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Reed bailey sea of blue

If we are dreaming:

PG Braden Smith
SG Otega Oweh
SF Richie Saunders
PF Yaxel Landeborg
C Brandon Garrison

PG Acaden Lewis
SG Jasper Johnson
SF Colin Chandler
PF Kam Williams
C Magoon Gwath

G Travis Perry
G Max Green
F Trent Noah
C Malachi Moreno
Move Gwath to starting center and Garrison to backup and I'm down with it. Also I would think Johnson is starting at UK next season regardless.
 
We need two power forwards (at least). I'd love for us to try to both. It'd be amazing if we had five front court guys and a guy like Kam who could fill in for PF as needed.
Bailey is not a good rebounder, and is not the 3pt shooter many on here believe
 
Bailey is not a good rebounder, and is not the 3pt shooter many on here believe
Agreed. But I think he moves really well and passes really well. A heavy cutting and posts passing offense like Pope’s could be a good fit.

My Reed Bailey fact of the night(could be wrong as I did my own research on my phone). Only 3 players this year at 6’9 or taller had more assists per game.

Cooper Flagg, Yaxel L, and Robbie Avila(yes the glasses guy that was a star last year)
 
I would not be happy with that group.
I do want Folgueiras, but he is a PF, not a C. That lineup would have poor rim protection and rebounding.

Bailey at 6’10 only got 6.2 rpg (5.6 per30min) at Davidson vs smaller less athletic players than he would see in SEC.
And while I like the 41% 3pt stat, he only made 17 all season. He was 4-4 in 1 game, the rest of the season he was 13-37 for 35.1%. The 9 game month of Feb he was 1-9. No thanks!
Much more to basketball than a pf shooting 25 ft from the rim
Bailey is athletic and very skilled
 
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Move Gwath to starting center and Garrison to backup and I'm down with it. Also I would think Johnson is starting at UK next season regardless.
I think Garrison starts. You aren’t considering how he has improved and will continue to improve in year two.
 
Bailey is not a good rebounder, and is not the 3pt shooter many on here believe
I'm not as interested in 3 point shooters, as I am in good defenders. I said 3 years ago that Alabama would never win a NC as long as Oates is there. He is all three point offense, with NO defense. It's hard to not have an off night in three point shooting in 6 consecutive games.
 
Oweh and Garrison said they don't know what they are going to do yet. Chandler, Perry and Noah said they are back. Point being we may need several bigs and several guards.
 
There is nothing wrong with his rebounding. Did u watch all of their games and see what they ran and how they used him? I bet not. The kid can play.
I didn't have to, stats don't lie.
Did you watch ALL of their games? Didn't think so.
He averaged 6.1 rpg in 33.3mpg, simple math that is 5.5 per30min. That is NOT good. And at 6'10 & 230 in a low-level mid-major conference, he should be rebounding much better than that. In the SEC, where players are bigger and more athletic than what he has faced, you would have to assume he will rebound even worse if he were to come to UK.

But at least you agree his 3pt shooting is greatly misgauged/overstated.
 
Much more to basketball than a pf shooting 25 ft from the rim
Bailey is athletic and very skilled
I agree that there is much more than shooting 3's. I couldn't agree more.

But many are WANTING him because of his 41% 3pt%. Not being reported is that for the season he was only 17-41, and if you take away just 1 game where was 4-4, he was 13-37 (35%, a lot less attractive, but acceptable). For the 9 games in Feb, he was 1-9, 1 made 3 the whole month. But with just 41 attempts this year, next year he could shoot closer to the 20% he did the year before or in the 40's next year, who knows.
 
I'm not as interested in 3 point shooters, as I am in good defenders. I said 3 years ago that Alabama would never win a NC as long as Oates is there. He is all three point offense, with NO defense. It's hard to not have an off night in three point shooting in 6 consecutive games.
I agree completely about wanting good defenders. That is why Gwath is near the top of my wish list.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I've not heard that Bailey is a good (nor bad) defender, haven't heard anyone mention his defense.
 
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We need some continuity. Garrison is just a Sophomore, but he has a year under his belt in the system. That is critical to our success next season.

Can’t run guys off because they didn’t play like a fifth year Senior their Sophomore year and first year in a new system.

Need Garrison and Oweh back. Need all the underclassmen back.

Then build around them.

I do not expect to get all the guys I listed. I think we will be lucky to get some of the guys we are currently going after.

Some of you are probably going to be really disappointed when guys like Smith never enter the Portal.
 
I agree that there is much more than shooting 3's. I couldn't agree more.

But many are WANTING him because of his 41% 3pt%. Not being reported is that for the season he was only 17-41, and if you take away just 1 game where was 4-4, he was 13-37 (35%, a lot less attractive, but acceptable). For the 9 games in Feb, he was 1-9, 1 made 3 the whole month. But with just 41 attempts this year, next year he could shoot closer to the 20% he did the year before or in the 40's next year, who knows.
I don't think it matters why or who our fans want really lol. That dude is an athletic 6'11" of that is in the mold of Grant Nelson. If anyone doesn't want that their priorities are in the wrong spot.
MOst of our fans look at scoring, I think you would agree with that. Scoring comes from being good on defense a lot of times
 
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I don't think it matters why or who our fans want really lol. That dude is an athletic 6'11" of that is in the mold of Grant Nelson. If anyone doesn't want that their priorities are in the wrong spot.
MOst of our fans look at scoring, I think you would agree with that. Scoring comes from being good on defense a lot of times
A LOT of scorers are not good defenders.
I look more at efficiency in scoring than ppg. I think volume scorers are actually bad for a team. Not saying Bailey is one. But also, even the worst teams with no UK-quality players have leading scorers. Again not saying that is the case with Bailey. I’m not saying I wouldn’t take Bailey (I would as the backup), but that I like Folgueiras better (or someone who can add a second component in addition to the scoring, whether that be a good rebounder, a good defender, or a good 3pt shooter) to start.
 
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A LOT of scorers are not good defenders.
I look more at efficiency in scoring than ppg. I think volume scorers are actually bad for a team. Not saying Bailey is one. But also, even the worst teams with no UK-quality players have leading scorers. Again not saying that is the case with Bailey. I’m not saying I wouldn’t take Bailey (I would as the backup), but that I like Folgueiras better (or someone who can add a second component in addition to the scoring, whether that be a good rebounder, a good defender, or a good 3pt shooter) to start.
I didn't say anything about individual defense. Being a good defensive team leads to scoring
Folgueiras is a center. He doesn't move the same as Bailey. I can't even see them really in comparison with each other
 
We need some continuity. Garrison is just a Sophomore, but he has a year under his belt in the system. That is critical to our success next season.

Can’t run guys off because they didn’t play like a fifth year Senior their Sophomore year and first year in a new system.

Need Garrison and Oweh back. Need all the underclassmen back.

Then build around them.

I do not expect to get all the guys I listed. I think we will be lucky to get some of the guys we are currently going after.

Some of you are probably going to be really disappointed when guys like Smith never enter the Portal.
Exactly, if we were in this style system now everyone on here would have wanted us to dump Eric Daniels, Nazr Muhammad, Scott Padgett, Cameron Mills, and many more valuable players later in their careers.
 
I'm not as interested in 3 point shooters, as I am in good defenders. I said 3 years ago that Alabama would never win a NC as long as Oates is there. He is all three point offense, with NO defense. It's hard to not have an off night in three point shooting in 6 consecutive games.

Yes he has improved but he does not rebound or block shots
Gwath appears to at least attempt to block shots

I'd take Gwath at PF over Bailey... neither are thick bodied guys and are more stretch post men, but Gwath gives you extra length/shot blocking on the defensive end as both a primary and help defender.

Then pair Gwath with a thicker C... Garrison and another thicker/athletic rebounding PF/C type body to provide the muscle in the post.

Plus, that would be a great recruiting angle for Gwath... expand/develop your game, and that helps our team over the next year or two, and long term, it also increases your NBA potential (short and long term).
 
We need some continuity. Garrison is just a Sophomore, but he has a year under his belt in the system. That is critical to our success next season.

Can’t run guys off because they didn’t play like a fifth year Senior their Sophomore year and first year in a new system.

Need Garrison and Oweh back. Need all the underclassmen back.

Then build around them.

I do not expect to get all the guys I listed. I think we will be lucky to get some of the guys we are currently going after.

Some of you are probably going to be really disappointed when guys like Smith never enter the Portal.
Some think Oweh could be NBA bound. Probably explains the push for Demary as the two.
 
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