I mean Pruitt just matched Stoops 5-3 record from year 6 in year 2. Imagine where we’ll be in year 6.
Ranking the overall strength of SEC East programs
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I said fans of UT's 'rivals' visit the site, and 'rivals' is quicker to type than individually typing each of UT's rivals, and I consider UK one of UT's rivals. It really shouldn't have been that hard for you to figure out, unless, of course, you don't believe there is a UT-UK rivalry.
But you did list the teams of fans posting on your site and left UK out. And it was in response to me seeing you don't see UK fans posting on your board. Apparently that was too hard for you to figure out. Did I mention your reading comprehension sucks. You just keep proving my point
I think the series has been fairly competitive since the Brooks era at UK. UK took a step back under Joker, and it took Stoops a few years to change the culture, same as Pruitt has had to do following Butch's and Dooley's tenures, but there is no denying Stoops has completely changed the culture in Lexington. I think Pruitt has UT on the right trajectory as well. Maybe one day in the near future the UT-UK game will decide which of the 2 goes to Atlanta.
No offense, but maybe you need to check your own reading comprehension skills.
After stating UT's rivals visit the board I then clearly stated the 3 rivals that unfortunately UT has no good arguments against right now since those 3 have winning streaks against UT right now. So while I consider UK a rival, obviously they are not in the same category as those other 3 since UT has the current winning streak against UK.
Is that clear enough?
You responded to my message about UK fans not being on your board with that. Which had nothing to do with UK fans. Clear enough. In just going to put you it fans on ignore. It's clear you can't comprehend anything and try to twist everything to your liking but aren't smart enough to do it. Welcome to ignore.
It's probably a good move on your part since you seem to get triggered rather easily.
I agree. The Joker era did set us back from what Brooks started, but we were thin under Brooks. I think we all wanted Joker to succeed because he was a “native son”. I felt bad for him. (Think of Matt Millen At Detroit)
Good thing Wayne Gretzky didn’t coach at Edmonton.
LOL. Yeah, I agree. I am pretty sure that is why Peyton has resisted calls for him to return to coach at UT. He understands how easily fans will turn on their own favorite sons if they aren't winning enough.
KY's non conference schedule is generally not great. But, UL has had a decent to good team for some time (save for two years ago). So, there are not always four stiffs (though no one is going to mistake UL for Oklahoma or Oregon).
You are taking some liberties with UT's schedule. BYU last year isn't exactly a world beater. It's not as if UT plays a powerhouse every year.
With that said, I give UT credit for generally playing a good schedule for decades now. UT has always been an SEC program that is willing to play national home and home games (UCLA, Notre Dame, Oregon, etc)
Thank you for your response and I agree with everything you said. BYU, however, is not a national powerhouse (still won it all in the mid 1980s) but is a recognizable and formidable opponent. Lost in all of the noise is that also beat Southern Cal last year and was a bowl eligible team.
I think ky should begin to play the upper echelons of football now. I think they could compete and even win one or two against the likes of Ohio State or Penn st or Oregon, etc. It could only help their status on the national scene and even more in the recruiting world b/c the great athletes want to play against the best..
Puke Orange schedules...
2010...UTM-OREGON-UAB-MEMPHIS
2011...Montana- UC- Buffalo- MT
2012...NCST- GAST- Akron- Troy
2013...AP-WKU- OREGON- SO ALA
2014...UTAH ST- ARK ST- OKLA- CHATTANOOGA
2015...BG- OKLA- W.CAROLINA- NO TEXAS
2016...APPY ST- VATech- Ohio- Tenn Tech
2017...GaT- lnd st- UMass- So Miss
2018...WVA...ETSU- UTEP- CHARLOTTE
2019...GAST- BYU- CHATTANOOGA- UAB
2020...CHARLOTTE- OKLA- FURMAN- TROY
To do what you are advocating would require UK to drop U6 from its schedule every year and that's not happening! They are our rival and P5 school and you just rotate your P5 opponent around. Would l like to do that? Yes sir, but it's not happening! U6 has had some very good teams that would compare with most on your list of OOC p5 schools. Not nearly the OOC differential in SOS as you would like to make it out to be! Try something else.
Have to disagree with you on the ooc sos. Except for a couple of years , 4 if I counted correctly (11, 12, 17 and last year) we played at least a top 15 team and 5 top ten schools during that time. Even Cinci and NC State were considered very good opponents at the time, coming off very good seasons the year before (nc state beat # 3 fla state that same year) so I think - my opinion- is that our ooc has been vastly harder than yours. Truth is Louisville has been sporadic at best in the last 10 - 11 years, very good w/ Lamar but not so much after that except for one season .
Beat Penn St a couple years ago. VaTech was a scrappy win last year. Bowl games but still solid wins OOC.
Like I said... we have one OOC p5 school on our schedule and UK in NOT going to drop that series to do what UT does. Schedules are very comparable.
You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that but I gave actual numbers of teams ranked in the ooc schedule for us - 7out of 11 years we have played or will play a ranked ooc opponent. I'm curious to see how many ooc ranked opponents have ky played during that time- and you can't count bowl games b/c they were not scheduled years in advance. I would really like to know since our ooc schedules are comparable.
Would depend on how many times U6 was ranked . Again , that's who we play. Looks like 6/7 times.
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Joker wasn't the big setback everyone thinks he was, ten years of absolute neglect of the football program was the reason, NOTHING above the bare minimum for football for ten years. In 2010 when Joker took over he had TWO four stars playing an SEC schedule where seven of the eight SEC opponents (no Vandy) AVERAGED 38 four star commits the previous four years. His recruiting budget was about the same as BBs budget for Midnight Madness (their recruiting tool, PLUS another regular $500,000, for LESS than one sixth the players), about $300,000, while Thug U's recruiting budget for football was over a million dollars. I read one article that said Thug U's budget for football recruiting was more than it was for ALL their other sports, while mitch spent football's money in pursuit of his all sports trophy. And how close did we get there, lol.
In 2010 UK football was barely bowl eligible, and they lost the bowl game when SOMEONE (Joker took the fall, lol) declared his second string All SEC QB ineligible for DRINKING, leaving a backup that threw SEVEN passes all year as the only QB. And I think Joker lost a lot of the team's support for taking the credit (blame) for that stupid move.
That year with a mediocre team UK football cleared $18,000,000 while the best basketball program in the nation cleared a little over $5,000,000. UK basketball almost always led the nation (or it did, Syracuse's huge arena led a couple of years) in attendance and there isn't anything about UK basketball that isn't absolutely top notch, had to allow some regular students in their Taj Mahal dormitory before the NCAA made it legal. Football, too much SEC FOOTBALL money given away to worry about money now, that and losing MORE than FIFTEEN THOUSAND season ticket holders woke up someone at UK------I'm still not sure who, lol.
But sorry, Thug U fans, someone got the message, and now we have the money AND the coaches..
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I would like to see those 6/7 years. NAME THOSE YEARS where Louisville was ranked when you played them, or even , giving you some leeway here, where they were ranked preseason ( before the first game was played). I'd be surprised if it was even 4 times, and I know they wouldn't be top ten ranked- like 5 of our opponents.
I actually did look it up. According to the AP poll, louisville was preseason ranked 5 times from 2010 to present- all top 25 and no higher than 14. When you actually played them ( as the season went along), they were ranked 3 times , no higher than 15. Now, you may think that is comparable to UT's "highest ranked ooc opponent" during that time but I beg to differ.
Are Tennessee fans still bragging about their OOC SOS after backing out against UNC?? And playing Buffalo instead lol
Well they did have Bridgewater with jurich cheating like crazy and checking all the arrest records for transfers and them some other QB that was just the NFL"S MVP,
Not bragging just stating the facts- and this is comparing UT's ooc and uk's ooc not nc's but I am interested in how strong the tar heels ooc schedule has been the last 10 years; outside of playing South Carolina who have you played? I honestly don't know b/c no one thinks of unc and football in the same breath. Lastly, would you let go of us dropping unc, I mean really that was 3 ads and administrations later.
Good grief dude, you are pathetic!! Please slow down and listen !!! Our out OOC schedules are comparable whether you want to admit it or not. We schedule U6 EVERY YEAR as a P5 ooc team. That is not going to change in the foreseeable future . I told you l would like to see that change, but it's not happening and l don't want MB to be stupid enough to schedule someone like Okla to go along with U6 . It not only dosen't make sense from a financial standpoint, but is crazy for a program on the cusp of taking that next step as a program. You fail to mention , or give credit, that the last two bowl games we've beaten PSU and VaT in bowl games. You tout playing UC, VaT, NCst , Oregon as being that much bigger than us playing U6...really? I'll give you Okla, but the rest you cant be serious! You are getting zero sympathy here.
And yet you are here hanging on puke orange being a top tier program 25 years ago!!
Let's first be honest Pruitt took over a much much more talented roster than Stoops did.
Stoops built from about as low to the bottom as you can get.
Stoops was also learning along the way, he has taken his hits, but he is a guy who doesn't go down but punches back.
Ehhh idk. I mean it was 4-8 team with zero SEC wins. Lots of Pruitts guys have had to step in and fill in because Butch left nothing behind. He also imploded the recruiting class. Was calling recruits and telling them to go elsewhere. Dude should be banned from working in the NCAA for that alone.
Go back and look, not saying UT was loaded. But Stoops took over a team of MAC guys, and some weren't that good.
