2020-21 school year) … has four years of eligibility remaining.

2020-21
Played in 13 games, making one start … averaged 2.6 points and 2.8 rebounds in 11.4 minutes per game … shot 60 percent from the field (15-for-25) … had three assists, two blocks and two steals … made his collegiate debut in UCLA’s game at USC (Feb. 6, 2021),

Similar, he first played February 6th. Today is the 4th of February.

Oh, but our situation is totally mishandled. What a joke. Let's let the coaches handle their job and let's hush the peanut gallery.
We have a great team as is. I seriously doubt he could come in with our schedule and play better than what we got. I'll believe it when I see it.

Let's beat Bama!!!

Go Cats
Hopefully Sharpe spits in some fans too! 🤣
 
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