Refs for Game Today

[Blueaz]

The second T came as Cal approached him at the scorers table. THEN Cal. went all UL strength coach.
I think he must have said like .., hey if you are going to give me a T for that, you may as well toss me now. And that SOB did; then Cal went spider monkey

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Doug Sirmons was given the UK @ USC jr game for a reason. Doesnt take a genius to figure out Cal would be incredibly irate at how awful Sirmons was to UK in the Kansas game.

 

[Blueaz]

It appeared that way to me, from his actions on the side lines. He said something to the ref and received 1st tech and then had to be restrained while hollering at ref. You just don't do that and not get a tech.

He was sure upset over something.

Sorry. Forgot to quote you back. Rewatch. Cal went ape AFTER the 2nd T.

 

[Katwatcher]

I would ask Sirmons why he sprinted all the way from the other side of the court when he wasn't involved in the first place.

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All the officials are involved in every game. After seeing the action across the floor I imagine he thought he might be needed. After all he is in charge of the floor. He can't say " thats not my job."

 

[Blueaz]

All the officials are involved in every game. After seeing the action across the floor I imagine he thought he might be needed. After all he is in charge of the floor. He can't say " thats not my job."

Hmmmm. Are you a high school ref or something? There seems to be almost an apologist ring to your posts; as they continue.
That's ok. You did clarify from " no doubt" to "opinion"

 

[Katwatcher]

Doug Sirmons was given the UK @ USC jr game for a reason. Doesnt take a genius to figure out Cal would be incredibly irate at how awful Sirmons was to UK in the Kansas game.

How does one know Sirmons was given the game for a reason. Evidently the league official who assigns the games doesn't agree with you.

 

[Katwatcher]

Hmmmm. Are you a high school ref or something? There seems to be almost an apologist ring to your posts; as they continue.
That's ok. You did clarify from " no doubt" to "opinion"

I have officiated high school games, but that was sometime ago. I guess I do tend to be a little bias. I think anyone who has been there and done that has a little better feel of what the refs go through. Its a tough job and not for everyone.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

How does one know Sirmons was given the game for a reason. Evidently the league official who assigns the games doesn't agree with you.

Shouldn't you be waiting for us to lose again before you troll the board?

 

[ulismyman]

Officials have gotten all too full of themselves...Adamant calls, blowing the whistle 4 times as if to say hey look at me i am about to make this call...totally uncalled for. REFS think the crowd may be there to see them...something needs to be done about that

 

[The_Answer1313]

I don't think they should have to be available for press conferences.

They should however be subjected to an internal review. Games should be watched and graded.

Refs that consistently do poorly should be dealt with accordingly.

 

[The_Answer1313]

Honestly........we don't know what was said.........maybe Cal deserved that 2nd T.

Just because it was at the beginning of the game shouldn't mean anything. We want consistency right?

 

[Blueaz]

I have officiated high school games, but that was sometime ago. I guess I do tend to be a little bias. I think anyone who has been there and done that has a little better feel of what the refs go through. Its a tough job and not for everyone.

My dad reffed for years. He goes nuts on the officials now. Especially, the traveling (inconsistent) and no palming calls. .

 

[Noxium]

I would ask Sirmons why he sprinted all the way from the other side of the court when he wasn't involved in the first place.

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Looks like he just stole some lady's purse.

 

[kitkoodle]

at least make a report on such calls, and let the schools decide on releasing the info or not

 

[Katwatcher]

One? Maybe.

But trying to get 2 to get thrown outta the game? I highly doubt Cal was trying to do that.

You could be right, but I have seen coaches do this to fire up their team. I think he wanted to get them going early and it did. lol

 

[The_Answer1313]

I wonder if they do conduct any reviews of games.

 

[Katwatcher]

My dad reffed for years. He goes nuts on the officials now. Especially, the traveling (inconsistent) and no palming calls. .

I agree that a lot of that goes on, but as long as humans are involved they will miss some calls. the majority of calls are judgement calls and you know what that means. I do think the league should stress the inconsistency a little more and develop a better grading system.

Most fans like to see a game where the officials let them play, but sometimes a game will get out of hand and they have to call it tighter then at start of game. That is why it seems to be inconsistent, but necessary in my opinion.

 

[kybassfan]

Officials need to have press conference...you dont just throw out a coach and call 4 techs then just take a shower and go home. No accountability

Is this the sixth or seventh you posted this nonsense? You have video evidence of a missed call, send it to the conference office. Otherwise you are just a whiney fan. Officials are not going to answer to whiney fans.

This will NEVER happen.

 

[Blueaz]

I agree that a lot of that goes on, but as long as humans are involved they will miss some calls. the majority of calls are judgement calls and you know what that means. I do think the league should stress the inconsistency a little more and develop a better grading system.

Most fans like to see a game where the officials let them play, but sometimes a game will get out of hand and they have to call it tighter then at start of game. That is why it seems to be inconsistent, but necessary in my opinion.

All I want is for them to call it the same for each team.
This is the problem for UK, most years. We get labeled a fouling team and getting all the whistles, against our "warm-up" teams; then the refs have to make sure we are dealt with correctly.

 

[RipThru]

Someone posted on my timeline that they were sitting close enough to hear the first exchange. Cal said something to the effect of "you can't do this to us all night again" and Sirmons tagged him. Then Cal went off. Lol

 

[kybassfan]

My dad reffed for years. He goes nuts on the officials now. Especially, the traveling (inconsistent) and no palming calls. .

I bet it does drive him crazy. Most abused rules in the game.

 

[MakinMusic]

Referees don't discuss what coaches say to get technicals. Coaches can say what they said or did. Accountability doesn't come with a press conference. Possibly a review board or something but that's simply taking it too far. While we complain ad-nauseum about ref calls, the truth is it makes the game more interesting. There will never be consistency among the referees as a whole. What would be nice is consistency within the single game; same calls on both ends.

 

[willievic]

With gambling so prevalent in sports, you have to wonder if some refs officiate a game based on the spread. A good example would be if a good friend was at your house having a beer with you and while talking asked,"Who do you think is going to win tomorrow, Team A or Team B.
You say, (your going to be one of the refs), "Oh, probably Team A."
Your friend says, "I hope not, I bet 5 Grand on Team B. Team A is favored by 9 points (minus 9)."
I don't care who you are, most refs would think of that during the game. You don't want to see your friend lose 5 Grand. You may not cause Team A to lose, but I have no doubt, some refs would try and make sure Team A does not cover.
I know some on here will say, "Oh, that never happens." I'm convinced it happens much more then we think. There is to much money bet on sports for it not to happen. We have seen it happen in the last few years in the NBA, and I'm convinced it happens in the college game.
Several years ago in the ECAC Tournament in New YORK, I watched a ref call almost all the fouls that were called on UK. I believe we were playing Manhattan. We won, but it was as if the ref was going to make sure we didn't cover.
I know some on here will say that's not true, but at my age, I have seen a lot of strange calls.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

 

[UKGrad93]

Let each team submit 3 questions per game for the officials to addres. In some games, there will be zero questions. In others there will be up to six. Not necessarily a press conference, but a forum that allows interested parties to gain information. Schools could release the transcripts or a video could be posted to the Internet. Similar to the nfl challenge flag, only after the game, and no decision is overturned.

 

[KWilt43atbuzz]

We live in a fallen world...not much you can do about it either way.

 

[bigbluelou]

It's probably extremely rare but I'd bet (no pun intended) it does happen. Maybe not the way you've laid it out, but likely one way or another.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Is this the sixth or seventh you posted this nonsense? You have video evidence of a missed call, send it to the conference office. Otherwise you are just a whiney fan. Officials are not going to answer to whiney fans.

This will NEVER happen.

If you have a problem with the thread then move on. I'm tired of seeing you try to belittle posters you don't like so sit down and stfu.

As for the OP, I don't think it will ever happen but something needs to change. College basketball officiating is worse than any other major sport IMO. I've reffed for years and its a lot harder than people think but there's no excuse for a lot of the things we watch nearly every game.

 

[kybassfan]

If you have a problem with the thread then move on. I'm tired of seeing you try to belittle posters you don't like so sit down and stfu.

As for the OP, I don't think it will ever happen but something needs to change. College basketball officiating is worse than any other major sport IMO. I've reffed for years and its a lot harder than people think but there's no excuse for a lot of the things we watch nearly every game.

I could never figure out which one of you was Zip, or are you zip and cut-nets the same guy. Heard your Kard board was falling on rough times, Cal Hater.

 

[CATLUV4EVA]

Is this the sixth or seventh you posted this nonsense? You have video evidence of a missed call, send it to the conference office. Otherwise you are just a whiney fan. Officials are not going to answer to whiney fans.

This will NEVER happen.

Leave the dude alone. If you don't like his posts, click ignore. You do realize you are whining about someone "whining" right? Its a freaking message board and if someone wants to post something, who made you the message board police. I see crap I hate on here daily, heck, hourly. I also see people do crap in my everyday life I hate. Its a free country.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

I think Zay might just be like Petjurino... a novelty account.

 

[Katwatcher]

If you have a problem with the thread then move on. I'm tired of seeing you try to belittle posters you don't like so sit down and stfu.

As for the OP, I don't think it will ever happen but something needs to change. College basketball officiating is worse than any other major sport IMO. I've reffed for years and its a lot harder than people think but there's no excuse for a lot of the things we watch nearly every game.

I don't think its any worse than its ever been, but i do believe its much harder to call than other sports.
The players are bigger, the game is played much faster, fans have the replay screen to get a second look, coaches stress rougher play, more moving screens and of course fans see what they want to see, not all but a lot.

All of these changes have made it much harder to call. The only change for the refs has been the addition of the third referee and sometimes that creates another problem of whose call it is which creates hesitancy,

In my opinion the inconsistency from start to finish is the main problem, however there are reasons for that. I think most will agree that they would like to see the refs let them play without a whistle every time down the floor, but if games gets a little too rough the refs have to make changes to keep it from getting out of hand. That is when the inconsistency kicks in. I believe the refs should call the coaches over and let them know they are going to call it closer, so no excuses for continued rough play. I think a lot of this originates from the so-called "no harm, no foul " attitude. A foul is a foul regardless of when or where. sorry for the long rant.

 

[screwduke]

List em.

This year Kansas, Tennessee, and South Carolina have to be up there.

 

[Aike]

There have been a couple travesties in Chapel Hill.

 

[blubo]

laetner game comes to mind.

 

[TeoJ]

To many to even consider,wouldn't know where to start. But I guess I could start start with the semi finals last year and a non 35 second call late in the game.

 

[trinity45]

List em.

This year Kansas, Tennessee, and South Carolina have to be up there.

I did not get to see the second half of the USC game but I will admit there was a 6 to 7 minute span early in the game that was a crappy as I can say I have ever seen for a college game. They called a lot of touch fouls at the Kansas game but we did not do a very good job of staying in front of their guards causing some of the foul problems.

 

[Louis_Skunt]

That game at Tennessee is the worst Ive seen this year.

 

[bucsrule8872]

Duke game in 92 is number one in my book. The "stomp" will always be remembered as the worst missed call in UK history.

 

[Teachable Moe]

To many to even consider,wouldn't know where to start. But I guess I could start start with the semi finals last year and a non 35 second call late in the game.

Really. When the rotten calls spawn 4 rule changes, you're talking some kind of pinnacle of crap officiating.

 

[truebluewildcat]

Back when Billy D and the Gators were the darlings and had their run...The O Dome was usually a pretty tough place to get an evenly officiated game...

there was this one game where gators were ranked pretty high and we were beating them at the half...but in the second half they seemed to get every call and foul which lead them to getting back in the game and eventually winning...it was very obvious as soon as the second half started that things were going to start going florida's way...i believe the foul disparity ended up being fairly significant...and it wasn't just bad calls, it was the timing of the calls...seemed like every time we would get some momentum or a lead there would be a call that just stifled us and interrupted any mojo...