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Shaedon Sharpe TIMELINE

oh I will be cheesed if he never plays. But I can’t worry about that right now. Not a thing I can do. Now yes, if we have injuries, I will place greater stress on it.
Bud you better get prepared , the writing is clearly on the wall.. There are 9 games left .. he isn't getting throw in tomorrow at Alabama , not just " to win a game " .. and he's not turning down 10-15 million bucks to play college ball , Cal doesnt allow that . So he isn't playing . Ever .
 
Choice 1: Sharpe comes to UK with the plan being to not play this year.

Choice 2: Sharpe never comes to UK.

There is no difference for the team, but the problem is Choice 1 offends the sensibilities of a lot of fans.
 
Sept 7 - Sharpe commits to UK
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Nov 9 - Sharpe announces he will enroll at UK in January
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Nov 18 - Calipari states that Sharpe unlikely to play "I don't think so...we'll see."
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Article also stated Sharpe's mentor Dwayne Washington said there was no chance Sharpe would play this season -
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Jan 6 - Sharpe enrolls at UK and begins practices
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Jan 7 - Calipari admits hiding his plan of Sharpe not playing from the public to keep the buzz going

“He’s a ways away from playing games,” Calipari said. “It may be a year from now. They all know. I talked to them. We don’t have a plan for him to play this year. Maybe he does, but that is not the plan and never has been. Now I never said it because I wanted everybody to go crazy, all the other places. But the reality of it is we’ve never had a plan. If you ask me right now, my guess is he won’t play. But you don’t know what happens. We’ve had injury after injury, this happened, that happened, we’re down to 6, 7 guys. I may tell him ‘look, man, you’ve gotta go in 7 minutes a game. You’ve gotta play some.’ But my hope is we’re never there.”
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Jan 20 - Calipari teases Sharpe will play "if he's ready."

“He’s watching,” Calipari added. “Whether I play him or not this year, if he’s ready to be in games, I’ll put him in. He’s a great kid, and he’s doing well. And he’s going to make practices even better. He’s only been here two weeks. But, at the end of the day, you know I’m going to be for kids. That’s how I do this.”

It falls in line with what the UK head coach said about Sharpe last week, praising the five-star guard’s skill and shot-making ability, but adding that he’s still adjusting to the speed and pace of the college game.

“If he’s not ready to play, I would not put him out there,” Calipari said last week. “… You can’t do that to the kid — unless he’s ready. If he’s ready, I say let’s go.
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Jan 20 - ESPN reports Sharpe eligible for 2022 draft
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Jan 22 - Dwayne Washington (Sharpe's mentor) says the NBA KNEW that Sharpe was eligible for the 2022 draft BEFORE he came to school, but he did not tell Calipari. But he also said he told Calipari that Sharpe would be back next year.

“It’s pretty idiotic. Everybody knew that this was an option, but we’re not taking it,” Washington told KSR. “He lost millions coming to school. He came to get better. … You come to get ready if you want to go to the NBA, which is one of the goals. You have to be ready. People don’t respect Calipari’s ability to develop enough, that’s why (Shaedon’s) there.

“He’s not there to sit on the bench and wave at fans. He’s coming back next year. If he doesn’t play this year, he’s coming back next year.”

“This is not new news to us. We knew about this before he came to school,” Washington told KSR. “This news is not news to anybody in the NBA. … People just found out, but NBA people already knew.”
“I didn’t even tell Calipari,” Washington said. “Calipari was like, ‘Do you think he could do it?’ I said, ‘Honestly, it doesn’t matter, because he’s not going.’ He said, ‘OK, if you say so.’ Because everything I’ve said has happened.”

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Jan 22 - Auburn defeats UK 80-71

Calipari in postgame says, “I have told his parents that I am not going to put him in a position where he hurts himself. I am not. And we’re going to do this, the process of this, and if he ends up playing this year because he’s capable of doing it and he can play, we’ll play him. But I’m not just shoving him in so we can win another game or stay closer. I’m not going to do that.”
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Jan 24 - Calipari teases possibility of Sharpe playing

"The last couple days he’s stepped on the gas a little bit and done some things," Calipari said. "I think our team would like me to put him in. We're doing stuff and something happens in practice, he does something, they all kind of look at me like, 'Come on now, If that's who he is, put him in.'"
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Feb 2 - UK defeats Vanderbilt 77-70. Sharpe does not play and has not played a minute.

Summary:


Calipari stated flatly that he withheld the fact that he did not intend to play Sharpe so that he could create buzz around him. Since then he has said, numerous times, that he a) is not ready and b) will play if he's ready and c) he will not play the 'kid' if it hurts his draft status. He has even said all three things in the same interview.

It's very likely that Calipari continues to tease because this continues to create buzz around Sharpe and keep fans interested. This is like a game to him. It's likely because he already admitted doing it.

Dwayne Washington stated that everybody except Calipari knew that Sharpe would be eligible for the draft THIS YEAR. In fact, he did NOT state that Calipari didn't know - he stated that he himself did not TELL Calipari. That doesn't mean Calipari didn't know. In fact, if Calipari DID know before the season and let him join this year anyway, that might have created bad press. So Washington's statement is a bit of cover for Calipari. He also stated Sharpe will play at UK next year. Who knows if any of it is true.

So we're to BELIEVE that EVERYBODY EXCEPT CALIPARI knew that Sharpe was eligible for the draft BEFORE the season.

The one fact that is undisputed is that Sharpe continues to sit.
Dude, you need to get laid, drink some rum, go eat some wings outside your house, something
 
Choice 1: Sharpe comes to UK with the plan being to not play this year.

Choice 2: Sharpe never comes to UK.

There is no difference for the team, but the problem is Choice 1 offends the sensibilities of a lot of fans.
And why wouldn't choice 1 offend the fans?

If he came here with the intention to never play for UK, that's truly the first time in college basketball history where a freshman used a university as a waystation to make some money (without playing) before the draft.

I know we're supposed to believe the "it's not about us" propaganda; but actually, it is about us. Cal's salary and the tens of millions of dollars that are placed into the facilities are not funded in a vacuum. It's the fans that have been the lifeblood of this program, and for too many years our fans have been shamed into thinking their views matter.
 
Bud you better get prepared , the writing is clearly on the wall.. There are 9 games left .. he isn't getting throw in tomorrow at Alabama , not just " to win a game " .. and he's not turning down 10-15 million bucks to play college ball , Cal doesnt allow that . So he isn't playing . Ever .

Cal doesn't allow them to turn down that kind of money unless there is potential for him to make a bunch. The shoe thing that Matt Jones said on KSR is going to happen and it's going to surprise some with the amount of money that'll be thrown. In due time....
 
There’s a couple qualifiers in your statement. What if we lost 2 or 3 in a row or have a couple players injured, you gonna care then? What if he doesn’t play this year or next year, gonna care then?

Personally, as long as he either plays this year or next year, I’m perfectly fine with it. It’s absolutely unacceptable if the kid never plays a game for UK, however. I’ve always wanted him more for next season anyway. At this point, it’s almost too late to even add him to this year’s rotation.

EDIT: In any event, if posters wanna create threads about Sharpe, why the hell should anyone care? Who’s gives a shit. I know I sure don’t.
This is exactly my take on the situation . I couldn’t care less if he plays this year as long as he plays next year . I’d rather him on next team also because I think we would get the better version of him then than throwing him in there now .

Like you said if he doesn’t play in either year then that will be the big issue .
 
So the dude hasn’t played organized BB since his Junior season in high school, is too timid to play against college competition outside of practice, but is somehow going to make $100 million some day playing against grown ass men in the NBA?

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And why wouldn't choice 1 offend the fans?

If he came here with the intention to never play for UK, that's truly the first time in college basketball history where a freshman used a university as a waystation to make some money (without playing) before the draft.

I know we're supposed to believe the "it's not about us" propaganda; but actually, it is about us. Cal's salary and the tens of millions of dollars that are placed into the facilities are not funded in a vacuum. It's the fans that have been the lifeblood of this program, and for too many years our fans have been shamed into thinking their views matter.
I was only talking about this season, but if he doesn’t play next season either then Kentucky made a small investment that didn’t work out. It is a very small problem, especially when the pool of potential players to take his place is significantly larger than it was a few years ago when we faced this same scenario with Hamidou Diallo. You aren’t going to convince me that some perceived microaggression against the fanbase is actually a catastrophe.
 
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Summary:

Calipari stated flatly that he withheld the fact that he did not intend to play Sharpe so that he could create buzz around him. Since then he has said, numerous times, that he a) is not ready and b) will play if he's ready and c) he will not play the 'kid' if it hurts his draft status. He has even said all three things in the same interview.

It's very likely that Calipari continues to tease because this continues to create buzz around Sharpe and keep fans interested. This is like a game to him. It's likely because he already admitted doing it.

Dwayne Washington stated that everybody except Calipari knew that Sharpe would be eligible for the draft THIS YEAR. In fact, he did NOT state that Calipari didn't know - he stated that he himself did not TELL Calipari. That doesn't mean Calipari didn't know. In fact, if Calipari DID know before the season and let him join this year anyway, that might have created bad press. So Washington's statement is a bit of cover for Calipari. He also stated Sharpe will play at UK next year. Who knows if any of it is true.

So we're to BELIEVE that EVERYBODY EXCEPT CALIPARI knew that Sharpe was eligible for the draft BEFORE the season.

The one fact that is undisputed is that Sharpe continues to sit.
In all of this you are making a bunch of assumptions though. The biggest assumption people are making is that Sharpe would actually make the team better. He may not. The NBA doesn't draft players because they are really good now, they draft players they think will be really good at some point. Right now, we are a team that is greater than the sum of it's parts. Sharpe could change that. If I told you that UK would win the title this year, but only if Sharpe doesn't play, would you still be mad that he isn't playing?

I also think it is funny that we believe a person is telling the truth about some things, but lying about others. Washington says everybody knew he was draft eligible before he came to UK, and we take that as fact. But when he says he will play next year, we think he is lying.
Cal has completely mishandled Sharpe situation
Why do you believe he has mishandled it? You wouldn't take the #1 player in the country, even if the possibility of him playing was slim? Sharpe himself has said he would play if he is asked to. Maybe he just isn't ready to contribute, or maybe he doesn't make the team better. If Sharpe never plays a game for UK, what have we lost? Would it not be the same as if he never came to UK?
There’s a couple qualifiers in your statement. What if we lost 2 or 3 in a row or have a couple players injured, you gonna care then? What if he doesn’t play this year or next year, gonna care then?

Personally, as long as he either plays this year or next year, I’m perfectly fine with it. It’s absolutely unacceptable if the kid never plays a game for UK, however. I’ve always wanted him more for next season anyway. At this point, it’s almost too late to even add him to this year’s rotation.

EDIT: In any event, if posters wanna create threads about Sharpe, why the hell should anyone care? Who’s gives a shit. I know I sure don’t.
At the end of the day, it isn't going to be any different if he doesn't play than if he never came.
And why wouldn't choice 1 offend the fans?

If he came here with the intention to never play for UK, that's truly the first time in college basketball history where a freshman used a university as a waystation to make some money (without playing) before the draft.

I know we're supposed to believe the "it's not about us" propaganda; but actually, it is about us. Cal's salary and the tens of millions of dollars that are placed into the facilities are not funded in a vacuum. It's the fans that have been the lifeblood of this program, and for too many years our fans have been shamed into thinking their views matter.
I agree that the fans are the reason UK's coach makes the money he does. However, why are we as fans trying to micromanage the basketball team?? Cal should answer for 9-16 last year. He shouldn't have to answer for whether Allen plays, or whether Sharpe plays. As fans we just have to decide, is Cal winning enough to continue to be UK's coach, are we satisfied with him. Well.....

Cal took over the #1 program in the country and since has won at a higher clip than the historical average of UK. He has exceeded the historical Final Four rate. He has won more tournament games than anybody since he arrived, and that is in spite of the fact he has missed 2 tournaments. He is really close on the title rate, 1 title in 11 tournaments, UK average 1 every 10 years historically, but since 1958 is only averaging 1 every 15 years. There are exactly 2 active coaches that have won multiple titles, and only 10 active coaches that have ever won a title. One of those multiple title coaches is retiring at the end of the season.

We have a top 5 team, are 18-4, and there is more conversation about a guy sitting at the end of the bench that may never play than there is about how awesome this team is. This team is fun to watch, has a bunch of likeable players, and they are winning at a pretty good clip. There is a pretty big game tomorrow @Alabama, and we are concerned about some players intentions?? We should be focusing our attention toward willing this team to a title, cause they are good enough to do it.
 
So the dude hasn’t played organized BB since his Junior season in high school, is too timid to play against college competition outside of practice, but is somehow going to make $100 million some day playing against grown ass men in the NBA?

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Thats the sad society we live in . The NBA might not give him 100 mil , but they give him 10-20 or close .. until people stop supporting that shit hole entity ( the entire NBA ) then unproven guys like Skal, Sharpe etc can get paid with the hope they eventually pan out .
 
Funny how people read things from the same fact quotes, I see Coach Cal way beyond hesitant to play him this year, all you panic pauls and whining wilmas see his "you never say never because you can't see what might happen" as teasing us that he will play. He doesn't want to play him this year Dudes, period. Get over your periods.
 
Cal knew the benefits, costs and risks involved in bringing SS here and he made the decision to do it anyway. Now he's navigating a myriad of land mines in a situation he knew would be fluid and that he wouldn't have total control of.

On balance, Cal decided to risk alienating the fan base even further to have a #1 recruit choose him, get another kid in the NBA first round, etc. For a player he new had a good chance of never playing for UK.
 
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I, for one, appreciate you putting this together.

The "ho-hum", smart aleck contingent of the fan base may not like what you did here (because it doesn't help their narrative), but it doesn't matter. You have everything right there, with all the quotes. You should update this as more information comes in. It's useful to the discussions because it presents all the factual quotes.
Appreciate it. I spent some time on it. I was seeing all the comments and opinions and decided to research it all myself and get the facts right.
 
In all of this you are making a bunch of assumptions though. The biggest assumption people are making is that Sharpe would actually make the team better. He may not. The NBA doesn't draft players because they are really good now, they draft players they think will be really good at some point. Right now, we are a team that is greater than the sum of it's parts. Sharpe could change that. If I told you that UK would win the title this year, but only if Sharpe doesn't play, would you still be mad that he isn't playing?

I also think it is funny that we believe a person is telling the truth about some things, but lying about others. Washington says everybody knew he was draft eligible before he came to UK, and we take that as fact. But when he says he will play next year, we think he is lying.

Why do you believe he has mishandled it? You wouldn't take the #1 player in the country, even if the possibility of him playing was slim? Sharpe himself has said he would play if he is asked to. Maybe he just isn't ready to contribute, or maybe he doesn't make the team better. If Sharpe never plays a game for UK, what have we lost? Would it not be the same as if he never came to UK?

At the end of the day, it isn't going to be any different if he doesn't play than if he never came.

I agree that the fans are the reason UK's coach makes the money he does. However, why are we as fans trying to micromanage the basketball team?? Cal should answer for 9-16 last year. He shouldn't have to answer for whether Allen plays, or whether Sharpe plays. As fans we just have to decide, is Cal winning enough to continue to be UK's coach, are we satisfied with him. Well.....

Cal took over the #1 program in the country and since has won at a higher clip than the historical average of UK. He has exceeded the historical Final Four rate. He has won more tournament games than anybody since he arrived, and that is in spite of the fact he has missed 2 tournaments. He is really close on the title rate, 1 title in 11 tournaments, UK average 1 every 10 years historically, but since 1958 is only averaging 1 every 15 years. There are exactly 2 active coaches that have won multiple titles, and only 10 active coaches that have ever won a title. One of those multiple title coaches is retiring at the end of the season.

We have a top 5 team, are 18-4, and there is more conversation about a guy sitting at the end of the bench that may never play than there is about how awesome this team is. This team is fun to watch, has a bunch of likeable players, and they are winning at a pretty good clip. There is a pretty big game tomorrow @Alabama, and we are concerned about some players intentions?? We should be focusing our attention toward willing this team to a title, cause they are good enough to do it.
"Sharpe sux" followed by "Cal is TEH GREATESTEST JUST LOOK AT THE FIRST FIVE YEARS!!!"
 
I was only talking about this season, but if he doesn’t play next season either then Kentucky made a small investment that didn’t work out. It is a very small problem, especially when the pool of potential players to take his place is significantly larger than it was a few years ago when we faced this same scenario with Hamidou Diallo. You aren’t going to convince me that some perceived microaggression against the fanbase is actually a catastrophe.
That's a strawman. Is anyone using any form or synonym of the word 'catastrophe?' Nope. But it does undercut Cal's credibility and character because it indicates that he was willing to pimp out the University of Kentucky in order to garner himself a gold star in his recruiting scrapbook.
 
That's a strawman. Is anyone using any form or synonym of the word 'catastrophe?' Nope. But it does undercut Cal's credibility and character because it indicates that he was willing to pimp out the University of Kentucky in order to garner himself a gold star in his recruiting scrapbook.
If I thought our coach was a no better than a pimp treating the university like a whore, not even for money but for scrapbook stickers, then I would think that’s a catastrophe.
 
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If I thought our coach was a no better than a pimp treating the university like a whore, not even for money but for scrapbook stickers, then I would think that’s a catastrophe.
Really? Then you a) have an unbalanced threshold, and b) you don't have the faintest clue how to understand people on the internet. You are the ONLY ONE here saying it would be a catastrophe. I feel sorry for you.
 
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Lmao it's kids throwing a ball in a hoop. And they're winning. What else do you have going on in life that this situation requires defcon 1 intensity at all times?
It's just 'kids throwing a ball in a hoop?' Then why do people have to pay for tickets? Why the expense in hiring a coach and paying him $9 million a year? Why pay his expenses to fly him all over the country to try to find the best players to play here? Why does television cover it if it's just 'kids throwing a ball in a hoop?'

My God. How dumb are you?
 
I just get the impression by what's been said that Cal knew all along he was never gonna play for UK but took the recruit anyway because even if he doesn't play it gives him a recruiting win and brings attention to the program.

I think Cal and his handler made this deal. Sharpe chooses UK and gives the program some publicity and a #1 class. UK gives the kid the opportunity to practice and learn from Cal without risking his draft stock.

I'll be stunned if he ever plays a minute here. No matter what his handler says there is no chance he's gonna turn down a lottery pick to risk his draft stock next year while losing millions playing college ball. It's a stupid move as much as id love to see it.

We have seen this year how badly a guy can hurt his stock with a year in college.
 
Really? Then you a) have an unbalanced threshold, and b) you don't have the faintest clue how to understand people on the internet. You are the ONLY ONE here saying it would be a catastrophe. I feel sorry for you.
Lol! No big deal, just a pimp trading a prostitute for some little adhesives for his scrapbook. No need to do something weird like make an 18 paragraph post about it.
 
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Lol! No big deal, just a pimp trading a prostitute for some little adhesives for his scrapbook. No need to do something weird like make an 18 paragraph post about it.
You apparently can't read. There's nothing weird in that post. A lot of people have a lot of misconceptions about the facts and the timeline, and this post straightens it all out. I get that you don't appreciate it, but I didn't do it for you.

But thanks for bumping my thread!
 
It's just 'kids throwing a ball in a hoop?' Then why do people have to pay for tickets? Why the expense in hiring a coach and paying him $9 million a year? Why pay his expenses to fly him all over the country to try to find the best players to play here? Why does television cover it if it's just 'kids throwing a ball in a hoop?'

My God. How dumb are you?
Because maybe kids throwing a ball through a hoop is entertaining? No?
 
It's just 'kids throwing a ball in a hoop?' Then why do people have to pay for tickets? Why the expense in hiring a coach and paying him $9 million a year? Why pay his expenses to fly him all over the country to try to find the best players to play here? Why does television cover it if it's just 'kids throwing a ball in a hoop?'

My God. How dumb are you?
Lol - who is paying those salaries? You? Me? Or are you describing a gargantuan and diffuse mechanism which renders this entire rant toothless?

All of these statements apply equally to the massive financial infrastructure built around Lil Nas X and Pewdiepie and Doja Cat and Charli D'amelio and thousands of others who literally drive ferraris and live in beverly hills on the back of silly voices and fart jokes.

So following your logic, given the massive financial influxes involved, there is inherently some kind of depth of purpose and meaning to what they produce. It must be approached with the utmost seriousness and THE ANGRIER THE BETTER.

Or, alternately, you are conflating the basic 101 functionality of the free market - which applies to everything from strip clubs to cancer research - with an actual proxy for value and import. If that is the case, then Minecraft, Hello Kitty, and The Twilight series are 3 of the most valuable artistic creations that humanity has ever produced.

And yes, I'm a drooling idiot.
 
And before you rush to get this point wrong: I am not saying that entertainment is therefore not valuable. I think Led Zeppelin has earned every penny with their illustrious output. But I can similarly reduce what they do to "four guys playing instruments", and therefore not stick it in the same category as real life issues.

This ability is handy, because no matter what happens with them, there will never be any Led Zeppelin-related holes in the wall or hypertensive emergencies.
 
Lol - who is paying those salaries? You? Me? Or are you describing a gargantuan and diffuse mechanism which renders this entire rant toothless?

All of these statements apply equally to the massive financial infrastructure built around Lil Nas X and Pewdiepie and Doja Cat and Charli D'amelio and thousands of others who literally drive ferraris and live in beverly hills on the back of silly voices and fart jokes.

So following your logic, given the massive financial influxes involved, there is inherently some kind of depth of purpose and meaning to what they produce. It must be approached with the utmost seriousness and THE ANGRIER THE BETTER.

Or, alternately, you are conflating the basic 101 functionality of the free market - which applies to everything from strip clubs to cancer research - with an actual proxy for value and import. If that is the case, then Minecraft, Hello Kitty, and The Twilight series are 3 of the most valuable artistic creations that humanity has ever produced.

And yes, I'm a drooling idiot.
Thanks for making my point for me. This is a much bigger deal than just some 'kids throwing a ball in a hoop.'

Or are you trying to equate Kentucky Basketball to fart jokes?
 
And before you rush to get this point wrong: I am not saying that entertainment is therefore not valuable. I think Led Zeppelin has earned every penny with their illustrious output. But I can similarly reduce what they do to "four guys playing instruments", and therefore not stick it in the same category as real life issues.

This ability is handy, because no matter what happens with them, there will never be any Led Zeppelin-related holes in the wall or hypertensive emergencies.
And before YOU rush to get THIS point wrong, nobody's going to jail for Cal's malfeasance. No laws were broken.

But...BUT!

Maybe this blind, loyal WORSHIP of the man as the be-all end-all will diminish and people will see him for who and what he really is. People will be better off when they realize he's just a guy, and that he is good at lying.

Maybe we are basically making the same point, which is that this stuff isn't all that important, and maybe people should stop putting Cal on a pedestal and go get a life.

It's unfortunate that his own behavior brings this about, but it's better in the long run for everyone.
 
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I defend cal non stop and don’t care if sharpe plays but y’all are putting a lot of work into these memes like…wow
 
Cal has completely mishandled Sharpe situation
Or, quite possibly he has handled it PERFECTLY?

It depends on your perspective. If it's all about you personally.....sure, he has totally botched it. But if it's about doing the right thing for the kid, then he's knocking it out of the park.

Do I wish he would play? Absolutely. Do I think he will? No I don't. Does Sharpe or Cal owe you or I, as a fan, an explanation? Not even remotely.
 
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