Self Still Talking About Getting 'Real Close' to a National Championship in 2012
- Thread starter Smashcat
- Start date
I don't need to. It was nonsensical and not plausible. So, you think Calipari would win 3 titles at KU when he hasn't done it at Kentucky? Are you a troll? Why do you think Kentucky is not on par with KU? Please explain your previous post.
A
anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y
Guest
Maybe the Phog should have a Missouri lean to it being he was born in Missouri. Or better yet, since Dr. James Naismith was born in Canada, the Jayhawk battle cry should he Rock-CANUCK-Jayhawk.
If you're too stupid to get it, I'm not gonna waste my time. On par with KU? KU is nowhere near UK in terms of anything. cal has been at Kentucky 6 years. You think he's about to retire? He could easily win 3 titles at UK. We might be the favorite again this year. My point is everyone knows cal has an extremely good chance to win it yearly, more so than any other.
kansas fans are jealous of what we have. Always have always will.
Here is one Kentucky fan that believes Self and Cal are equal. Everything but championships is not 'worth a damn thing'. One Championship to One Championship. Thanks for sharing!
I respect this. You wouldn't be a good Kentucky fan if you didn't think that.
It goes beyond where they were born. If Coach Rupp just was just born in Halstead Kansas and didn't go to school and play for the Jayhawks, I would agree with you. But combined, the two men that you mentioned, Dr. Allen and Dr. Naismith coached or taught at Kansas for 82 years. If you look at logically, I don't know if anyone would agree with you.
Lmao.
This post proves my entire point.
How about this, where people "played" doesn't mean jack shit when it comes to "coaching prestige". Rupp is not synonymous with Kansas and only you chicken hawk cast offs believe he is. Outside of Kansas, no one even realizes he played there and they don't care. He's the Baron of the Bluegrass, not Baron of the Bird Cage.
I have seen irishcat1965 posts before. I agree with your view of him. I respectfully think he has a cute wife too.
So you are saying that Kentucky greats like Jack Givens, Sam Bowie, Kenny Walker, Jamal Mashburn, Tayshaun Prince, Rajon Rondo, John Wall, Anthony Davis and many more aren't Wildcats because they only played for Kentucky but didn't coach the Wildcats. I disagree and hope most of your fellow Wildcats disagree with you.
Jayhawks say 'Once a Jayhawk, always a Jayhawk. Coach Rupp is a Jayhawk and will always be.
No. And, neither should Kansas get credit for Coach Rupp's. That would be wrong. But for Purdue to be criticized for acknowledging that Coach Wooden was a Boilermaker is wrong too.
I'd say that champs are by far the most important factor - their value over F4s are much greater conceptually than a 2 game difference, obviously.
But, I think most of us would agree that Final Fours do mean a lot, and that championships aren't everything.
Not many people argue that UCLA > UK anymore, for example, because having a modest lead in championships with the same number of F4s is dwarfed by UK having a lead in basically every other category possible.
And yes, it seems obvious that Cal > Self, though Self will doubtless join Cal in the HOF and is an excellent coach that anybody but Duke, UK, and a couple others would trade for.
Don't agree with you on everything, but thanks for bringing some of that old-school KU basketball talk back to RR. A lot of your buddies have gone off the deep end since we hired Cal - this is much more pleasant.
The fact that Rupp played at Kansas is a footnote in his history. Kind of like the fact that Calipari used to serve spaghetti as a volunteer assistant.
Kansas should be proud that both were involved with their program. But Kansas fans over here make too big a deal about it. Especially the Rupp stuff. It isn't presented as pride or kinship. It's more of a childish "we made you" vibe.
I don't think that Kansas built the Kentucky program. But I I have warm memories of Coach Cal at Kansas Basketball Camps. He was more than just a 'spaghetti server' to me.
Last edited:
I think some of it is reactionary to the comments that some Kentucky fans make saying that Coach Rupp or Coach Cal had/has zero relationship with Kansas.
Don't think you'll find many UK fans claiming that Rupp never played there or Cal never coached there. Do a lot of them come to your board and say that?
![[laughing]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/laugh.r191677.gif "Laughing [laughing]")
Using that same exact approach for each and every game, Cal has won 80% (190-38) of his games at UK, and has coached the team on one of the greatest runs in the history of the program. But, yeah, you're right, Cal's method is incompetent and it is the only reason that UK lost that game.Actually the UK posters that I interact with on the Kansas boards are well-educated and respectful. Saying that it would out of character for them. And, I understand that is there is minority of posters that attack fans from other school just because they are not UK fans. That's okay too. It takes all types. I can only control my behavior, not anyone else.
I never said Cal was incompetent or a bad coach or that it was all his fault that we lost the game. But it is a fact that he made a mistake when he didn't have his players watch game film.
A fact? Says who? More like your opinion. Do you even know what a fact is? Again, using that same exact approach, he has won 190 games and has lost only 38 games. Think about that for a minute. You're talking about one, single, solitary loss. What about the 190 wins? Was it also a mistake then? Or, how bout 2012? Was that approach a mistake when UK was winning the title?
3 championships man. 3. In how many years? I think you guys are tied with UCONN. Or Louisville
No. The mistake would have been to question the way he coaches, scrap part of his preparation and routine, and to do something other than what has been a part of making him and the team as successful as they have been. Sure, if it's not working, then try something different, but that wasn't the case.
Here's a hypothetical for you. What if Cal would have changed things up and had the players watch hours of film but they still lost anyways? Then everyone, including and mostly Cal would have said it was a huge mistake to change things up and do something other than what got them there.
Matter of fact, that's something that would have ate at Cal, the players and the fan base for forever. How many times would we have heard "What was Cal thinking? Everybody knows that if it ain't broke, then don't try to fix it"? It is my opinion that doing it the way that they had always done, the way that got them to to where they were, is the much easier pill to swallow, than switching things up and having the "what if" linger over the whole season.
I'm pretty sure the players have watched game film before, so by not watching any game film, he changed their preperation and what made them successful. Look I'm not saying he's a bad coach or that I want another coach. I pray to God that he's here for the next 15 years and retires. At the same time though he is human and makes some mistakes, most noticeably slowing the game down to early when you have the lead(stall ball) and not watching the game film. I also think that he should have worded the players were relieved that we lost a little bit better. Overall I would give him a grade of A while he's been coaching at Kentucky. He's definitely the GOAT of recruiting and a very good coach, undervalued coaching ability
Last edited:
That is absolutely 100% false. Robic is the one that mainly watches the hours of film on the opponent, then he puts together a 10-20 minute package on their strengths, weaknesses, and the main things they like to do on offense and defense. That package is what is given to the players to watch. That is how it has been from day one since Cal has been at UK, and that's exactly how it was against Wisconsin.
.http://www.cleveland.com/marchmadness/index.ssf/2015/03/everything_kentucky_coach_john_2.html Coach Cal makes it sound like they watch 10 mins of game film at dinner. All I know is that I hope Robic watched game film of Wisconsin before we played them.
Umm... that's exactly what I just said. Did you even read my post? Anyways, thanks for proving my point.
Umm I knew Robic watched game film before you said anything. I'm questioning whether Robic watched the Wisconsin game film, just that game. Because the broadcast made it sound like they didn't at all maybe including Robic. You didn't proove jack
If you are at all serious, you're a moron.
Hopefully you get to see Kansas move ahead of Louisville in titles before the dirt nap.
Does this really need to be explained to you? I mean, really? Robic always scouts the other team and watches game tape. That's one of his main jobs on Cal's staff. Cal never once said that Robic didn't watch film on Wisconsin, nor did any broadcast, so why would you even question that? Cal specifically said that the team didn't watch film on Wisconsin and that is what the broadcast was referring to.
Also, When Cal says that the team didn't watch game film on Wisconsin he means that the team didn't spend 2-3 hours in the film room breaking down Wisconsin game tape. He doesn't mean that the team didn't get their 10-20 highlight package that Robic puts together for them. He has explained what he means by this a dozen times.
Here is what Cal said: But we won’t watch Wisconsin tape as a team. You can watch the tapes you need to do, then get your team ready. That’s what I do. I don’t know if it’s right or wrong, but that’s what we do.
If you rewatch the game, one of the broadcasters says the team didn't watch ANY game film. I think it was the female who was on the floor. She MAY have said KENTUCKY didn't watch ANY game film, which Robic is a part of the Kentucky basketball program.
Well I just showed you exactly what Cal said before the Wisconsin game, and Cal has already explained this during many press conferences when this question comes up. He specifically said that they won't watch the tape as a team (meaning the players), but that they (meaning the coaches) will watch the tapes they need to get the team (meaning the players) ready. It's there for you to see as plain as day. It's really not that hard to comprehend.
As always, the team, as in the players do not watch any game film. All they watch is a 10-20 highlight package that is put together by Robic, after he breaks down the game film.This is exactly what they did against Wisconsin, same as they always do. All I can tell you is that she misinterpreted Cal, and had no clue what she was talking about
I was just quoting you. You said just because Coach Rupp only played for the Jayhawks that doesn't make him a Jayhawk. I disagreed with you. We have exchanged posts before on other thread. You have been critical of my statements that Coach Rupp and Coach Calipari were part of Kansas basketball history. I was not then, or am not now, trying to minimize their impact on Kentucky basketball history.
You had said that not many people knew that Rupp was a Jayhawk. Maybe many UK fans didn't know that, I will take your word on that. But, that doesn't change the fact that he was a Jayhawk.
@DwayneMeighan
No offense, but you're being trolled. He's arguing with you just for the sake of arguing with you. He knows damn well that the staff (specifically Robic) watched the film.
Notice in his very first post that I quoted, he says "Maybe Cal will actually have his players watch game film before the final four game and championship game this year." No mention of the staff.
And then in his second post to me he says "But it is a fact that he made a mistake when he didn't have his players watch game film." Again, no mention of the staff.
Once he was shown how ridiculous he sounded, he did what all trolls do and completely changed his argument to fit his agenda. He has no other purpose here but to bash Cal by any means necessary.
No offense, but you're being trolled. He's arguing with you just for the sake of arguing with you. He knows damn well that the staff (specifically Robic) watched the film.
Notice in his very first post that I quoted, he says "Maybe Cal will actually have his players watch game film before the final four game and championship game this year." No mention of the staff.
And then in his second post to me he says "But it is a fact that he made a mistake when he didn't have his players watch game film." Again, no mention of the staff.
Once he was shown how ridiculous he sounded, he did what all trolls do and completely changed his argument to fit his agenda. He has no other purpose here but to bash Cal by any means necessary.
Similar threads
Latest posts
-
-
-
Auburn is only the 6th #1 team to come to Rupp- Latest: BlueWorldOrder74
