Rumor from UT
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No, the worship of money is the root of all evil.
There were also discussions about unpaid upperclassmen who might be jealous of the wealthy newcomers.
Texas A&M might be the first example of a team where, consciously or sub-consciously, unpaid or poorly paid upper class men did not give it “their all,” while watching Frosh drive nicer rides.
You could very well be right, but he has a long history of bad decisions going back to HS. I don't know if there was an incident in the locker room or not, but going by past history it's not out of the question.
They can but it doesnt stop it from ruining COLLEGE football
Doubt if we ever find out, Knoxville media will have this story successfully buried by Wed.
Dead on, about half their team are trouble because they will take anyone regardless of character flaws they think will help them win a game.
Have to wonder how much of this has played into Texas A&M's demise this season.
I would imagine a lot if all the skilled players are getting paid handsomely and the guys who protect them are not.
Is there a possible future where all money goes into a pool and distributed equally? At least equal amongst starters with backups and future players getting a smaller portion?
Kind of funny if this turns on programs dropping hard cash for players like QBs and WR and the guys doing the dirty work watching them drive around in nice cars with new cell phones while they get a few gifts from them making signficantly less than the stars.
I would be upset.
Kind of funny if this turns on programs dropping hard cash for players like QBs and WR and the guys doing the dirty work watching them drive around in nice cars with new cell phones while they get a few gifts from them making signficantly less than the stars.
I would be upset.
Never thought this NIL feeding frenzy would work out in the long run. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Just look at Major League Baseball. In the end college athletics has changed forever and the change will prove to be very damaging.
Well if you want to increase your NIL money, laying down on defense should really help your cause😜🤔🥴🥱
A cabbage has more sense if that’s the case. I was there, they were hitting hard…they were simply hit by a blitzkrieg that night but whatever makes them feel better.
I would say Banks and the entire Defense laying down over their jealousy of someone else lining their pockets would classify as a love of money. Getting your bag is all the kids care about today…it’s glorified and pushed in every level of society today.
I’m a bit old school…a 250,000 education, free lodging, free food, free healthcare, free tutoring, free travel on chartered planes, free coaching to develop you for the next level, Being treated like a rock star on campus still sounds like a pretty good living for a 18-23 year old. 🤷🏼♂️
After paying to put my two kids through college I agree. Guess I should’ve had them takeout student loans. The whole world is upside down.
Before I make a point about this-
1) I'm not against players getting paid at this level.
2) I think they should at the very least be insured against future losses due to injury at a standard rate of pay being = at least to the NFL league minimum.
3) I think players should be paid for use of their image and likeness for anything promotional or special interest. News excluded as it has always been.
However, the use of NIL to sign players to specific teams is not NIL. It is pay for play. If you condition their pay upon which school they play for or based on it being a school contracted with certain providers, it is not NIL. It's NIL if they negotiate (for use of their NIL) and are paid after they sign with a program.
The fact that the ncaa has not defended their own rulings on NIL makes them less an association of members and more of a monopoly. As an organization, they are not only not representing everyone in their organization, but no one in their organization is allowed to comment upon or question their decisions, nor are they able to compete apart from the organization against anyone within the organization.
It's a monopoly and has been that does not respect or represent each of its members equally.
At the current cost of education, athletes are making well over 25k per year in tuition and fees, room and board, travel and equipment costs, promotional, medical, and training services. I'm guessing it's gotta be close to 50k per year, but I'm just spitballing. That's anywhere from 150-250k in earnings from 3-5 years of playing time. It's much higher if athletes are earning their masters degrees before leaving (and I didn't factor summer classes in this at all).
That's being paid by any other measure. If we went to work for a company and were paid over 50k in employer funded perks expenditures, we would likely be taxed on much or all of it as income. The only thing that prevented that on this level was the "amateur" status of the players. NIL fractures that, as the value of a player's NIL to a sponsor in nearly every case is based on their reputation and performance in the sport in which they participate.
There is no true separation between their status/rep as an athlete and their NIL for most athletes. IOW with NIL based on the sport in which they participate they are professional athletes once they are paid for the NIL rights. ALL of their earnings, including everything covered by their scholarships and other paid expenses are subject to possible taxation.
This won't be decided by the ncaa but by the irs and the courts eventually. The ncaa isn't saying more about it right now because their tenders are in a vice right now. They're just waiting for the other shoe to drop and hoping they have more time before it happens, imo.
There is NO question, however, that a player signing an NIL deal to go to a certain school and getting paid before enrollment and taking classes is INELIGIBLE by ncaa guidelines, and the universities that suit them up on game day are subject to forfeiture of such games and other penalties. It'll be interesting to watch what happens
1) I'm not against players getting paid at this level.
2) I think they should at the very least be insured against future losses due to injury at a standard rate of pay being = at least to the NFL league minimum.
3) I think players should be paid for use of their image and likeness for anything promotional or special interest. News excluded as it has always been.
However, the use of NIL to sign players to specific teams is not NIL. It is pay for play. If you condition their pay upon which school they play for or based on it being a school contracted with certain providers, it is not NIL. It's NIL if they negotiate (for use of their NIL) and are paid after they sign with a program.
The fact that the ncaa has not defended their own rulings on NIL makes them less an association of members and more of a monopoly. As an organization, they are not only not representing everyone in their organization, but no one in their organization is allowed to comment upon or question their decisions, nor are they able to compete apart from the organization against anyone within the organization.
It's a monopoly and has been that does not respect or represent each of its members equally.
At the current cost of education, athletes are making well over 25k per year in tuition and fees, room and board, travel and equipment costs, promotional, medical, and training services. I'm guessing it's gotta be close to 50k per year, but I'm just spitballing. That's anywhere from 150-250k in earnings from 3-5 years of playing time. It's much higher if athletes are earning their masters degrees before leaving (and I didn't factor summer classes in this at all).
That's being paid by any other measure. If we went to work for a company and were paid over 50k in employer funded perks expenditures, we would likely be taxed on much or all of it as income. The only thing that prevented that on this level was the "amateur" status of the players. NIL fractures that, as the value of a player's NIL to a sponsor in nearly every case is based on their reputation and performance in the sport in which they participate.
There is no true separation between their status/rep as an athlete and their NIL for most athletes. IOW with NIL based on the sport in which they participate they are professional athletes once they are paid for the NIL rights. ALL of their earnings, including everything covered by their scholarships and other paid expenses are subject to possible taxation.
This won't be decided by the ncaa but by the irs and the courts eventually. The ncaa isn't saying more about it right now because their tenders are in a vice right now. They're just waiting for the other shoe to drop and hoping they have more time before it happens, imo.
There is NO question, however, that a player signing an NIL deal to go to a certain school and getting paid before enrollment and taking classes is INELIGIBLE by ncaa guidelines, and the universities that suit them up on game day are subject to forfeiture of such games and other penalties. It'll be interesting to watch what happens
Here is the problem with that. You think Tennessee will send Hooker packing because he went out and got a legal NIL deal?? The Schools are a part of this as well. They could tell payers to pack up and leave but they won’t. All schools would have to follow the same rules as it relates to NIL. Schools Cheat. That makes other schools cheat to stay competitive. Texas A&M opened this cheating. Now others have followed suit.
That's a terrible argument. That logic would lead to the end of Law.
Government should not be telling private business what their rules must be.
Government should not be telling private citizens what their rules must be.
You're creating The Purge, but 24/7.
The only thing the SCOTUS ruling did was tell schools they must let student athletes do what every other scholarship student (and American) can do inherently, make money off their own image.
That's a huge dramatization of what I said. We are not talking about criminal offenses. We are talking about rules to qualify to participate in a league.
I don't think the concern about cheating was the driving force behind the SCOTUS decision on NIL.
And if player don’t react then I don’t blame them. Nfl Qb makes most money but tackles are worth more than a RB. So in this warped nil world. If a RB is getting paid and I’m an Oline not getting any…I’m leaving for a school that pays more to OL
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