Reds

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

$23 million in deferrals with this contract after a signing a 1-year deal for 2024 with deferred money.

Dodgers To Re-Sign Teoscar Hernandez

The Dodgers are bringing back slugger Teoscar Hernandez. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

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[CalCat57]

If I was Francona I would tell the Reds forget it I'm resigning right now. They flat out lied to him. They said they would upgrade the offense and haven't done shit. If the ownership cannot afford to put the pieces in place to at least compete they should sell the damn team. Because it's obvious the Reds owner is in over his head.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

If I was Francona I would tell the Reds forget it I'm resigning right now. They flat out lied to him. They said they would upgrade the offense and haven't done shit. If the ownership cannot afford to put the pieces in place to at least compete they should sell the damn team. Because it's obvious the Reds owner is in over his head.

My thoughts exactly. Why come back for this headache of a franchise in addition to the shit the Dodgers are doing with these super teams without any restrictions. Reds have enough talent in the farm system to pull off nearly any trade for players they can't afford on the free agent market. Yet still won't come off any of those prospects to help this team in the outfield or on offense after moving India, the team leader in OBP. Top pitching prospects like Lowder, Burns, Petty and multiple infielders with Tyson Lewis, Stewart, Collier, Arroyo, Marte & Stafura among many more in the next tier that could be packaged. Many who claim Lowder, Burns, Collier and Stewart are the 'untouchables' severely limit any players Cincinnati can acquire in a trade. One or two of these players would be a hell of a bargaining chip in a potential trade. Even if they rather stay cheap with the years of team control on Lowder and Burns in the future, trade Lodolo before the window shuts on him.

This organization would rather crowd the rotation with someone like Brady Singer who is not an ace, a solid 4th-5th rotation piece in a good rotation, pursue a joke like Nick Pivetta and call it an offseason. No prospect is a guarantee to be a successful Major League start so trading a few of them before getting exposed at the MLB level like Barrero, Senzel and Marte would make sense. Instead the Reds hoard them like they are all first ballot HOFers and haven't learned a damn thing from past mistakes.

I know it isn't realistic with this franchise, but any FO with a gumption and wants to win now should have sent India to Seattle and unloaded the farm system for Julio Rodriguez and Luis Castillo. Actual difference makers!! To hell with the contracts, teams don't unload top prospects and assume entire contract so that is why the Reds would send a massive haul in prospects for the return with Seattle still eating a large portion of their deals. Rodriguez would mash in Great American Ballpark and boost the outfield. Castillo is proven in GABP with some postseason experience. Reds could easily trade them off and replenish the farm system in the next inevitable fire sale so zero excuses for the laziness, cheap skates and incompetence from the Reds FO.

Dodgers and Mets have changed the game with this horse shit deferred contract approach building super teams. The cheap skate approach by the Castellini's will have them building up half a decade making a run for the NL Wild Card spot with a narrow window to contend in before tearing it all down again. I get other teams including the Reds have had deferred contracts before but this Soto shit and what the Dodgers are doing is ridiculous as hell.

 

[NociHTTP]

Most of the cities that have MLB teams, I've not been to, but the ones I have I'm not surprised that elite players would want to go there. Queens, NY. Boston, MA. Atlanta, GA. Those cities have a lot to present to the best of the best. Cincinnati does not.

 

[kybloo92]

If I was Francona I would tell the Reds forget it I'm resigning right now. They flat out lied to him. They said they would upgrade the offense and haven't done shit. If the ownership cannot afford to put the pieces in place to at least compete they should sell the damn team. Because it's obvious the Reds owner is in over his head.

They are expecting Francona to pull his same magic that he did for years in Cleveland with a team that spent less than Cincinnati while he was there. The Reds don't have a Jose Ramirez and they are sadly mistaken if they think a manager alone is going to fix the Reds without going out to make some additions to the outfield. Even Kansas City spent money last offseason and it paid off getting them to the ALDS. Signed Seth Lugo and Michael Wacha giving their organization two veteran starting pitchers. India this offseason. The small market excuse only goes so far when other teams like the Royals are spending wisely building around a young team with the right veterans.

 

[cole854]

Reds have enough talent in the farm system to pull off nearly any trade for players they can't afford on the free agent market.

Highly doubtful. If it was, then they wouldn't have kept running out the clowns they did in Fraley, Benson, Fairchild, for ex.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Highly doubtful. If it was, then they wouldn't have kept running out the clowns they did in Fraley, Benson, Fairchild, for ex.

The Reds certainly have enough infielders and pitchers to make a deal that improves this team. It's the front office neglecting to do anything that improves the lineup offensively now and piss away another year with this current bunch. Krall talks a big game in the winter meetings about adding hitting in the outfield and doesn't do anything.

Where exactly do the Reds plan on playing all of these infield prospects? Trade some of them for quality outfielders. They are loaded with infielders who are the on the verge of the big leagues within 1-2 years like Stewart, Arroyo, Collier, Cabrera and down the road on Stafura, Lewis and Balcazar. There are even more that I did not even list because it is ridiculous how lopsided they are compared to the few legit OF prospects. Currently, they are going to be blocked by the likes of McLain, CES, Steer, Marte, Candelario and EDLC. Granted, the Reds are going to trade some of these guys in the future, they will get a return back that will further create a logjam with the incoming prospects from a new organization on top of all of the one previously mentioned.

Also, Cincinnati has taken multiple starting pitchers in recent drafts who they should consider moving some before it is too late like it became for Christian Roa and Bryce Hubbart with Roa pitching his way out of the organization because he got exposed for a joke. Hubbart gives up way too many walks still over the course of 3 years in the Reds system. Neither one has improved and steadily gotten worse each season in the minors. For the newcomers, sell high on their potential of a few before anyone can claim they are a bust and get complacent being stuck in the minors forever.

In a rotation with Greene, Lodolo, Abbott, Singer, Lowder & Martinez. Even when Martinez being older is out of the picture and another pitcher, possibly Singer who can leave after 2026. Chase Petty and Chase Burns are not far off. Some of those recently drafted pitchers from college with Ty Floyd, Hunter Hollan, Luke Holman, Luke Hayden and Tristan Smith who aren't far from MLB would be solid trade chips to use for a team looking to rebuild faster that needs pitching and the Reds should include a couple in potential trades. There are only 5 rotation spots to go around. Not enough room for all of these infielders and every single pitcher to keep being hoarded as this franchise does. Cincinnati needs to identify the ones that can help the Reds in the future or can be packaged in a trade. Would the Reds have been better off trading Phillips prior to 2024 before being sent back down to Rookie Ball this season after his first half struggles? He was better in the 2nd half in Louisville, but still unproven in MLB and there is no rotation spot for him. Any team is going to be concerned by his history with the 2024 1st half. Gave up 8 runs in one start in the AZFL. Like I said, you can wait too long on some of these prospects before their trade value plummets.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Unreal

Dodgers Reportedly Sign Hyeseong Kim in Shocking $22 Million Move

The Los Angeles Dodgers and Korean infielder Hyeseong Kim have reached agreement on a three-year deal, per multiple reports.

dodgersnation.com

 

[KY_Kid]

Unreal

Dodgers Reportedly Sign Hyeseong Kim in Shocking $22 Million Move

The Los Angeles Dodgers and Korean infielder Hyeseong Kim have reached agreement on a three-year deal, per multiple reports.

dodgersnation.com

Man, that confused me when I first saw it today. This player is not Ha-Seong Kim of the Padres. This Hyeseong Kim is coming straight over from Korea. Nevertheless, he's still a nice signing for the Dodgers.

Ha-Seong Kim (of the Padres) is still a free agent.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Man, that confused me when I first saw it today. This player is not Ha-Seong Kim of the Padres. This Hyeseong Kim is coming straight over from Korea. Nevertheless, he's still a nice signing for the Dodgers.

Ha-Seong Kim (of the Padres) is still a free agent.

I wasn't confused. I read the article I posted that stated this is the import from Korea and been following his free agency. I am also aware that Ha-Seong Kim is still a FA.

 

[KY_Kid]

I wasn't confused. I read the article I posted that stated this is the import from Korea and been following his free agency. I am also aware that Ha-Seong Kim is still a FA.

Yeah, I didn't know if you were confused or not, but I sure was when my wife told me Ha-Seong Kim signed with the Dodgers lol. Then, I looked at the details and saw the amount and knew something was up. I didn't mean to imply you were confused, just that I was and posting for any others that might get confused too. I'm sure other Kim will just sign with the Yankees or something.

Like you, I wish the Reds would have make a run at a couple bats (especially in the OF). The rotation is pretty slick. But it's s really clear that ownership isn't interested though. With the expanded playoffs, there's no reason they shouldn't be trying to compete for a playoff berth. It's hard to believe it's been 30 years since they won a playoff series. That's sad.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Yeah, I didn't know if you were confused or not, but I sure was when my wife told me Ha-Seong Kim signed with the Dodgers lol. Then, I looked at the details and saw the amount and knew something was up. I didn't mean to imply you were confused, just that I was and posting for any others that might get confused too. I'm sure other Kim will just sign with the Yankees or something.

Like you, I wish the Reds would have make a run at a couple bats (especially in the OF). The rotation is pretty slick. But it's s really clear that ownership isn't interested though. With the expanded playoffs, there's no reason they shouldn't be trying to compete for a playoff berth. It's hard to believe it's been 30 years since they won a playoff series. That's sad.

I really didn't intend for that post off like an asshole and apologize as bad as it read stating my understanding of Ha-Seong & Hyeseong. It is just frustrating to see the Dodgers continuing to spend money upgrading their team with the next tier of FA's too while Hernandez, Ohtani & Snell are all deferred. A contract that could be worth up to $22 million in the end on top of the posting fee to get him. Absolutely hate it and unfortunately don't see it ending as this is what the players bargained for in the last CBA.

Even more frustrating when Cincinnati hasn't done one thing to improve the offense. If I had a dollar every time the Reds showed interest in a player, could buy the Reds outright. I agree with you that this rotation is a strength and will only be better if Burns can rise through the ranks like Lowder did in one year. Infield just needs to get healthy and will be fine. I know I've belabored the point forever here, but trade some of the infielders where the pipeline is deeper in, teams always can use pitchers and package them in a trade for some outfielders. Been trying to get quality outfielders since Winker & Castellanos left. Ridiculous.

The Yankees is who I have seen the Padres infielder Kim linked too also. One of their insiders says New York most definitely is not finished upgrading their infield. They did not even offer Gleyber Torres a contract, so they clearly are going another direction. Would love to send some of the Reds infield prospects for their big time OF prospect Jasson Dominguez though it appears they finally have room for him to start now with Soto gone. Spencer Jones & Everson Pereira would be intriguing. A week ago, it appeared Kim was in the mix for Detroit before signing Torres.

 

[KY_Kid]

I really didn't intend for that post off like an asshole and apologize as bad as it read stating my understanding of Ha-Seong & Hyeseong. It is just frustrating to see the Dodgers continuing to spend money upgrading their team with the next tier of FA's too while Hernandez, Ohtani & Snell are all deferred. A contract that could be worth up to $22 million in the end on top of the posting fee to get him. Absolutely hate it and unfortunately don't see it ending as this is what the players bargained for in the last CBA.

Even more frustrating when Cincinnati hasn't done one thing to improve the offense. If I had a dollar every time the Reds showed interest in a player, could buy the Reds outright. I agree with you that this rotation is a strength and will only be better if Burns can rise through the ranks like Lowder did in one year. Infield just needs to get healthy and will be fine. I know I've belabored the point forever here, but trade some of the infielders where the pipeline is deeper in, teams always can use pitchers and package them in a trade for some outfielders. Been trying to get quality outfielders since Winker & Castellanos left. Ridiculous.

The Yankees is who I have seen the Padres infielder Kim linked too also. One of their insiders says New York most definitely is not finished upgrading their infield. They did not even offer Gleyber Torres a contract, so they clearly are going another direction. Would love to send some of the Reds infield prospects for their big time OF prospect Jasson Dominguez though it appears they finally have room for him to start now with Soto gone. Spencer Jones & Everson Pereira would be intriguing. A week ago, it appeared Kim was in the mix for Detroit before signing Torres.

No sweat at all. I didn't want you to think I was being a jerk haha

You're right though. The middle infield is locked down with Elly and McClain. Flip some of those infielders or infield prospects (Marte, Arroyo, Stewart, etc.) for someone who can help. Or shoot, just spend $60-$80M and lock down a quality veteran bat. I wouldn't even be mad if they overpaid a little to sign old man JD Martinez to hit and be a clubhouse influence.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

No sweat at all. I didn't want you to think I was being a jerk haha

You're right though. The middle infield is locked down with Elly and McClain. Flip some of those infielders or infield prospects (Marte, Arroyo, Stewart, etc.) for someone who can help. Or shoot, just spend $60-$80M and lock down a quality veteran bat. Shoot, I wouldn't be mad if they overpaid a little to sign old man JD Martinez to hit and be a clubhouse influence.

The Reds definitely need to spend more to have any chance at being a regular contender. Martinez is a good one that I wanted here for the last couple of years. A year removed from hitting 33 HRs, 103 RBIs. His veteran presence, play some RF/DH and have a bounce back season would be so much better than running out Fairchild and Benson regularly. A team like Colorado would really benefit from Cincinnati in a trade from the Reds infield prospects. I would be comfortable moving those you mentioned with Marte, Arroyo and Stewart in potential trades. Rockies infield needs an overhaul. Tovar is a great young SS, Farmer is old and the rest with Toglia and McMahon are 20+ HR hitters who are benefiting from the altitude at Coor's Field. Send the Reds Brenton Doyle with his speed and power. Lane Thomas was rumored to be a Reds trade target and could offer similar production to Doyle.

 

[trueblujr2]

The Reds definitely need to spend more to have any chance at being a regular contender. Martinez is a good one that I wanted here for the last couple of years. A year removed from hitting 33 HRs, 103 RBIs. His veteran presence, play some RF/DH and have a bounce back season would be so much better than running out Fairchild and Benson regularly. A team like Colorado would really benefit from Cincinnati in a trade from the Reds infield prospects. I would be comfortable moving those you mentioned with Marte, Arroyo and Stewart in potential trades. Rockies infield needs an overhaul. Tovar is a great young SS, Farmer is old and the rest with Toglia and McMahon are 20+ HR hitters who are benefiting from the altitude at Coor's Field. Send the Reds Brenton Doyle with his speed and power. Lane Thomas was rumored to be a Reds trade target and could offer similar production to Doyle.

I think they need to hold into Arroyo because I can’t see them signing EDLC to anything long term. In a couple more years he’s going to be unaffordable for them and wind up on a big market club.