Nah. He absolutely prioritizes getting guys drafted over winning, and justifies it to himself by saying if he develops the players and they are high draft picks winning will come along with it. It's not PR talk. His actions prove it to be fact.
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No, I certainly believe they do. I am saying, no coach has done less with more, than Cal... and the AD/MKG won in spite of Cal's poor coaching.
And what about UK vs WVU in all those other matchups? You just conveniently ignore those?
What about UK vs UNC earlier that exact same season? Ignore that one too?
What about UK vs MSU in 2019?
Hell, I would argue Cal's coaching job last night was better than Self's. Sure, Kansas won - but Cal did more with less than Self did, no matter what the outcome is.
2018 vs UNC
2019 vs Houston
2022 vs Kansas AT Kansas
2019 vs Texas Tech AT Texas Tech
I mean it is what it is. You can try to argue it your way, and I can argue it mine. But at the end of the day, he outcoaches other "better" coaches or "more successful" coaches or "next big thing" coaches too.
"The man will never win another title here." Obviously a wild accusation that can't be backed up
Arguing that he's declining, while still having success, is like the same bitching and moaning some fans are doing with Stoops. When you have historic success, at some point you'll revert to the mean. Name one program that has consistently been on an upwards trajectory since Cal has been at UK. Name one WITHOUT any NCAA recent sanctions....
Cal's record against "top" coaches. If he can't coach, who can? He's not perfect at all and this season better be top notch, but the continued "Cal can't coach" stuff is just silly.
Self: 5-5
K: 1-3
Williams: 6-4
Pitino: 9-2
Oats: 4-3
Pearl: 12-7
Izzo: 2-2
Self: 5-5
K: 1-3
Williams: 6-4
Pitino: 9-2
Oats: 4-3
Pearl: 12-7
Izzo: 2-2
STOP IT WITH FACTS!! STOP IT WITH DATA! WE DONT WANT TO LOOK AT FACTS AND DATA! JUST LET THESE PEOPLE COMPLAIN WITH NO REAL DATA TO BACK UP THEIR CLAIMS!!!!!
In all seriousness, JFCats22 thanks for attempting to be a voice of reason here.
Exactly...plus, this pile of blubber is also a member, so it ain't that exclusive...
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Cal outcoached Self 'at times' last night. But when the chips were down Cal's flaws cost us the game. His inability to keep our most effective players in the game because he needed his golden boys to get their minutes was our downfall. And that is what will always keep Cal from winning another big one here.
And I stand by my prediction that Cal will never win another one here. If he does then I'll eat crow even to the point of giving up my account. But I have no reason to believe that's ever going to happen.
In all seriousness, who are you talking about? Rob got taken out because under 4 mins left he had a terrible turnover, 2 bad defensive lapses, and a shot that was as good as a turnover.
I don't fault Reed for taking a 3-pt desperation attempt with 7 secs left, but at the same time, there's NO NEED to take a 3-pt desperation attempt with 7 secs still left on the clock.
If you're arguing that Reed should've been in instead of Rob, I see what you're saying because he's more reliable, but also Rob was the hot hand for most of the game.
If you're saying both Rob and Reed should've been in, they both had costly turnovers late AND both took ill-advised shots late.
He told us in 2010. We didn’t listen. Draft day is most important day for UK basketball. When your AD gives you a life time contract you tell the fans to get lost and you do what you want.
I'm saying Reed and Rob both should have had more than 16 mins a piece. And they definitely shouldn't have been taken out when they were hot. Self showed some flexibility in leaving Harris in the game in foul trouble, but Cal is too rigid.
This disappoints me.
My crusade to save Kentucky basketball and bring a realistic perspective to the sunshine pumping population will be much more difficult without you my friend.
What's Cal's record against ranked teams in the last 8 years?
I agree, the 2 foul "must sit" rule needs flexibility. I understand why he does it, but especially with players off the bench, I don't agree with it. They needed more than 16 mins each
But you said wrong players in the game at the end, so thats what I'm asking about???
So you want answers to YOUR questions, but you refuse to answer mine in the other thread.
Sounds a bit...unbalanced.
I'll get back to you when you get back to me.
That is so full of crap. Just curious, do you guys wear tinfoil hats when you come up with this blithering nonsense? You do realize the people holding his contract know this is complete BS, right? If it wasn’t so embarrassing to the KY fanbase, it would be hysterical.
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I haven't dodged a single question that has any ounce of merit or relevance to it. But you, on the other hand, just keep checking in absentee. It's ok, I'm patiently awaiting your next total dodge of a response
Ahhh yes, the 100% guaranteed response when you know you don't have a real argument to make....turning into the grammar police.
Poster 1: Posts something of relevance, intelligent argument
Poster 2: YOU MISSPELLED SOMETHING! HA!
Poster 1: You didn't even try to respond to the argument/point of the post
Poster 2: HAHA YOU MISSPELLED SOMETHING! LOSER!
Like I said, you would undoubtedly dodge a response in your next post. Go back to checking 4th grade level grammar, better suited for your intelligent response rate
Then you have bozos like Matt jones on air every single day saying what Cal needs to do and what we should’ve done differently. This program is a wreck smh
If he's not going to shove him in just to win a game. Then I've got a question for the dumbass. What made you recruit him?
He also benefitted by the NBA lockout. Jones and Lamb might have not come back if not for that happening.
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