That 1 and 1 wasn't a free throw by briscoe, that was a timely demonic possession. ![[roll]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/roll.r191677.gif "roll [roll]")
#SECofficiating
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No we are not. Cheating is cheating. Tony Greene is a POS.
Huge difference between "dare officials to call fouls" fans trying to whine about getting called for that style of play and what happened last night.
There were a few calls last night that have no other explanation than the officials had an agenda.
I bet Deli Owl also thinks that abused women should also shut up and keep quiet and also hate crime victims. Better yet, if you have ever been wronged....... Deli Owl thinks your'e an idiot for letting it happen to you.
There were a few calls last night that have no other explanation than the officials had an agenda.
I bet Deli Owl also thinks that abused women should also shut up and keep quiet and also hate crime victims. Better yet, if you have ever been wronged....... Deli Owl thinks your'e an idiot for letting it happen to you.
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why do shows and greene call ALL our games? forget that they suck. wth is up with this crap? they give fast technicals. we have maybe the best coach in the country. it's totally conflicting. they actually make the games less entertaining.
Has happened to every big since Cal has been here. Every single one has to play through crazy amounts of contact, and then tip-toe on the other end of the floor. I honestly think it's the Lebron effect, almost a way to neutralize physical specimens who would otherwise just dominate games. 90% of college teams can't legitimately stop guys like AD, Cousins, Randle and KAT. But you can stop it by letting teams practically pile-on Randle under the hoop.
This used to infuriate me. I'm just used to it now, and if anything it makes these guys better for it. That's why almost all of our bigs are killing it in the NBA.
"Wait, you mean in this league the entire starting 5 can't just throw their bodies at me? Yeah, I think I'm gonna be fine in the NBA"
I totally get the mentality that we can't do anything about the refs, so just play the game.
I also get that crooked refs love that mentality.
Since I'm an observer, not a participant, I guess it will be fine if I point out corrupt/incompetent officiating.
I also get that crooked refs love that mentality.
Since I'm an observer, not a participant, I guess it will be fine if I point out corrupt/incompetent officiating.
The technical fouls made UK look bad. Like Sharks v. Jets. The MSU guy baited UK and they rose to it. Or fell to it. The UKes aren't intimidating this year. The opposite, in fact. In Skal's altercation at the Alabama game the big Alabama guy who was involved was almost in stitches. From laughter.
I'd like this X10 if I could. My feelings exactly.
Last night it was Greene and Ayers, 3rd time we've gotten that pair this year.
I don't think Tony Greene hates us. I actually don't mind seeing Greene out there if we are favored by 3-4. When we are a double digit favorite, he has much more room to operate. Allegedly.
Ayers seems biased. He's among the worst.
I also like to preface my officiating comments every so often, by mentioning the fact that with my other teams (Jets and Rockets) I never see any issues in officiating. Sometimes a bad game, sometimes a good game, but it always seems to even out.
I can't remember the last time a Jets or Rockets game got me fired up about officiating... years probably.
So it's not like I lose my mind thinking all my teams get hosed. No, when it comes to officiating, I like to take note of when my own teams get the benefit, and vice versa. IMO, I'm pretty level headed with my teams. But Kentucky is just a totally different scenario.
I can't remember the last time a Jets or Rockets game got me fired up about officiating... years probably.
So it's not like I lose my mind thinking all my teams get hosed. No, when it comes to officiating, I like to take note of when my own teams get the benefit, and vice versa. IMO, I'm pretty level headed with my teams. But Kentucky is just a totally different scenario.
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maybe i'm getting the names mixed up for the actual worst now. i know adams has made quite an impression, before that it greene. i guess ayers has overtaken shows. i haven't followed ayers. i just know that shows or greene or both seem to call all our sec games. anyway it feels that way.
It's also made so much more incredible is the fact that we keep on winning all these basketball games regardless of what these officials have always done to us !
I say : "Let's just go ahead and beat the other team and the ref's TOO !"
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I say : "Let's just go ahead and beat the other team and the ref's TOO !"
at rupp when they take things to a boiling point we usually are the victors either way yes. at rupp a lot of greene's calls actually get the crowd involved i've noticed.It's also made so much more incredible is the fact that we keep on winning all these basketball games regardless of what these officials have always done to us !
I say : "Let's just go ahead and beat the other team and the ref's TOO !"
is this the officiating we will get when NOT CAL takes over the program as coach? If so I cringe at how a normal talent level will deal with it.
I think Cal is a big reason, unfortunately. Part of it is that so many in the league, NCAA, and media hate him, part that he IS putting NBA talent on the floor every night, and part that he doesn't point fingers at the other team and berate the officials (ahem, Coach K) when there's a foul*.
If we had that beautiful man-child Brad Stevens, "doing things the right way", utilizing Blue Collar players, we'd probably be fine. Or maybe Cal should just berate the officials more, like K does. Definitely works.
* I never understand why his attitude DOESN'T give him a better rapport with the officials. He almost never blames the refs, and immediately scolds the his player. Meanwhile Coach K and others go off on the officials weekly, and they take it. Coach K is the equivalent of that 1st grade parent who blames everyone else when their kid bites someone. Cal hold his kids accountable. How do teachers (refs) not side with a parent like that?**
** The Officials are like that ex-girlfriend who just wants to be punished and told they are being bad. They eat that up apparently. Some BDSM stuff going on.***
*** My analogies are weird, just go with it.
If we had that beautiful man-child Brad Stevens, "doing things the right way", utilizing Blue Collar players, we'd probably be fine. Or maybe Cal should just berate the officials more, like K does. Definitely works.
* I never understand why his attitude DOESN'T give him a better rapport with the officials. He almost never blames the refs, and immediately scolds the his player. Meanwhile Coach K and others go off on the officials weekly, and they take it. Coach K is the equivalent of that 1st grade parent who blames everyone else when their kid bites someone. Cal hold his kids accountable. How do teachers (refs) not side with a parent like that?**
** The Officials are like that ex-girlfriend who just wants to be punished and told they are being bad. They eat that up apparently. Some BDSM stuff going on.***
*** My analogies are weird, just go with it.
Green officiated the Duke game - and did really well
I agree, Ayers is the one who seems to have an agenda
Good analogy in my opinion. The problem is K has the whole ESPN network backing him. Cal just has us.
I agree. Greene I can tolerate to some degree. Ayeres legitimately dislikes us.
I thought briscoe and ulis if anyone deserved a tech, not really seeing the murray involvement... He did jump in the middle but it looked to me like briscoe was extending his arm as he turned away and pushed the guy.
Also, when we got up big they started calling a foul EVERY time Miss St drove to the basket. Defender could be sliding w arms up and the Miss St player would initiate and throw up a garbage shot and theyd call it. Happened at least 3-4 times during their run.
Also, when we got up big they started calling a foul EVERY time Miss St drove to the basket. Defender could be sliding w arms up and the Miss St player would initiate and throw up a garbage shot and theyd call it. Happened at least 3-4 times during their run.
I think Greene has an agenda too, I just think it has more to do with the point spread. Sometimes it works in our favor. I don't think it's personal.
Beat everyone by 20 and no one will care about the calls.
I thinks that's part of it. Hammer enough opponents and the spreads increase enough that even when they're manipulated it's hard to hurt you.
We were hammering MSU by 20 then the calls started.
So Owl, Do you tell cancer patients they should of had better genes?
Didn't know the game was actually play completely perfect or lose and be a pile of trash
Didn't know the game was actually play completely perfect or lose and be a pile of trash
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Doug Shows is a UK Hater too,I'll bet he officiates the UK vs Florida games,he is a known Florida Lover and always is on the officiating crew when we play them.
Pat Adams is terrible and almost as blind as Karl Hess,both suck
Tony Greene seems to have mellowed out in his Calipari hate,but as others have said looks like he manipulates the spread.
I'm trying to look up others,I know Derosa is one,
Pat Adams is terrible and almost as blind as Karl Hess,both suck
Tony Greene seems to have mellowed out in his Calipari hate,but as others have said looks like he manipulates the spread.
I'm trying to look up others,I know Derosa is one,
Murray actually didn't do anything this time. Briscoe was the one pushing. While Ready and Tyler bumped into each other, it didn't look intentional but Tyler took it that way and pushed him first. IMO Ulis started it and was in the wrong on this one. He almost always keeps a cool head but didn't on that one.
It is hard to believe that officials get a free pass on the games they call. There has been one official that was proven to be corrupt and no other official was exposed. Of all the officials there is only one bad one. If there is one there are others, someone higher up needs to understand this and check into it.
The problem I have is the way they can do a bad job and it is okay. No questions asked and they don't have to explain the bad calls or the no calls. Wouldn't it be nice if we all could mess up in our jobs and it was okay and no questions were ever asked? They know that whatever they call wrong or right nothing will be said. The game should be reviewed and when a bad call is made, some of their pay should be deducted.
The problem I have is the way they can do a bad job and it is okay. No questions asked and they don't have to explain the bad calls or the no calls. Wouldn't it be nice if we all could mess up in our jobs and it was okay and no questions were ever asked? They know that whatever they call wrong or right nothing will be said. The game should be reviewed and when a bad call is made, some of their pay should be deducted.
Hmmmmm don't forget the Pac 12 Head of officiating getting fired for that whole officiating scandal
There has to be corrupt ones, they couldn't be that bad without a reason.
Here's a list of officials doing Kentucky's SEC Games this year :
Tony Greene = Ole Miss and Miss St games
Pat Adams = LSU game
Roger Ayers = Miss State game
Doug Shows = LSU game
Joe DeRosa = LSU game
Ron Groover = Miss State game
Byron Jarrett = Ole Miss game
Terry Moore = Ole Miss game
Olandis Poole = Alabama game
Lamar Simpson = Alabama game
Glenn Tuitt = Alabama game
Refs who worked UK's Losses this season
UCLA = Verne Harris,Randy McCall,and David Hall
Ohio State = Tony Greene,Roger Ayers,and Terry Wymer
LSU = Doug Shows,Pat Adams,and Joe DeRosa
Refs who worked UK games that were close wins
Louisville = Doug Shows,Pat Adams,and Michael Roberts 75-73
Miss State = Tony Greene,Roger Ayers,and Ron Groover 80-74
Tony Greene = Ole Miss and Miss St games
Pat Adams = LSU game
Roger Ayers = Miss State game
Doug Shows = LSU game
Joe DeRosa = LSU game
Ron Groover = Miss State game
Byron Jarrett = Ole Miss game
Terry Moore = Ole Miss game
Olandis Poole = Alabama game
Lamar Simpson = Alabama game
Glenn Tuitt = Alabama game
Refs who worked UK's Losses this season
UCLA = Verne Harris,Randy McCall,and David Hall
Ohio State = Tony Greene,Roger Ayers,and Terry Wymer
LSU = Doug Shows,Pat Adams,and Joe DeRosa
Refs who worked UK games that were close wins
Louisville = Doug Shows,Pat Adams,and Michael Roberts 75-73
Miss State = Tony Greene,Roger Ayers,and Ron Groover 80-74
Man, you need to go back and look again if what you state above is your honest opinion.
Ready initiated the contact and when Tyler reacted he raised his arm into Tyler and then the shoving began.
Wish they would rotate the referees between conferences. I am tired of watching the same crew game after game. It does appear that some have agendas and dislikes for either Coach Cal or Kentucky.
I didn't quote you. Don't know why you felt the need to reply like I was talking to you.
When I say "We" I'm talking about the BBN because there are a lot of people within the bbn that can't spell Ulis' name correctly. It's annoying and kinda disrespectful to Tyler honestly. Tyler probably doesn't read this board but so what, spell his dam name right.
Tasteless comment. Please delete. You seriously compared having cancer to foul calls in a basketball game? Delete this crap.
im not going to delete a post because some one can't see past the word cancer to get to the actual point of the comment
if you can't see that I was using his mind set and ramping it up to extremes......
Things beyond our control happen and to act like we are supposed to control everything around us like owl is suggesting it absolutely crazy. Which is why I took his mind set and went crazy with it
if you can't see that I was using his mind set and ramping it up to extremes......
Things beyond our control happen and to act like we are supposed to control everything around us like owl is suggesting it absolutely crazy. Which is why I took his mind set and went crazy with it
Not to mention, you literally have different styles of basketball being played between each conference because of this.
ISU the other night, on the road, had a total of 12 fouls in an OT game (45 minutes). Not sure how they spread out, but it's possible that Texas never shot a single bonus FT.
Meanwhile, 600 miles Southeast, you can't have an SEC game where a team isn't in the bonus by mid-way into the half.
I lost my father to lung cancer last year at the age of 59 years old.
had someone literally tell me it was his fault because he smoked his whole life. and yes I'm saying it's the same kind of a hole response as someone saying don't complain, just win by 20 no matter what. Because it comes from the same emotion and gets the same F U emotion right back
had someone literally tell me it was his fault because he smoked his whole life. and yes I'm saying it's the same kind of a hole response as someone saying don't complain, just win by 20 no matter what. Because it comes from the same emotion and gets the same F U emotion right back
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