My grandfather is old enough to remember when the NCAA banned athletics scholarships, because they said that receiving an athletics scholarship meant you were no longer an amateur.
Times change.
Ray Davis MIGHT Play in Gator Bowl
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Times change.
I’m not talking about Davis specifically, more a comment about opting out of bowl games in general.
No idea about Davis’s specifics. I hope he plays.
The set number of games is the season, bowl games include the season. You nor anyone else know the terms of his NIL that’s why we are speculating about it. He shouldn’t have to be paid more for the thing he set out at the beginning of the season to do, make a bowl game.
You would need to read the contract to find out. I can see a contract only covering the regular season.
I know legally all NIL deals are guaranteed and not dependent upon number of games played or any other performance based thing.
Why are you speculating out of thin air with nothing of substance to back this speculation? Where are you getting he wants more money to play a bowl game? Surely y’all have something to back this up with.
Considering he was gonna sit out and now there are reports he’s negotiating to play. That sounds like more money to us.
Any enforceable contract must have some "binding consideration," governing each party's conduct, work, trade etc.
"There are no set number of games and it isn't performance based," is damn near eliminating any binding consideration from the athlete.
I would assume that if I did an NIL deal with any UK Athlete, that at a minimum, being enrolled at UK, and an active member of the sport's team would be required to receive a periodic payment, such as a monthly payment.
I seriously think this reconsideration is based upon a tad better bowl than he anticipated, and maybe upon re-reading a contract to which we are not privy.
As to the speculation, one-way-or-another, as to whether post-season availability is required, who knows, without seeing the document.
What reports? Where are these reports? The “reports” I see is one random Cats Illustrated poster who tossed it out there with nothing to back it up with?
When have you seen a player endorse anything besides on a billboard. They are paid to play. They don’t want a contract that says that.
the father of a UK FB player that i know told me his son gets a monthly NIL payment
Some have made TV. Some require personal appearences. Leary's pays him monthly.
I suspect there is a variety. If I provided the money, I would want to make sure the endorsement did not become a joke. Any sponsor failing to spread payments out and requiring at a minimum, availability for the team and admission to school is asking to have a billboard that draws laughter.
And I'm sure that some have been burned, but they will get smarter the next time out!!
Contracts can, and often do, define their own "essence."
"The parties, hereto, agree that the essence of this contract is the positive publicity generated by The Athlete's participation in football at the University of Kentucky, and that the use of his name, image and likeness by Sponsor is beneficial to Sponsor, only so long as The Athlete is enrolled at the University of Kentucky, and also eligible and available for participation in the Football program. Should the Athlete enroll in another University, or otherwise become ineligible or unavailable for participation in the Football program, further payments shall cease, immediately, unless said unavailabilty is caused by injury or illness. Said eiligibility and availability shall extend to any post-season games, play off games, and/or bowl games involving the University of Kentucky."
Just thinking out loud. Limiting and enforceable language is not rocket science, and is pretty easy to define.
we are in the infancy of NIL
it will level out for all parties involved
Imagine paying people money who fill 60K-100K seat stadiums with paying customers. Its a shame when when the elite don’t get all the money and the help gets a fraction.
In most states, including Kentucky, you can’t include any language that ties the deal to a specific school or ties the deal to participation with a school’s sports team.
The way most deals attempt to get around that challenge is to specify that the activities for which the athlete will be paid (e.g., public appearances, filming of social media posts) must be performed in a specific geographic location. This location is invariably the city in which the school is located.
Collectives can use that approach to reduce the risk of paying players who end up transferring, but dealing with bowl game opt outs is trickier.
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I bet these restrictions won't last.
Hell, what value is there to the NIL of an athlete if totally divorced from the sport?
To me if it's just money, id rather him just not play. Either way he needs to make a decision before bowl prep begins, so coaches know what they're working with
He did, then Stoops said all 3 RBs may play in the bowl game. A Cats Illustrated poster took that and made up a rumor about him wanting money, and per usual others took the opportunity to slander the guy based off of a message board poster with no credibility.
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One….. that was a national campaign and they selected 5 players I believe. No one besides people in Ky knew Who the heck it was. I’m sure he generated AT&T about 10 million with his brand. Lol
Maybe in Lexington. Not where I live. Point is athletes advertisement value is very low. Most people don’t follow college sports. Even those that do wouldn’t recognize a player walking down the street. The high court said they can make money off their NIL. You can’t believe that’s what boosters are paying for right? The 15 club gonna market them. It’s pay for play and very little else.
